Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject: A new low for LG
Please stick to your guns people. Some of the posters here need to take a break and check themselves. I am very openminded and love seeing different points of view but lately garbage has been all over this site. Its like FickleGround.net and it's getting old. I have long supported this team and many of it's outcast players like Odom and Vlad. The hate on them I can handle only because of the struggles they have gone through on this team. BUT KOBE????????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME????? The dude's a warrior whos been through injury hell and back! Ya he's not himself and he's trying to much but would you rather him sit like Lebron for a hangnail??? He is playing through his struggles and giving his heart to this team and his teamates! In a month or two im sure we will all be talking about him being the greatest and rightly so. We will also be talking about how underrated Odom is and how far this team has come. Please dont bite the hand that feeds you. This team would be nothing without Kobe. We all want to win now but give peace a chance and we will still emerge as a contender. It's the Holidays!!! Lets have some fun and celebrate the players we have on this team! Be positive every once in a while!!! GO LAKERS! _________________ Romans 1:16
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:00 pm Post subject:
here we go again. i dont know whats worse, all the complainers on this board or the people who complain about all the complainers with their holier than thou attitude
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: A new low for LG
Kareem of the Crop wrote:
Please stick to your guns people. Some of the posters here need to take a break and check themselves. I am very openminded and love seeing different points of view but lately garbage has been all over this site. Its like FickleGround.net and it's getting old. I have long supported this team and many of it's outcast players like Odom and Vlad. The hate on them I can handle only because of the struggles they have gone through on this team. BUT KOBE????????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME????? The dude's a warrior whos been through injury hell and back! Ya he's not himself and he's trying to much but would you rather him sit like Lebron for a hangnail??? He is playing through his struggles and giving his heart to this team and his teamates! In a month or two im sure we will all be talking about him being the greatest and rightly so. We will also be talking about how underrated Odom is and how far this team has come. Please dont bite the hand that feeds you. This team would be nothing without Kobe. We all want to win now but give peace a chance and we will still emerge as a contender. It's the Holidays!!! Lets have some fun and celebrate the players we have on this team! Be positive every once in a while!!! GO LAKERS!
Joined: 14 Aug 2002 Posts: 2940 Location: Los Angeles
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject:
TheJellosJigglin' wrote:
Kareem of the Crop wrote:
We all want to win now but give peace a chance and we will still emerge as a contender. It's the Holidays!!! Lets have some fun and celebrate the players we have on this team! Be positive every once in a while!!! GO LAKERS!
I'm with you, buddy
ok, i changed my mind from my previous post. im down with havin some peace and love. im with you too.
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: A new low for LG
Kareem of the Crop wrote:
Please stick to your guns people. Some of the posters here need to take a break and check themselves. I am very openminded and love seeing different points of view but lately garbage has been all over this site. Its like FickleGround.net and it's getting old. I have long supported this team and many of it's outcast players like Odom and Vlad. The hate on them I can handle only because of the struggles they have gone through on this team. BUT KOBE????????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME????? The dude's a warrior whos been through injury hell and back! Ya he's not himself and he's trying to much but would you rather him sit like Lebron for a hangnail??? He is playing through his struggles and giving his heart to this team and his teamates! In a month or two im sure we will all be talking about him being the greatest and rightly so. We will also be talking about how underrated Odom is and how far this team has come. Please dont bite the hand that feeds you. This team would be nothing without Kobe. We all want to win now but give peace a chance and we will still emerge as a contender. It's the Holidays!!! Lets have some fun and celebrate the players we have on this team! Be positive every once in a while!!! GO LAKERS!
This is getting pretty bad...I've been lurking on LG since 01 and its as bad as I've ever seen. Lakers Fam gotta quit hating on each other and start cheering together...come on guys. Seriously, since that JD guy lost his privileges, trolls have really been running rampant.
BTW, is this KOBE 2.0 the same guy who during the 04-05 season was writing the strangest post and who everyone kept clowning on?
Joined: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 33474 Location: Long Beach, California
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:42 pm Post subject:
My suggestion to everyone would be to start copying "troll" posts and PMing them to Mods asking them to take action. Since I am not a Mod, I don't know who has or who hasn't, but my guess is people have not been doing that and I would see it as a necessary step to limit the things Janggoon8 is talking about. We all should take personal responsibility for doing our part in keeping this site the way we would all like it to be... one thing to complain in a random thread, another thing to take more direct action. I myself have not PM'd mods with these kind of things, so am guilty like many others, but I will begin to. _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
"Its Ok to yell at Odom and Vlad but not the Lord and Savior known as Kobe Bryant."
Complete joke and new low indeed.
4real when everyone else not named Bryant is playing bad, its ok to chew them up, but when Kobe plays bad, we should all look the other way and pad him on his back, and pretend it's the 02-03 season again. Oh I get it. _________________ My Dream Starting 5 next Season
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: A new low for LG
TheJellosJigglin' wrote:
Kareem of the Crop wrote:
Please stick to your guns people. Some of the posters here need to take a break and check themselves. I am very openminded and love seeing different points of view but lately garbage has been all over this site. Its like FickleGround.net and it's getting old. I have long supported this team and many of it's outcast players like Odom and Vlad. The hate on them I can handle only because of the struggles they have gone through on this team. BUT KOBE????????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME????? The dude's a warrior whos been through injury hell and back! Ya he's not himself and he's trying to much but would you rather him sit like Lebron for a hangnail??? He is playing through his struggles and giving his heart to this team and his teamates! In a month or two im sure we will all be talking about him being the greatest and rightly so. We will also be talking about how underrated Odom is and how far this team has come. Please dont bite the hand that feeds you. This team would be nothing without Kobe. We all want to win now but give peace a chance and we will still emerge as a contender. It's the Holidays!!! Lets have some fun and celebrate the players we have on this team! Be positive every once in a while!!! GO LAKERS!
I'm with you, buddy
thats makes it at least three of us: it's already a crowd
"Its Ok to yell at Odom and Vlad but not the Lord and Savior known as Kobe Bryant."
Complete joke and new low indeed.
4real when everyone else not named Bryant is playing bad, its ok to chew them up, but when Kobe plays bad, we should all look the other way and pad him on his back, and pretend it's the 02-03 season again. Oh I get it.
I think the OP is trying to point out that Bryant is injured, and that doesn't seem to compute with so many of the folks here that will turn on him because he isn't playing up to his game. Keep in mind he is in fact playing, when he could be warming the bench like LeBron did.
"Its Ok to yell at Odom and Vlad but not the Lord and Savior known as Kobe Bryant."
Complete joke and new low indeed.
4real when everyone else not named Bryant is playing bad, its ok to chew them up, but when Kobe plays bad, we should all look the other way and pad him on his back, and pretend it's the 02-03 season again. Oh I get it.
First of all, as bad as Kobe is playing he still is having significant positive impact on game just with his presence. You can't say that about anyone else when they play bad. Second of all, Kobe has earned a pass with a decade of godly play. Third, Kobe is injured...and a pretty incapacitating injury at that. Most guys would be out a good amount of time with a groin injury. Yet he is still on the floor helping us get much needed wins. The others were fully healthy and still playing like pansies. _________________ Kobe Bryant has brought the Lakers three championships, 4 Finals, carried an absolutely pathetic team to the playoffs in a loaded Western Conference and has given us countless thrills and memories. If you are not a Kobe fan, then you are not a Laker fan.
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:47 pm Post subject:
There are 2 or 3 specific posters in here that go out of their way with pure negativity and absolutely no posts on something positive. They stay quiet when something positive happens, even on game threads. Those are the ones mods should keep their eyes on. They start thread after thread whining and complaining and putting down the team, players and coach.
But not being able to dis Kobe cause he's a warrior? C'mon, his play is ridiculous. When you're 6-26 from the field, when do you stop shooting? If you're hurt, don't jack up brick after brick, do something else to help the team. Specially Kobe, he should use the attention he draws to give it to the open guy. He hardly ever passes it to Bynum, when that would only open things up for him. Kobe needs to be smarter.
There are 2 or 3 specific posters in here that go out of their way with pure negativity and absolutely no posts on something positive. They stay quiet when something positive happens, even on game threads. Those are the ones mods should keep their eyes on. They start thread after thread whining and complaining and putting down the team, players and coach.
But not being able to dis Kobe cause he's a warrior? C'mon, his play is ridiculous. When you're 6-26 from the field, when do you stop shooting? If you're hurt, don't jack up brick after brick, do something else to help the team. Specially Kobe, he should use the attention he draws to give it to the open guy. He hardly ever passes it to Bynum, when that would only open things up for him. Kobe needs to be smarter.
Credibility drained. He passes it to Bynum more than anyone on the etam ther than maybe Farmar. _________________ Kobe Bryant has brought the Lakers three championships, 4 Finals, carried an absolutely pathetic team to the playoffs in a loaded Western Conference and has given us countless thrills and memories. If you are not a Kobe fan, then you are not a Laker fan.
"Its Ok to yell at Odom and Vlad but not the Lord and Savior known as Kobe Bryant."
Complete joke and new low indeed.
4real when everyone else not named Bryant is playing bad, its ok to chew them up, but when Kobe plays bad, we should all look the other way and pad him on his back, and pretend it's the 02-03 season again. Oh I get it.
I think the OP is trying to point out that Bryant is injured, and that doesn't seem to compute with so many of the folks here that will turn on him because he isn't playing up to his game. Keep in mind he is in fact playing, when he could be warming the bench like LeBron did.
And I agree. This is a good topic.
How many times do I have to say this: If he is injured to the extent that his play is suffering and perhaps exposing himself to further injury, then he should just sit for a few games to heal up to close to 100%.
If he's just playing poorly and taking bad shots and NOT following the game plan that the coaching staff seems to have been stressing the past 3+ games (play inside-out), then YES, we CAN criticize him if we want to.
There really are only two resolutions: either he sits and heals or he stops ignoring the coaches' game plan 1/2 the time. _________________ Bynum in the post:
"Its Ok to yell at Odom and Vlad but not the Lord and Savior known as Kobe Bryant."
Complete joke and new low indeed.
4real when everyone else not named Bryant is playing bad, its ok to chew them up, but when Kobe plays bad, we should all look the other way and pad him on his back, and pretend it's the 02-03 season again. Oh I get it.
I think the OP is trying to point out that Bryant is injured, and that doesn't seem to compute with so many of the folks here that will turn on him because he isn't playing up to his game. Keep in mind he is in fact playing, when he could be warming the bench like LeBron did.
And I agree. This is a good topic.
How many times do I have to say this: If he is injured to the extent that his play is suffering and perhaps exposing himself to further injury, then he should just sit for a few games to heal up to close to 100%.
If he's just playing poorly and taking bad shots and NOT following the game plan that the coaching staff seems to have been stressing the past 3+ games (play inside-out), then YES, we CAN criticize him if we want to.
There really are only two resolutions: either he sits and heals or he stops ignoring the coaches' game plan 1/2 the time.
Should Farmar sit because he doesn't follow the gameplan half the time? Farmar has been taking quite a few bad shots as of late, and he hasn't earned the right to take those shots yet (I can live with Kobe taking some because he has historically made quite a few).
What about Sasha? When's the last time you saw him give a good pass to Bynum?
Kobe is clearly injured right now. Compare his jumper now to what it was last year or the year before. Far less lift, despite Kobe being leaner and in better shape. I would like for him to sit out a game here and there (easy games against teams like Minnesota, Philly, etc. that the Lakers should win regardless). However, I think some people underestimate the impact he makes, even when injured.
Obviously he won't sit out the NY game, since he hasn't played at MSG in two years. However, the following games are difficult, so he needs to play in those if the Lakers have any hope of winning. After that, for all we know his injury will already be feeling better. Lets hope it is, for LG's sake. _________________ Jeffs
I feel like I just watched someone TRULY give 100%. Not the BS I'm-gonna-give-a-110%-just-like-everyone-else-says platitudes, but someone that went until he just....broke. - GT
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