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67ShelbyGT
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the lakers would be contenders without kobe? 
no. they would be with no gasol or bynum or LO though. |
I dont know about w/o Pau. Pau's our #2, theres no question about that. After Kob, he is our only reliable star. I know he only made the allstar game once but hes one of the most skilled bigs in the game. |
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| KINGD wrote: | | koolmo23 wrote: | | THE_SHOES wrote: | | KINGD wrote: | | THE_SHOES wrote: | | KINGD wrote: | | Master)v(ind wrote: | | KINGD wrote: | | THE_SHOES wrote: | Poor Kobe... 23 minutes tonight. Meanwhile Stu with the comedy in the booth...
"This team has so much depth that they don't have to have kobe to win. Kobe can actually enjoy a 5 for 17 night"
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This team doesnt need Kobe?
Its the friggin Nets. No way are the Lakers contenders without Kobe. Though they wouldnt miss LO much |
yes they would. |
the lakers would be contenders without Kobe? |
No need to get mad... On this night Kobe had nothing to do with that win. It's alright though. We all know he'll be back. Don't trip.... |
really?nothing?  |
In fact on several occasions he was in the way...
Ya know, it is probably the first time he was that useless, but I guess there is a first time for everything...
It's cool though because the Mavs are going to be tougher, and what ever was bothering Kobe on this night will go away by Friday I'm sure... |
unreal 12 points 6 rebound 4 ast 1 steal and Kobe useless only on LG |
in only 27 minutes too. kobe struggled but to say he was useless?lol |
LOL u got it he had a bad game shooting but far from useless |
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KINGD
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| 67ShelbyGT wrote: | | KINGD wrote: |
the lakers would be contenders without kobe?
no. they would be with no gasol or bynum or LO though. |
I dont know about w/o Pau. Pau's our #2, theres no question about that. After Kob, he is our only reliable star. I know he only made the allstar game once but hes one of the most skilled bigs in the game. |
i guess it would depend on how bynum played.last year the Lakers were #1 in the West before Bynum went down. |
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BENCH MOB!!!!! Where would be be without them? The first unit was sluggish. The Nets were driving the lane with Pau and Andrew in together. The Bench Mob turned the game around. Looks like if the starters keep it close the Bench Mob will hold on if not increase a lead. I like our depth.
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rofl Fisher -at- Fox
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OOOOOOOOOOhhhhh war of words with DFish vs Rick Fox!
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| 67ShelbyGT wrote: | | KINGD wrote: | | koolmo23 wrote: | | THE_SHOES wrote: | | KINGD wrote: | | THE_SHOES wrote: | | KINGD wrote: | | Master)v(ind wrote: | | KINGD wrote: | | THE_SHOES wrote: | Poor Kobe... 23 minutes tonight. Meanwhile Stu with the comedy in the booth...
"This team has so much depth that they don't have to have kobe to win. Kobe can actually enjoy a 5 for 17 night"
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This team doesnt need Kobe?
Its the friggin Nets. No way are the Lakers contenders without Kobe. Though they wouldnt miss LO much |
yes they would. |
the lakers would be contenders without Kobe? |
No need to get mad... On this night Kobe had nothing to do with that win. It's alright though. We all know he'll be back. Don't trip.... |
really?nothing? |
In fact on several occasions he was in the way...
Ya know, it is probably the first time he was that useless, but I guess there is a first time for everything...
It's cool though because the Mavs are going to be tougher, and what ever was bothering Kobe on this night will go away by Friday I'm sure... |
unreal 12 points 6 rebound 4 ast 1 steal and Kobe useless only on LG |
in only 27 minutes too. kobe struggled but to say he was useless?lol |
Seriously, only in LG. To some its all about scoring only. Ariza only had 7pts but he had 7reb, 4 ast... but thats only stats. Just look at the impact he had. The story of the game is all 12 scoring, moving the ball, 34.5% FG against. No one player (yes Pau shooting was good in 1 half) had much more impact than any other player. |
OH GOD STOP WITH THE QUOTATING THE SAME QUOTE LIKE 81 TIMES IN ONE PAGE!!!
I did the same ooppss |
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| THE_SHOES wrote: | | OOOOOOOOOOhhhhh war of words with DFish vs Rick Fox! |
Rick fired the boys up, i like it!
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67ShelbyGT
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| KINGD wrote: | | 67ShelbyGT wrote: | | KINGD wrote: |
the lakers would be contenders without kobe?
no. they would be with no gasol or bynum or LO though. |
I dont know about w/o Pau. Pau's our #2, theres no question about that. After Kob, he is our only reliable star. I know he only made the allstar game once but hes one of the most skilled bigs in the game. |
i guess it would depend on how bynum played.last year the Lakers were #1 in the West before Bynum went down. |
I know, but we never saw that team in the playoffs. Pau's a legit #2, no one in the Lakers really stepped up consistently that you knew had the exp to be there in playoffs. Pau carried a team before. Sans Boston, he was there when Kobe was getting tripled and stepped up to take pressure off Kobe. |
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KINGD
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| 67ShelbyGT wrote: | | KINGD wrote: | | 67ShelbyGT wrote: | | KINGD wrote: |
the lakers would be contenders without kobe?
no. they would be with no gasol or bynum or LO though. |
I dont know about w/o Pau. Pau's our #2, theres no question about that. After Kob, he is our only reliable star. I know he only made the allstar game once but hes one of the most skilled bigs in the game. |
i guess it would depend on how bynum played.last year the Lakers were #1 in the West before Bynum went down. |
I know, but we never saw that team in the playoffs. Pau's a legit #2, no one in the Lakers really stepped up consistently that you knew had the exp to be there in playoffs. Pau carried a team before. Sans Boston, he was there when Kobe was getting tripled and stepped up to take pressure off Kobe. |
true,true |
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67ShelbyGT
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| jodeke wrote: | | BENCH MOB!!!!! Where would be be without them? The first unit was sluggish. The Nets were driving the lane with Pau and Andrew in together. The Bench Mob turned the game around. Looks like if the starters keep it close the Bench Mob will hold on if not increase a lead. I like our depth. |
Reality is our bench has atleast 2 maybe 4 starter in other teams. And when they are going after 2nd tier players, some that should be in D-League, they can extend leads. Our starters are vets and really need to be coasting a bit to conserve their knees. After ASB you will see the starters get more into it. This is great b/c our bench was exposed for its inexperience. |
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THE_SHOES
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| 67ShelbyGT wrote: | | KINGD wrote: | | 67ShelbyGT wrote: | | KINGD wrote: |
the lakers would be contenders without kobe?
no. they would be with no gasol or bynum or LO though. |
I dont know about w/o Pau. Pau's our #2, theres no question about that. After Kob, he is our only reliable star. I know he only made the allstar game once but hes one of the most skilled bigs in the game. |
i guess it would depend on how bynum played.last year the Lakers were #1 in the West before Bynum went down. |
I know, but we never saw that team in the playoffs. Pau's a legit #2, no one in the Lakers really stepped up consistently that you knew had the exp to be there in playoffs. Pau carried a team before. Sans Boston, he was there when Kobe was getting tripled and stepped up to take pressure off Kobe. |
That Boston series was altered in some areas... So many different things have been said about that series that at this point I have to believe that the same games weren't shown everywhere...
I just don't remember Pau being a scoring force in that series...
Maybe I better go look again...
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| 67ShelbyGT wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | BENCH MOB!!!!! Where would be be without them? The first unit was sluggish. The Nets were driving the lane with Pau and Andrew in together. The Bench Mob turned the game around. Looks like if the starters keep it close the Bench Mob will hold on if not increase a lead. I like our depth. |
Reality is our bench has atleast 2 maybe 4 starter in other teams. And when they are going after 2nd tier players, some that should be in D-League, they can extend leads. Our starters are vets and really need to be coasting a bit to conserve their knees. After ASB you will see the starters get more into it. This is great b/c our bench was exposed for its inexperience. |
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I think there is an agenda on the loose...
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67ShelbyGT
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| THE_SHOES wrote: | | 67ShelbyGT wrote: | | KINGD wrote: | | 67ShelbyGT wrote: | | KINGD wrote: |
the lakers would be contenders without kobe?
no. they would be with no gasol or bynum or LO though. |
I dont know about w/o Pau. Pau's our #2, theres no question about that. After Kob, he is our only reliable star. I know he only made the allstar game once but hes one of the most skilled bigs in the game. |
i guess it would depend on how bynum played.last year the Lakers were #1 in the West before Bynum went down. |
I know, but we never saw that team in the playoffs. Pau's a legit #2, no one in the Lakers really stepped up consistently that you knew had the exp to be there in playoffs. Pau carried a team before. Sans Boston, he was there when Kobe was getting tripled and stepped up to take pressure off Kobe. |
That Boston series was altered in some areas... So many different things have been said about that series that at this point I have to believe that the same games weren't shown everywhere...
I just don't remember Pau being a scoring force in that series...
Maybe I better go look again... |
Shoes, you need learn to read the entire post. Did you miss the "sans boston" part? |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| THE_SHOES wrote: | | 67ShelbyGT wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | BENCH MOB!!!!! Where would be be without them? The first unit was sluggish. The Nets were driving the lane with Pau and Andrew in together. The Bench Mob turned the game around. Looks like if the starters keep it close the Bench Mob will hold on if not increase a lead. I like our depth. |
Reality is our bench has atleast 2 maybe 4 starter in other teams. And when they are going after 2nd tier players, some that should be in D-League, they can extend leads. Our starters are vets and really need to be coasting a bit to conserve their knees. After ASB you will see the starters get more into it. This is great b/c our bench was exposed for its inexperience. |
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I think there is an agenda on the loose... |
Dude, if you got something to say just say it... no need to play the consipiracy card? What is my agenda? Saying that our 2nd team is starter-worthy while other teams' bench has players that are D-League worthy is inaccurate? Be specific. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| 67ShelbyGT wrote: | | THE_SHOES wrote: | | 67ShelbyGT wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | BENCH MOB!!!!! Where would be be without them? The first unit was sluggish. The Nets were driving the lane with Pau and Andrew in together. The Bench Mob turned the game around. Looks like if the starters keep it close the Bench Mob will hold on if not increase a lead. I like our depth. |
Reality is our bench has atleast 2 maybe 4 starter in other teams. And when they are going after 2nd tier players, some that should be in D-League, they can extend leads. Our starters are vets and really need to be coasting a bit to conserve their knees. After ASB you will see the starters get more into it. This is great b/c our bench was exposed for its inexperience. |
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I think there is an agenda on the loose... |
Dude, if you got something to say just say it... no need to play the consipiracy card? What is my agenda? Saying that our 2nd team is starter-worthy while other teams' bench has players that are D-League worthy is inaccurate? Be specific. |
Ok, from now on I'll just PM you in regards to your post if I have a problem with them. I've just read your post about 5 times and it appears that you are saying just the opposite of what you are saying now..
Meantime my apologies...
| Quote: | | This is great b/c our bench was exposed for its inexperience. |
I don't understand this...
Also the bench is not playing against nothing but the oppositions trash all the time either. Jackson starts substitutions sometimes early in the first starting with Odom. He then gradually by the second has the entire 2nd unit in.
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wooo!!  12-1
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| jordanplusone wrote: | | Why wasn't Farmer like this when we played the Queens??? Snatching balls and all..LOL |
phil said the lakers bench were up against a group of players who were even quicker than them in the lakers-Kings game |
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| So what did Fisher say to Fox? |
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67ShelbyGT
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| THE_SHOES wrote: | | 67ShelbyGT wrote: | | THE_SHOES wrote: | | 67ShelbyGT wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | BENCH MOB!!!!! Where would be be without them? The first unit was sluggish. The Nets were driving the lane with Pau and Andrew in together. The Bench Mob turned the game around. Looks like if the starters keep it close the Bench Mob will hold on if not increase a lead. I like our depth. |
Reality is our bench has atleast 2 maybe 4 starter in other teams. And when they are going after 2nd tier players, some that should be in D-League, they can extend leads. Our starters are vets and really need to be coasting a bit to conserve their knees. After ASB you will see the starters get more into it. This is great b/c our bench was exposed for its inexperience. |
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I think there is an agenda on the loose... |
Dude, if you got something to say just say it... no need to play the consipiracy card? What is my agenda? Saying that our 2nd team is starter-worthy while other teams' bench has players that are D-League worthy is inaccurate? Be specific. |
Ok, from now on I'll just PM you in regards to your post if I have a problem with them. I've just read your post about 5 times and it appears that you are saying just the opposite of what you are saying now..
Meantime my apologies... |
No Problem, Shoes. Maybe I should've worded it as "against" instead of "after"... all is good in lakerland. One team, one fanbase! |
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| AllorNothing wrote: | | So what did Fisher say to Fox? |
Fish took exception to Fox talking about the "Laker tenderness" which inspired the guys to come out a bit tougher in the second half.
Fish went on to say that Fox spoke of the team as being just not mentally tough. Fish joked about that after answering the interviewers question wrong.
Fish couldn't believe that Fox threw the team under the buss like that on television!
Fun stuff!
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| Quote: | | This is great b/c our bench was exposed for its inexperience. |
I don't understand this...
Also the bench is not playing against nothing but the oppositions trash all the time either. Jackson starts substitutions sometimes early in the first starting with Odom. He then gradually by the second has the entire 2nd unit in. |
Boston's bench was actually less talented than us but they beat us with veteran savvy from Cassell, PJ, Posey, House. That was the series, our starters went head to head evenly on most games but their bench blew the games open. Our bench got outclassed, bullied and rattled by their vets.
And bringing one or two bench players at the end of the 1st/3rd qtrs doesnt not cover the majority of their minutes that is against opposing 2nd units where some are D-League worthy.
Its not a knock against our bench. Like I said before I think we have 2-4 starters in our bench and like someone said in another thread our 2nd unit would probably make playoffs in East. |
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