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LarryCoon Site Staff
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Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Trip_aka_Ace wrote: | im just a fan of the stride pianist |
Me too. Also Fats Waller, whose personality and singing often overshadowed the fact that he was one of the best stride players. |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown Star Player
Joined: 28 Apr 2008 Posts: 6429
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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LuxuryBrown wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | LuxuryBrown wrote: | Bballguru5000 wrote: | LuxuryBrown wrote: | (Rubs eyes...focuses...rubs eyes again...then reads following comment):
Quote: | They weren't the best at their respective instruments. |
(Rubs eyes again...Gets some Visine...Applies the Visine...then re-reads that comment...Then turns off computer ) |
If you think Coltrane and Miles were the greatest at their respective instruments then your knowledge of jazz music is not that great, so we can't really debate this any further. You're simply going by recognizable names and whom every Jane thinks is the best. |
This kid's hilarious. I love how he thinks his opinion is the end-all of opinions and that no one else can even chime in on, and yet it's MERELY his own "PERSONAL CHOICES" of what HE digs .
Yeah, hit me up when you can seriously breakdown "Coltrane's Sound" or "B|tches Brew," playa. Hell, you can even start with "Blue Train". |
Lux, you my boy and all, but honestly, you can't even mention Miles in the same sentence as Clifford Brown. Miles was an all time great and all, but Brownie was simply, and far and away, the best who ever lived. I mean, if you simply break down the elements of Jazz trumpet playing, Brownie was simply as good as or better, in every facet, than anyone who ever played the instrument.
I'm not saying Clifford was as important in the overall scheme of Jazz, obviously. Miles lived to 70 and was at the forefront of several movements while Clifford died at 25.
But as a trumpet player only, Miles wasn't in the same class as Clifford, not even debatable. |
Whew-Wee! That's a BIG claim, bruh! . I don't know about that. I've heard some of CB, and he's got some nice compositions - easily, but I wouldn't say it's not debateable between he and Miles. |
So Lux my man, you've had that CB CD I sent you for a couple of weeks. You still feeling that Miles was a better player than Brownie? _________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays |
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LuxuryBrown Franchise Player
Joined: 09 Jun 2006 Posts: 17429 Location: Mackadocious, Ca.
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:41 am Post subject: |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | LuxuryBrown wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | LuxuryBrown wrote: | Bballguru5000 wrote: | LuxuryBrown wrote: | (Rubs eyes...focuses...rubs eyes again...then reads following comment):
Quote: | They weren't the best at their respective instruments. |
(Rubs eyes again...Gets some Visine...Applies the Visine...then re-reads that comment...Then turns off computer ) |
If you think Coltrane and Miles were the greatest at their respective instruments then your knowledge of jazz music is not that great, so we can't really debate this any further. You're simply going by recognizable names and whom every Jane thinks is the best. |
This kid's hilarious. I love how he thinks his opinion is the end-all of opinions and that no one else can even chime in on, and yet it's MERELY his own "PERSONAL CHOICES" of what HE digs .
Yeah, hit me up when you can seriously breakdown "Coltrane's Sound" or "B|tches Brew," playa. Hell, you can even start with "Blue Train". |
Lux, you my boy and all, but honestly, you can't even mention Miles in the same sentence as Clifford Brown. Miles was an all time great and all, but Brownie was simply, and far and away, the best who ever lived. I mean, if you simply break down the elements of Jazz trumpet playing, Brownie was simply as good as or better, in every facet, than anyone who ever played the instrument.
I'm not saying Clifford was as important in the overall scheme of Jazz, obviously. Miles lived to 70 and was at the forefront of several movements while Clifford died at 25.
But as a trumpet player only, Miles wasn't in the same class as Clifford, not even debatable. |
Whew-Wee! That's a BIG claim, bruh! . I don't know about that. I've heard some of CB, and he's got some nice compositions - easily, but I wouldn't say it's not debateable between he and Miles. |
So Lux my man, you've had that CB CD I sent you for a couple of weeks. You still feeling that Miles was a better player than Brownie? |
I'm still workin' my way through the discs, but so far, it's damn close! _________________
Quote: | Smooth, but I move like an army / Bulletproof down in case brothas try to bomb me / Puttin' brothas to rest like Elliot Ness / Cuz I don't like stress
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown Star Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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LuxuryBrown wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | LuxuryBrown wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | LuxuryBrown wrote: | Bballguru5000 wrote: | LuxuryBrown wrote: | (Rubs eyes...focuses...rubs eyes again...then reads following comment):
Quote: | They weren't the best at their respective instruments. |
(Rubs eyes again...Gets some Visine...Applies the Visine...then re-reads that comment...Then turns off computer ) |
If you think Coltrane and Miles were the greatest at their respective instruments then your knowledge of jazz music is not that great, so we can't really debate this any further. You're simply going by recognizable names and whom every Jane thinks is the best. |
This kid's hilarious. I love how he thinks his opinion is the end-all of opinions and that no one else can even chime in on, and yet it's MERELY his own "PERSONAL CHOICES" of what HE digs .
Yeah, hit me up when you can seriously breakdown "Coltrane's Sound" or "B|tches Brew," playa. Hell, you can even start with "Blue Train". |
Lux, you my boy and all, but honestly, you can't even mention Miles in the same sentence as Clifford Brown. Miles was an all time great and all, but Brownie was simply, and far and away, the best who ever lived. I mean, if you simply break down the elements of Jazz trumpet playing, Brownie was simply as good as or better, in every facet, than anyone who ever played the instrument.
I'm not saying Clifford was as important in the overall scheme of Jazz, obviously. Miles lived to 70 and was at the forefront of several movements while Clifford died at 25.
But as a trumpet player only, Miles wasn't in the same class as Clifford, not even debatable. |
Whew-Wee! That's a BIG claim, bruh! . I don't know about that. I've heard some of CB, and he's got some nice compositions - easily, but I wouldn't say it's not debateable between he and Miles. |
So Lux my man, you've had that CB CD I sent you for a couple of weeks. You still feeling that Miles was a better player than Brownie? |
I'm still workin' my way through the discs, but so far, it's damn close! |
That's a start. It's hard to give it up on what you've always believed. Like I told you before, it isn't close and by the time you get through the CB disc a second time, by the time "Donna Lee" plays for the second time, by the time you hear the greatest trumpet solo ever played when Clifford does "Night in Tunisia," you'll come around, trust me. I suspect you'll also rank Lee Morgan above Miles as well. Keep me posted. _________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays |
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LuxuryBrown Franchise Player
Joined: 09 Jun 2006 Posts: 17429 Location: Mackadocious, Ca.
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:44 am Post subject: |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | LuxuryBrown wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | LuxuryBrown wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | LuxuryBrown wrote: | Bballguru5000 wrote: | LuxuryBrown wrote: | (Rubs eyes...focuses...rubs eyes again...then reads following comment):
Quote: | They weren't the best at their respective instruments. |
(Rubs eyes again...Gets some Visine...Applies the Visine...then re-reads that comment...Then turns off computer ) |
If you think Coltrane and Miles were the greatest at their respective instruments then your knowledge of jazz music is not that great, so we can't really debate this any further. You're simply going by recognizable names and whom every Jane thinks is the best. |
This kid's hilarious. I love how he thinks his opinion is the end-all of opinions and that no one else can even chime in on, and yet it's MERELY his own "PERSONAL CHOICES" of what HE digs .
Yeah, hit me up when you can seriously breakdown "Coltrane's Sound" or "B|tches Brew," playa. Hell, you can even start with "Blue Train". |
Lux, you my boy and all, but honestly, you can't even mention Miles in the same sentence as Clifford Brown. Miles was an all time great and all, but Brownie was simply, and far and away, the best who ever lived. I mean, if you simply break down the elements of Jazz trumpet playing, Brownie was simply as good as or better, in every facet, than anyone who ever played the instrument.
I'm not saying Clifford was as important in the overall scheme of Jazz, obviously. Miles lived to 70 and was at the forefront of several movements while Clifford died at 25.
But as a trumpet player only, Miles wasn't in the same class as Clifford, not even debatable. |
Whew-Wee! That's a BIG claim, bruh! . I don't know about that. I've heard some of CB, and he's got some nice compositions - easily, but I wouldn't say it's not debateable between he and Miles. |
So Lux my man, you've had that CB CD I sent you for a couple of weeks. You still feeling that Miles was a better player than Brownie? |
I'm still workin' my way through the discs, but so far, it's damn close! |
That's a start. It's hard to give it up on what you've always believed. Like I told you before, it isn't close and by the time you get through the CB disc a second time, by the time "Donna Lee" plays for the second time, by the time you hear the greatest trumpet solo ever played when Clifford does "Night in Tunisia," you'll come around, trust me. I suspect you'll also rank Lee Morgan above Miles as well. Keep me posted. |
Night in Tunisia is what I really wanna hear, so I'll bust that this evening. _________________
Quote: | Smooth, but I move like an army / Bulletproof down in case brothas try to bomb me / Puttin' brothas to rest like Elliot Ness / Cuz I don't like stress
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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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Old school - Bud Powell, Coltrane, Coleman Hawkins, Ellington, Basie.
Current - Philippe Saisse, Down To The Bone.
Rippingtons are great live but they lose energy in the studio.
True fave though is R&B - EWF is my band, then Stevie and the Temps. |
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richsmith Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Monk, Monk, and more Monk. |
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unleasHell Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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Wes Montgomery
Al Di Meola
(Early) George Benson
Mahavishnu Orchestra
Return to Forever
Stanley Clarke
Jeff Beck (Jazz stuff)
Stomu Yamashta
Terje Rypdal |
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