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Flo'z
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Tanlentueux
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| PakaLOLO wrote: | | Thanks Eric! Awesome work |
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tony smith
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If Brown wants too much $$$. I am all for Delonte on the cheap. Sure he's a headcase, but he's a solid defender, kinda clutch and won't need to be counted on as a make or break rotation player.
But MOST importantly, if we do go up against Miami in the finals, his mere presence could get into LeBron's head. Remember the LeBron vs. Boston implosion was right after the news about Delonte and Mama LeBron broke.
Could be another edge for us. 
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akgolf
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Nice article Eric, but if you plan on making it to ESPN you need to work on the title.
"How The Lakers Measure Up To The Friggin Awesome Miami Heat!"  |
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emplay
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Alpha
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| Flo'z wrote: | Ppl that live in Hawaii think they can recall everything correctly.  |
lol, you're right... i should edit it from "iirc" to just "irc".  |
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Thugnomoe
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olipnifur
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Hi Eric
How true is the story that we tried trading Sasha for West to save money? Are you saying that we trade for West then waiv ehim before Aug 5th then sign him again for veterans min and then sign also Shannon? Why dont we trade Luke for this instead? Luke can help Rambis educate the kids in Wolves to learn the Tri. |
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emplay
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i don't think West would have stayed for the vet min - but it's an interesting idea - something the Lakers can try to pursue with the Wolves though I'm skeptical they'd go for it.
why would the Wolves or anyone want Walton - he's under contract and is hurt.
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| emplay wrote: | at that time billups was just an under-the-radar combo guard who could hit streaky 3's.
Atkins and gang didn't come into play until later - the Devean George option was costly - cause Fox was hurt and LA needed a 3 and Devean was playing well and far more athletic than anyone else on the team |
Eric-
I've always laid the blame for the George option situation at Buss' feet. It seemed like he was in cost-cutting mode that summer ('01). He let Ho Grant walk over money, then the team didn't pick up George's option that summer/fall either, even though it was incredibly cheap.
As a gm, if you can pay a little money to keep a guy around for another year to see how he is going to develop, it seems like a safe way to cover yourself at a low cost. That's why I always thought it was Dr BUss' orders, as my understanding was he was very focused on finances that summer, starting with Ho's free agency.
I have long wondered how different the 3peat era would have been if they had retained George's option and then signed Billups, who even though he hadn't yet blossomed, was a clear upgrade over fish at that point- especially defensively. Could have easily been a 5-peat or more with Billups on board.
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emplay
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it's up to the GM to convince the owner to spend on the right pieces . . .
that's what mitch is doing now despite LA's payroll miles above what it was back then.
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babyskyhook
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| emplay wrote: | it's up to the GM to convince the owner to spend on the right pieces . . .
that's what mitch is doing now despite LA's payroll miles above what it was back then. |
Eric-
That's true up to a point, but when all is said and done, the owner is the boss and has the final word. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. And if the owner is dead set on something happening- it will happen, no matter who the GM is trying to convince him otherwise.
For example, no GM could have convinced Buss to keep Shaq after the '04 season. He was getting shipped out of town- no ifs, ands or buts about it. And that call was straight from the top.
This summer, I think it's the combination of two things that have resulted in the higher than expected spending:
1. Dr Buss is confident that they'll be able to move Sasha at some point this season. As I've been posting for a month, the math has been very clear- if Fish came in around $3-$3.5m and the full mle was used, signing the two rooks and vet min big would put the payroll at $93.5 worst case. Adding Shannon at $3m or less would put it at $96.5m worst case. Coincidentally (or not), dumping Sasha to a team with capspace this summer and signing a min salary pg like Critt or Straw would then bring the final payroll to $91.5m- almost exactly what it was last year.
Given that ticket prices have been raised and tv and radio revenue will increase, Dr Buss will make a higher profit while fielding a better team. I think Dr Buss and MItch were running their projections and making their plans with the above salary figures in mind all along as they headed into summer.
2. Once the Miami situation occurred, it only reinforced to Dr Buss the importance of upgrading the team. So even if they may have been inclined to hesitate on further spending, LBJ taking his talents to So Beach convinced the good Dr to spend further, even though Sasha hasn't been dumped yet.
My point in all of this is I don't think Mitch had to do that much convincing this summer to get the Dr to spend. Dr Buss knows the window is now, and that they won the title last year by a very close margin- despite having glaring weaknesses on the bench. I think he was ready to spend, which is the exact opposite of where he was in summer of 2001, when he tightened the purse strings across the board, with negative results that had long-lasting consequences.
I give Dr Buss a lot of credit for learning the lessons of where he went wrong in 2001 and making all the right moves this summer.
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A championship team improved their bench 10x than the previous year.
NBA U SCARED?
please someone photoshop our starting 5 with barnes, blake, and odom. Saying
U SCARED.
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| Good article Eric...it's true Blake will turn out to be the best move of the season. Jordan wasn't into the offense, and his defensive prowess lacked. Blake is a good solid player much in the mold of Fish, and will turn out to be a tremendous pickup. |
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