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Vlade Star Player
Joined: 08 May 2005 Posts: 2373 Location: valley of dry bone dreams
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:35 pm Post subject: Should we send Odom home? |
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I am no Odom-basher... I think he is a solid player who happens to be overpaid. I would only trade him if we get something of real value in return. I think this trade qualifies, and that it makes sense for both teams.
We get depth at C/Pf with an excellent prospect in Frye. We also get a fiesty PG and a big expiring contract. Because Frye and Robinson are both Rookies, we can figure to go through some real growing pains with this deal, but in the long term it could really pay off, as we would have lots of young talent and cap flexibility.
New York gets a player that Larry Brown really likes. Lots of pressure in the Big Apple to win now, and there's no doubt this trade helps them in the short term. They lose a big expring K, but get back two smaller expiring K's to lessen the financial blow. Likely Larry Brown sees Lamar as a guy he can build around, and also likely his peeps welcome him home.
So what do you think?
Here's the trade:
L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Stanislav Medvedenko
6-10 PF from Ukraine (Foreign)
1.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.5 apg in 3.5 minutes
Devean George
6-8 SF from Augsburg-MN
6.3 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.0 apg in 22.4 minutes
Lamar Odom
6-10 SF from Rhode Island
14.3 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 5.5 apg in 39.6 minutes
Incoming
Nate Robinson
5-9 PG from Washington
8.9 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 20.2 minutes
Channing Frye
6-11 C from Arizona
14.0 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 0.9 apg in 25.9 minutes
Anfernee Hardaway
6-7 SG from Memphis
2.5 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 18.0 minutes
Change in team outlook: +3.8 ppg, -2.1 rpg, and -2.2 apg.
New York Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Nate Robinson
5-9 PG from Washington
8.9 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 1.9 apg in 20.2 minutes
Channing Frye
6-11 C from Arizona
14.0 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 0.9 apg in 25.9 minutes
Anfernee Hardaway
6-7 SG from Memphis
2.5 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 18.0 minutes
Incoming
Stanislav Medvedenko
6-10 PF from Ukraine (Foreign)
1.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.5 apg in 3.5 minutes
Devean George
6-8 SF from Augsburg-MN
6.3 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.0 apg in 22.4 minutes
Lamar Odom
6-10 SF from Rhode Island
14.3 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 5.5 apg in 39.6 minutes
Change in team outlook: -3.8 ppg, +2.1 rpg, and +2.2 apg.
Successful Scenario
Due to L.A. Lakers and New York being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. L.A. Lakers and New York had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Trade ID
Every trade made by fans is allocated a unique Trade ID which you can share with friends and fellow basketball fans to allow them to see your trade scenario. The Trade ID for this scenario is 2873942. _________________ -
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Krispy Kreme Franchise Player
Joined: 30 Mar 2003 Posts: 12252
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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probably not. i didnt want to trade lamar earlier in the year. but he is playing like crap lately. he looks TOTALLY lost out there. we have the worst #2 option in the division. Artest, Maggette, Jrich, Marion are all better than Odom. |
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KobeButler Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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new york aint trading frye. _________________ Pain is temporary, at the end of pain is success... |
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topramen78 Star Player
Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 1879
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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And New York does this why?
If your logic is because Larry Brown likes Odom...
He LOVES Nate Robinson and likes Channing Frye as well.
So, based on your "like/love" logic, this ain't gonna work. |
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Vlade Star Player
Joined: 08 May 2005 Posts: 2373 Location: valley of dry bone dreams
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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topramen78 wrote: | And New York does this why?
If your logic is because Larry Brown likes Odom...
He LOVES Nate Robinson and likes Channing Frye as well.
So, based on your "like/love" logic, this ain't gonna work. |
I disagree with your assessment... I think there's a real chance that NY would do this. I think Odom's value around the league is considerably higher than we think around here. Also, New York sucks, bad. Odom gives them a player right now, and I bet Larry Brown would think he could get a lot more out of Odom than Phil is getting now.
But let's say NY wants a bit more, so we up the offer a bit by tossing in the Miami pick... or maybe we take Ariza instead of Robinson.
If you want to trade Odom, you've got to first see who would want him. I think NY would be a top suitor. Don't forget, most think that Odom can play PF in the East. _________________ -
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Drifts Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Lamar back in NY is trouble...we don't need him banned for life. _________________ "Now, if life is coffee, then the jobs, money & position in society are the cups. They are just tools to hold & contain life, but the quality of life doesn't change. Sometimes, by concentrating only on the cup, we fail to enjoy the coffee in it." |
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LA4Life Star Player
Joined: 19 May 2004 Posts: 1349
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Just send him to the nbdl, let his weed soaked brain get cleared up before he plays another NBA game. _________________ David Stern and NBA Officials <-- 2004 NBA Champions |
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bounty Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Vlade wrote: | topramen78 wrote: | And New York does this why?
If your logic is because Larry Brown likes Odom...
He LOVES Nate Robinson and likes Channing Frye as well.
So, based on your "like/love" logic, this ain't gonna work. |
I disagree with your assessment... I think there's a real chance that NY would do this. I think Odom's value around the league is considerably higher than we think around here. Also, New York sucks, bad. Odom gives them a player right now, and I bet Larry Brown would think he could get a lot more out of Odom than Phil is getting now.
But let's say NY wants a bit more, so we up the offer a bit by tossing in the Miami pick... or maybe we take Ariza instead of Robinson.
If you want to trade Odom, you've got to first see who would want him. I think NY would be a top suitor. Don't forget, most think that Odom can play PF in the East. |
Where is this value you speak of. Who can we get for an 11mil a year rebounder who turns the ball over. come on Vlade. Sure we can trade him but we wont get the 2nd we need. _________________ Lakers Tickets |
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tgf5 Franchise Player
Joined: 18 Jun 2005 Posts: 11581 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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8 TURNOVERS. 4 FOULS. 4 MISSED FTs. THANK YOU ODOM.
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shnjb Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Of course New York would never do it but as a Laker fan, any trade that sends Odom away is a good one. |
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golden armor Starting Rotation
Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 845
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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NY would never do this trade. Larry likes Lamar but he also really likes Frye and Frye doesn't make 11-14 mil plus over the next 4,5 years. And, then you want to add Nate Robinson as well? No way that NY does this trade. |
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coop-a-loop Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Isaiah thomas is stupid enough to make such a trade |
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KingKobeDubbz Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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I mean damn give Lamar some time. He is doing fine. When he is on fire you guys are prasising . When he doesn;t have a big offensive game but still drops like 9 assists and like 12 boards it's the end of the world. I in one do like Lamar Odom and still se a very bright upside for this guy. Well what really counts Phil sees the same thing as me. |
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shnjb Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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KingKobeDubbz wrote: | I mean damn give Lamar some time. |
We've given him 1.5 season as a Laker and 8 seasons as an NBA player.
He's still dumb as the day he first entered the league (arguably dumber) and he still cannot defend or finish with his left.
We're talking about being a dumb basketball player too, not a dumb person for MENSA... I'm glad he's not out in the real world making important decisions, like whether to give super-sized meal for his customer or not. |
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kobekillinu2nite Star Player
Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 1774
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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If Odom gets caught smokin' refer again, and he gets suspended, does that take his contract off the cap??? If so, plant that crap in his hotel room, his house, shove it up his dog's ass, do whatever, just tempt the heck out of him with ice, boom, pow, crack, weed, whatever, lets get Bosh. |
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lakerfin Starting Rotation
Joined: 14 Jun 2005 Posts: 633 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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I think someone should put a bug in Artest's ear, and convince him that LA is the place for him. Hollywood, whatever. He's not happy.......I don't know.
But Lamar and George/Kwame for Artest. Let's face it. We need at least one more legit player on this team or forget about it. Alright realisticly maybe it's not Artest but we need to see something. |
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bounty Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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supposedly the maloofs wanted LO for peja. well how about LO for artest and Skinner _________________ Lakers Tickets |
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bambam Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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odom wont be dealt until they can use him to force a sign/trade with a restricted F/A or are getting a real talent player. |
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Vlade Star Player
Joined: 08 May 2005 Posts: 2373 Location: valley of dry bone dreams
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting how several of you think that NY would never do this trade, and yet a sizable minority (presumably Laker fans) wouldn't even do this deal...
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gastr Sixth Man
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't move lamar for anyone until the KG situation plays out. |
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STiG909 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Without Frye and Robinson, the Knicks have nothing to look forward to in the future. That's an extremely unfair trade. |
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kobekillinu2nite Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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I am in agreement. I think we should start lookin'. I have hindered myself from saying it and efended him, but he has been horrific. Can't shoot, inconsistent. When we get to the playoffs, do we get good odom, or suck balls Odom??? Which will it be? |
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Sage_10 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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KingKobeDubbz wrote: | I mean damn give Lamar some time. He is doing fine. When he is on fire you guys are prasising . When he doesn;t have a big offensive game but still drops like 9 assists and like 12 boards it's the end of the world. I in one do like Lamar Odom and still se a very bright upside for this guy. Well what really counts Phil sees the same thing as me. |
I'm with you man! I won't trade Lamar at this point unless it's for KG period. But I also see a tremendous upside and his value to the team. Lamar shouldn't be traded. |
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KingKobe8thWonder Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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Who the hell is voting for this chump. Everyday I pray ill wake up and see a headline about this laker organization making a big deal with someone! Please let it happen! Get rid of Odom for ANYONE please!!!!! Can anyone put a good argument for him, let send him AND kwame away somewhere far far away! _________________ "To me he is the best player in the world right now. That guy doesn't know fear at all. He doesn't care. He would have won it for the Americans single-handedly." Dirk Nowitzki |
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