Overlooked Mistake Made by Front Office this Offseason that May Cost Some Games

datniggbstyle · Star Player Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 1465

Mitch or other hands involved dealt the WRONG small forward to the charlotte bobcats. Jumaine Jones is damn near exactly what we need off the bench right now. Luke Walton semi-disgust me. I just had to get that off my chest. Jumaine Jones is what the games been missing.

This is not a bash mitch thread, its a bash front office because im sure Phillip had alot to do with Jumaine being dealt. We needed tha energy and 3pt ability right about now. Luke brings NOTHING.

emplay · Site Staff Joined: 15 Apr 2001 Posts: 25549

Walton doesn't bring NOTHING - he's been struggling - but he's one of the few players on the team who can initiate the offense - thus enabled Kobe to score.

If there was no Walton - Kobe would have to handle the ball more - especially with the second team.

Odom and Walton are facilitators - with skills that Smush and Sasha have yet to develop.
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datniggbstyle · Star Player Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 1465

OX1947 · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:21 pm Post subject:

our role players are fine. Our first option is fine. The problem is our 2nd option is no consistent. And we do not have a consistent shooter.

LakersRGolden · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:31 pm Post subject:

IMHO Luke and Odom are struggling for the same reason, they are facilitators looking to get the ball to scorers. Unfortunately, what that boils down to on this team is get the ball to Kobe while doubled or Smush on the ball reversal for the 1st team. Cook / Sasha on the second team.

Nobody even cuts to the basket w/o the ball!

Until 1) We get a 2nd scorer 2) Role players execute their cuts 3)Kwame starts catching passes - our facilitators are just the guy who gives the ball to Kobe.

Drifts · Retired Number Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 28374

Luke Walton does not help Kobe at all...his inability to hit the wide open shot is not helping relieve Kobe of the double/triple teams he gets. Luke Walton is a liability out there, both on defense and offense.
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4OnTheFloor · Star Player Joined: 20 Feb 2004 Posts: 1148

Darkndeep · Star Player Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 2070

Hindsight is 20/20. I think if you polled Lakers fans at the time, few would have preferred to trade Walton over Jones. Can't blame Mitch for not seeing Walton's free fall: I doubt many did.

Sidious · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:02 pm Post subject:

I would have kept Kareem Rush maybe, we just need shooters. But that's water under the bridge.

dadamookie · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:09 pm Post subject:

Man, Luke has been one of my favorite players ever since he joined the team. But he really hasn't shown that much improvement over the years.

He always had a really high basketball IQ and knows the game well which allows him to make great reads and passes. He's grown more agressive on the boards and driving the basket too.

But, he can't shoot. His form looks wack, no matter if he's open or guarded. He's going to have to get a consistent jump shot if he wants to contribute to this team or even stay in the league.

His passing ability and basketball IQ can't mask his lack of shooting skills and defensive shortcomings. Just look at Sasha -- he's a liability on defense but at least he can shoot.

LakersRGolden · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:50 pm Post subject:

Luke's shot is a confidence / playing time issue (he'll never be money though). But his lack of D. and our stagnant offense make him to much of a liability to let him play out of it.
'Course we'll be seeing a lot of him 'til the allstar game....

kqiu2210 · Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:52 pm Post subject:

Luke has triangle experience. JJ doesn't, end of story.

Mailman04 · Starting Rotation Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 904

We still have Devin Green. :roll:

laker4life · Star Player Joined: 26 Nov 2001 Posts: 7317

I am pissed off too. But what can you do.

I always said that Mitch has not been able to create a winning and consistent "team". If you want to praise him for creating an average team, then he is truly one of the great GM.

Jax is going to pissed off. Look at Kupcakes pick

Walton 1-5
Cook 1-8
Sasha 0-3

With Odom's injury, we are going back to 500. Teams are going triple team Kobe.

tw-lakbfan · Franchise Player Joined: 29 Jun 2001 Posts: 16636

Add George to the list, 1-7. Oh, I got you, George is a West pick.

Walton is a liability now.

Trevacious · Star Player Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Posts: 1833

bigdog2 · Starting Rotation Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 166

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BigE32 · Star Player Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 8518

I'm sorry, but Walton is a liability on the floor. When he can actually hit an open shot every once in a while, then he can play. For being a good passer, I've seen him commit too many turnovers for my liking. I get disgusted when I see him run on to the floor. He should be riding pine offering drinks to players as they come off the floor for a breather.

datniggbstyle · Star Player Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 1465

damn, i didnt know it was gonna go down like this. JJ you are missed.

Sage_10 · Star Player Joined: 24 Dec 2005 Posts: 6668

I sincerely doubt JJ will have a game like that the rest of the season.

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