Keep the "Core" together

Fallout · Star Player Joined: 03 Jun 2002 Posts: 7626

This is not even the 'core'. These are pieces gotten from the Shaq trade, so the team is not balanced yet. Anyone could see that. These are not final pieces by any stretch. I like Butler, but I like him better as a trade bait.

Rest assured that there will be some changes. If Mitch doesn't do any changes this summer, I'm on the Mitch bashing bandwagon.

If I had to call the current batch of Lakers a 'core' it would be just KB and LO. But even LO is tradable on the right conditions.

Endure 12 · Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:13 pm Post subject:

Texas_Pete

CorkyTomjanovich · Star Player Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 3486

We can keep Butler and try to bring in scraps at the 1 and the 4. Everyone is happy! Problem is we get to the 2nd round of the playoffs if we are lucky. Kobe is the 2, Odom is the 3, Butler is out. He gets moved in a deal to bring in a 4 and who knows what we can do next season.

This has to be done.
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Kobina returns · Starting Rotation Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Posts: 701

I think many people here underestimate the value of Butler. If you remember, at the ending of the season he went on a scoring spree and all facets of his game improved. He had games where he scored 24pts 5rebs and 5 ass and play great. I believe he will carry it on to this season and be a needed 20ppg scorer for the Lakers. His defense is improving as well. He looks like he's reaching his full potential and I would be awfully upset if he became an all star under another team.

manu2kobe · Rookie Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 14

i dont see what the use is for butler. odom is a sf. kobe is a sg/sf. he should be used to trade for good young point guard. like kirk hinrich

1hu2ren3dui4 · Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:43 pm Post subject:

GameCock-MD · Star Player Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 4498

Caron is a SG/SF...

We want an impact BIG...

The cardinal rule is to NOT trade BIG for small...

To get what we wanted, we would have to find a team with one of these profiles:

1) Lots of quality BIGs and need backcourt/wing help...
2) Rebuilding...need young, cheap talent...
3) Disgruntled star that has leverage and a desire to play for LA
4) Talented roster but IDIOT GM...
5) Team that DOESN'T have a grudge against LAL...

That's not likely...

If we get an offer that we can't refuse, trade him or anybody else...
If we get a BS offer, suck it up and look to trade the expiring contracts at a later date...

X56 · Starting Rotation Joined: 24 Apr 2005 Posts: 675

While keeping a core per se is a good idea, I am not sure that you can get to the gold at the end of the rainbow with Kobe, LO, Butler and Mihm as your core. Also either LO, Butler, Mihm or a combination of the three plus others are our trading assets necessary to fill the needs of the team.
just my 2cents.

Smel Counts · Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:51 am Post subject:

I Love Caron's Heart. We need a lot more of that kind of personality. A big reason I love the Turiaf pick. But for the right trade ONLY KOBE IS UNTOUCHABLE.

kareemKobe · Sixth Man Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 50

Fisher, Harper and Shaw in the championship years were not quick point guards by any stretch of the imagination. I remember Kobe locking down Iverson in the final not our "true" point guard.

Also remember the opponents "true" point guard would need to cover Caron or Kobe in the post.

I side with keeping the core and trading the trash.

We also should keep Grant as next year he becomes a major trade asset with his expiring 15M contract even though Buss would have to pay more in luxury tax. I also think Grant can still contribute as he has been a solid player except for last year.

Charles · Star Player Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Posts: 4525

swift eagle · Starting Rotation Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 163

Caron should not be a starter to this team. Unless something has changed in his playmaking ability where he suddenly became a quality point guard who can keep up with the likes of nash, parker, bibby, etc, he is not fit to start. phil is so high with lamar playing the point forward position, kobe plays best as sg. Caron would be great coming from the bench, but he is more valuable to a trade for our needs- a quality pg and a shotblocking- rebounding pf. imho the core of this team as of now is kobe, lamar, turiaf and bynum.
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Texas_Pete · Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:12 am Post subject:

Revisiting an old thread here. I consider our "core" to be Kobe, Mihm, Odom, Kwame, Bynum, Parker / Sasha and Cook. In that core we have tradeable pieces to use to get help for this team immediately. Bolded are the two untouchables. We know that this team is underachieving this year and that most Laker fans are impatient (including me). But if these 8 players were to stay together, and we add a few other pieces, I think this team will be better for it right now. I believe we are a veteran PG and a legit shotblocker away (no diss to Mihm -- he is just too foul proned to have a sustained impact). The pieces are there physically and with more time and seasoning together we could be back where LA needs to be and that is being contenders again...

40ptmachine · Starting Rotation Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 633

Why bring this up ?
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