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OdomX2 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:41 pm Post subject: 42-31 Ft disparity at home |
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with Chuckie Atkins...CHUCKIE ATKINS taking 12 (bleep) FT's. I'm at a loss.
Classic Phil Jackson (bleep) job
Get everyone involved until they continue to stink and then rely on Kobe to shoot over doubles, no calls and we're screwed.
and then, said scrubs, with all the huffy and puffy Phil the Zen master can muster, decide to shoot critical shots down the stretch (Odom, has yet to hit a meaningful shot since he pissed his diapers, and now Cook, the new hero, the latest scrub to believe that he could be Kobe's Robin, shooting a brick with 10 seconds left out of a timeout)
Really vintage Phil Jackson ball. |
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Worthy42 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:44 pm Post subject: Re: 42-31 Ft disparity at home |
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OdomX2 wrote: | with Chuckie Atkins...CHUCKIE ATKINS taking 12 (bleep) FT's. I'm at a loss.
Classic Phil Jackson (bleep) job
Get everyone involved until they continue to stink and then rely on Kobe to shoot over doubles, no calls and we're screwed.
and then, said scrubs, with all the huffy and puffy Phil the Zen master can muster, decide to shoot critical shots down the stretch (Odom, has yet to hit a meaningful shot since he pissed his diapers, and now Cook, the new hero, the latest scrub to believe that he could be Kobe's Robin, shooting a brick with 10 seconds left out of a timeout)
Really vintage Phil Jackson ball. |
The way the game was being called, there was really no reason for the Lakers to be launching 27 3pt attempts. We're not the Suns or the Warriors, there's never a need to launch more then 15 3's in a game anyways, anytime we shoot more then that, expect a close game and most likely a lost.
Gotta be aggressive and attack the hoop even if the calls aren't going your way. Stop settling for 3's. This goes for Kobe too. 1-8... |
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Lionel The Laker Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Philip has no choice. He didn't draft Sasha. NBDL refugee William Parker is just as bad on defense. |
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laker4life Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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why are you blaming phil for this lost. Odom and Cook made the decisions to go for it. Not Phil. That is ridiculous.
We are a five hundred team. Deal with it. |
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KobeButler Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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the famous "blame ref" threads after every loss. _________________ Pain is temporary, at the end of pain is success... |
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Worthy42 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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laker4life wrote: | why are you blaming phil for this lost. Odom and Cook made the decisions to go for it. Not Phil. That is ridiculous.
We are a five hundred team. Deal with it. |
Stop blaming individuals. There's no reason for 27 3pta's to be sprinkled all over the game especially going against a soft interior team like Memphis. Hell, they went to the line 42 times! You come out flat, and you can't expect to win. They allowed Gasol to go off for what, 17 in the first quarter? Pathetic. |
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tgf5 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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KobeButler wrote: | the famous "blame ref" threads after every loss. |
Gotta be at least one of them |
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OdomX2 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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KobeButler wrote: | the famous "blame ref" threads after every loss. |
11 pt ft disparity with their backup recently waived guard shooting more FT's than Kobe Bryant. Nah, just a coincidence. |
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lakersfan4life69 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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dude, the lakers are playing no defense. none, zip, nada. they reach all the time, and if you haven't noticed, that's a foul every time this year. |
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Hades Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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too many stupid permiter(sp?) foul |
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OdomX2 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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lakersfan4life69 wrote: | dude, the lakers are playing no defense. none, zip, nada. they reach all the time, and if you haven't noticed, that's a foul every time this year. |
I've got NO PROBLEM with the touch fouls or the reaches being called on the Lakers. Just call them both ways. I'm sick and damn tired of watching Kobe get hammered with no call, and the other teams backup guard getting touch fouls...AGAIN IN THE LAKERS BUILDING! Honestly, I've been a fan of pro ball and the Lakers for 30 years. If Kobe weren't a Laker, I'd never watch this league, I mean ever. |
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Worthy42 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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OdomX2 wrote: | lakersfan4life69 wrote: | dude, the lakers are playing no defense. none, zip, nada. they reach all the time, and if you haven't noticed, that's a foul every time this year. |
I've got NO PROBLEM with the touch fouls or the reaches being called on the Lakers. Just call them both ways. I'm sick and damn tired of watching Kobe get hammered with no call, and the other teams backup guard getting touch fouls...AGAIN IN THE LAKERS BUILDING! Honestly, I've been a fan of pro ball and the Lakers for 30 years. If Kobe weren't a Laker, I'd never watch this league, I mean ever. |
Totally agree. Unless it's an obvious hack, the Lakers get the double standard almost every night, except that NY game. |
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superboy Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Worthy42 wrote: | OdomX2 wrote: | lakersfan4life69 wrote: | dude, the lakers are playing no defense. none, zip, nada. they reach all the time, and if you haven't noticed, that's a foul every time this year. |
I've got NO PROBLEM with the touch fouls or the reaches being called on the Lakers. Just call them both ways. I'm sick and damn tired of watching Kobe get hammered with no call, and the other teams backup guard getting touch fouls...AGAIN IN THE LAKERS BUILDING! Honestly, I've been a fan of pro ball and the Lakers for 30 years. If Kobe weren't a Laker, I'd never watch this league, I mean ever. |
Totally agree. Unless it's an obvious hack, the Lakers get the double standard almost every night, except that NY game. |
Hell yeah, there's a double standard, especially when you consider that Kobe's arguably the best player in the league. But like someone said before, unlike Magic, Michael, Wade, Lebron, Kobe's not the NBA darling, that's for sure. But there is a double standard big time.
I agree, if it weren't for Kobe, I'm pretty much done with the league. I've been slowly weaning myself off the past 2 years, but I keep getting sucked back. But with flopping and the inconsistent foul calling, and the zone defense, this league just sucks. My interest will come back maybe if they just go back to normal sometime in Kobe's career and take out the zone defense. I'm sick of watching team college ball in the NBA. This is a man's league, not an amatuer shooter's league. I swear, some of these guys that think they're so valuable in the NBA (aka Bruce Bowen) would be nothing without zone D. If I want to watch college ball (and I don't) I'll watch real college ball, don't try to force the issue in professional basketball. |
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DocK36 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:01 am Post subject: |
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What the F happened to letting players decide the game? How often you see clock winding down and they call a foul 20 feet away from the basket, guy not even shooting the ball, to decide the game via FT? Did they mistook Chucky for Michael Jordan or Lebron James? Heck, Lebron doesn't even get that kind of calls at this point. Did these refs have a little action on the side with Rick Tocchet? _________________ Ringo "You retired too?"
Doc "Not me, I'm in my prime." |
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Worthy42 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:17 am Post subject: |
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What made me sick was watching Memphis flopping around out there on both ends hoping to get calls. AND GETTING THEM... that was disgusting to watch, it's not even basketball anymore at that point. More of a stunt man challenge or something. |
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lakers_less_340+ Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:36 am Post subject: Re: 42-31 Ft disparity at home |
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Worthy42 wrote: | OdomX2 wrote: | with Chuckie Atkins...CHUCKIE ATKINS taking 12 (bleep) FT's. I'm at a loss.
Classic Phil Jackson (bleep) job
Get everyone involved until they continue to stink and then rely on Kobe to shoot over doubles, no calls and we're screwed.
and then, said scrubs, with all the huffy and puffy Phil the Zen master can muster, decide to shoot critical shots down the stretch (Odom, has yet to hit a meaningful shot since he pissed his diapers, and now Cook, the new hero, the latest scrub to believe that he could be Kobe's Robin, shooting a brick with 10 seconds left out of a timeout)
Really vintage Phil Jackson ball. |
The way the game was being called, there was really no reason for the Lakers to be launching 27 3pt attempts. We're not the Suns or the Warriors, there's never a need to launch more then 15 3's in a game anyways, anytime we shoot more then that, expect a close game and most likely a lost.
Gotta be aggressive and attack the hoop even if the calls aren't going your way. Stop settling for 3's. This goes for Kobe too. 1-8... |
Agreed, they shoot entirely too many threes. Its one thing if you have players who can shoot them at a decent %, but quite a different thing when they can't hit the broad side of a barn with a bulldozer!
Enough with the threes!!!!!
Atkins shoots 12 free throws, I bet he never had a game in a Laker uniform with that many, in fact he was or at least it seems he was, always launching up 3's! _________________ "Hate that I'm a veteran and a champion, hate that.
Hate with all your heart, hate I'm loved for the exact same reason." Kobe Bryant |
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