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 Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:35 pm Post subject: Conjecture: A Bidding War For Odom? |
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| I have no source for this thought, but it occured to me that there might be a secret bidding war going on for Lamar Odom, and Isiah Thomas is on the front lines. I think the Lakers may have decided that it is time to move Odom, but they want to get the best deal they can without upsetting Lamar in the process (in case no deal is made). I think it may have started after the game against the Kings, but you never know. The way Isiah made that comment about Odom and being afraid of what he might do in his home town if he played for the Knicks, made me believe that he is trying to drive down his value so he can get the player that everyone knows he really wants. I also heard on AM 570 (I think it was Matt "Money" Smith) that Indiana might be looking to move Jermaine O'Neal if the right deal came their way. It was widely reported that Indiana offered Artest and Croshere for Lamar so the interest for Lamar is there. It is just speculation, but you never know..... |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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I like Jermaine O'Neal, but if the Lakers made that move they would be tanking the season, as O'Neal is out for two months.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| no way indy gives odom for oneal,they know hes more of a third option.plus theres always an upset KG to think about |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Isiah has said publicly that he is less interested in bringing in Odom to NY
for the same reason he eventually backed away from Artest.
He thinks (implicity at least from his comments) that Artest and Odom
would get into too much trouble being back in the NY area. Too much
potential for Odom to mix it up with the wrong crowd, etc. |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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With the way things are going with Isiah and NY - He won't be the one calling the shots for long.
Either Brown replaces him or they hire a guy that will be a yesman. |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| It's not Thomas, it's Brown who loves Lamar... |
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| Luke wrote: | | It's not Thomas, it's Brown who loves Lamar... |
Good point; even more of a reason that there could be some truth to the Knicks having interest in Odom. I am sure Isiah has gotten many offers from many different teams in regards to Channing Fye, why single out Odom and then give a short narrative as to why you turned down a specific deal and then add why the player would not fit into playing in New York because of his past. You know Isiah, he is always up to something.... |
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I doubt Odom is being offered for Frye. Lakers weren't willing to give him up for Artest, so this indicates to me that it's less possible the Lakers would trade Odom for a rookie in Frye. IMO, it's just the NY newspapers trying to stir up what is not there.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Every Laker fan should simply be rooting for Isiah to be fired ASAP.
The Knicks make tragically lopsided moves in all the wrong directions and ignore cap-space.
They're on quite the streak.
With Isiah there, he's got the ego to trump Brown and ignore his wants as a coach.
With Isiah gone, Odom would be an instant target of them and our chances of
getting a deal that favors us (maybe even largely so), at least based on NYK recent
history, is purdy darned good  |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| sodapoppenski wrote: | Isiah has said publicly that he is less interested in bringing in Odom to NY
for the same reason he eventually backed away from Artest.
He thinks (implicity at least from his comments) that Artest and Odom
would get into too much trouble being back in the NY area. Too much
potential for Odom to mix it up with the wrong crowd, etc. |
All of the sudden Isiah is thinking when it comes to trades? I don't think so. |
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| encina1 wrote: | | I like Jermaine O'Neal, but if the Lakers made that move they would be tanking the season, as O'Neal is out for two months. |
its better than tanking the next two season...even if it is a dream.. |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| sodapoppenski wrote: | Every Laker fan should simply be rooting for Isiah to be fired ASAP.
The Knicks make tragically lopsided moves in all the wrong directions and ignore cap-space.
They're on quite the streak.
With Isiah there, he's got the ego to trump Brown and ignore his wants as a coach.
With Isiah gone, Odom would be an instant target of them and our chances of
getting a deal that favors us (maybe even largely so), at least based on NYK recent
history, is purdy darned good |
Did I MISS something, WHO on the NY roster is even any good? Considering you are so willing to give them Lamar?
The best trade with NY is NO TRADE. |
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| JO for Odom would be an f'n bargain whether he's injured or not. If your a GM and that deal is on the table, there's no way you don't take it. We really don't lose that much if Lamar is not on the floor. Devean can rebound just as good as Odom and he plays better defense. It also opens the door for Cook to get more minutes. I don't think we'd tank the season just because LO isn't on the court, we definitely are a better team with him, but I think we could still make the playoffs if he wasn't around. It's all worth it if you're getting a player like Jermaine, we'd be instant contenders next season. |
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| GMWEST wrote: | | sodapoppenski wrote: | Every Laker fan should simply be rooting for Isiah to be fired ASAP.
The Knicks make tragically lopsided moves in all the wrong directions and ignore cap-space.
They're on quite the streak.
With Isiah there, he's got the ego to trump Brown and ignore his wants as a coach.
With Isiah gone, Odom would be an instant target of them and our chances of
getting a deal that favors us (maybe even largely so), at least based on NYK recent
history, is purdy darned good |
Did I MISS something, WHO on the NY roster is even any good? Considering you are so willing to give them Lamar?
The best trade with NY is NO TRADE. |
Exactly, they have a whole bunch of garbage on that roster, a bunch of overpaid guys who've seen better days. The only reason to get involve with NY is maybe to use Penny's expiring contract to land a player on a third team.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| GMWEST wrote: | | sodapoppenski wrote: | Every Laker fan should simply be rooting for Isiah to be fired ASAP.
The Knicks make tragically lopsided moves in all the wrong directions and ignore cap-space.
They're on quite the streak.
With Isiah there, he's got the ego to trump Brown and ignore his wants as a coach.
With Isiah gone, Odom would be an instant target of them and our chances of
getting a deal that favors us (maybe even largely so), at least based on NYK recent
history, is purdy darned good |
Did I MISS something, WHO on the NY roster is even any good? Considering you are so willing to give them Lamar?
The best trade with NY is NO TRADE. |
Actually I was more poking fun at the Knicks than much else.
A few days ago this came up regarding Odom for Frye.
I said at the time (and still say) that Odom for Frye & Nate Robinson at
least gets tempting, but even then I'd be hesitant to pull the trigger.
So there's your answer |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 7:11 am Post subject: |
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| sodapoppenski wrote: | Isiah has said publicly that he is less interested in bringing in Odom to NY
for the same reason he eventually backed away from Artest.
He thinks (implicity at least from his comments) that Artest and Odom
would get into too much trouble being back in the NY area. Too much
potential for Odom to mix it up with the wrong crowd, etc. |
Soda, you know Isiah is full of bs. He just said that, cuz he can't land anyone except for Jalen Rose. Look at the Knick lineup.....you're telling me Isiah didn't try to do anything he could to get Artest??? Isiah is the biggest compulsive liar out there and I'm just glad he has nothing to do with the Lakers. By far the worst GM out there! |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| sodapoppenski wrote: | Isiah has said publicly that he is less interested in bringing in Odom to NY
for the same reason he eventually backed away from Artest.
He thinks (implicity at least from his comments) that Artest and Odom
would get into too much trouble being back in the NY area. Too much
potential for Odom to mix it up with the wrong crowd, etc. |
Come on, Soda. You don't seriously believe that just because Isaiah said it... Do you?
He also said all his rookies/young players were untouchable, but now he's dangling them as bait. Of course he's going to act like a desirable player isn't really desirable. He doesn't want to drive up his own price.
That said, the Lakers aren't trading Odom for Frye. Frye gives you worse defense, less scoring, nearly 1/2 the rebounds, a 6th of the assists and is way too weak and skinny in the west - can't hold position at all on defense. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 7:39 am Post subject: |
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| sodapoppenski wrote: | Every Laker fan should simply be rooting for Isiah to be fired ASAP.
The Knicks make tragically lopsided moves in all the wrong directions and ignore cap-space.
They're on quite the streak.
With Isiah there, he's got the ego to trump Brown and ignore his wants as a coach.
With Isiah gone, Odom would be an instant target of them and our chances of
getting a deal that favors us (maybe even largely so), at least based on NYK recent
history, is purdy darned good |
What? There is NOTHING on New York's crap roster I'd trade Lamar Odom for. There's even less reason for me to cheer for Isaih to be fired. I'm perfectly happy with New York being a crap team. |
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| STiG909 wrote: | | We really don't lose that much if Lamar is not on the floor. Devean can rebound just as good as Odom and he plays better defense. It also opens the door for Cook to get more minutes. I don't think we'd tank the season just because LO isn't on the court, we definitely are a better team with him, but I think we could still make the playoffs if he wasn't around. |
No offense, but this is absolute malarky. If Devean could rebound as well as Odom, he would have done that by now. He can't rebound as well as Odom, he isn't as long as Odom to grab many of the key ones Lamar does get.
Secondly, Devean is an excellent defender, that's true, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. He isn't half the player Odom is and we absolutely WOULDN'T make the playoffs if we traded Lamar for an injured player. I'd still make that deal, though, because JO is worth it - but let's not get carried away and turn other players into things they're not. |
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| sodapoppenski wrote: | | GMWEST wrote: | | sodapoppenski wrote: | Every Laker fan should simply be rooting for Isiah to be fired ASAP.
The Knicks make tragically lopsided moves in all the wrong directions and ignore cap-space.
They're on quite the streak.
With Isiah there, he's got the ego to trump Brown and ignore his wants as a coach.
With Isiah gone, Odom would be an instant target of them and our chances of
getting a deal that favors us (maybe even largely so), at least based on NYK recent
history, is purdy darned good |
Did I MISS something, WHO on the NY roster is even any good? Considering you are so willing to give them Lamar?
The best trade with NY is NO TRADE. |
Actually I was more poking fun at the Knicks than much else.
A few days ago this came up regarding Odom for Frye.
I said at the time (and still say) that Odom for Frye & Nate Robinson at
least gets tempting, but even then I'd be hesitant to pull the trigger.
So there's your answer |
Oops. Didn't see this before I posted a response to your initial comments. I should have known. You DO love to be sarcastic on occasion. |
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