NVE's curse? Since him, we never had anything better than and average PG.

 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:18 pm    Post subject: NVE's curse? Since him, we never had anything better than and average PG.

Fish, Payton, Chucky, Smush.

Payton was a busta here.

Fish and Smush are average, and Chucky sux.


Is it Nick's curse? Will the Lakers never have a decent PG again?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:22 pm    Post subject:

Fish and smush are plenty decent.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:23 pm    Post subject:

Someone tell me why we need a superior PG in the triangle offense? triangle offense doesn't need superior PG's you just need a PG who can create for others.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:24 pm    Post subject: Re: NVE's curse? Since him, we never had anything better than and average PG.

AirKobe8 wrote:
Fish, Payton, Chucky, Smush.

Payton was a busta here.

Fish and Smush are average, and Chucky sux.


Is it Nick's curse? Will the Lakers never have a decent PG again?


Only problem was that Nicky was a crappy point himself. Heck of a shooting guard though. One point guard aspect to his game was his a/to ratio, which in his prime was very good.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:25 pm    Post subject:

Hard to find a good PG. Remember, Nicky V was a second round find by West too. I loved when we had Nick, he was always a fun player to watch and has some attitude that this Laker team could use.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:25 pm    Post subject:

West has mad skills.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:26 pm    Post subject:

Ron Harper was effective, even late in his career.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:27 pm    Post subject:

NVE was one of those diamonds that Jerry West found in a pile of lead. he was a 2nd rounder that turned into a all-star. Too bad he was a headcase. Had he kept it together he would have the rings instead of Tyronn Lue.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:30 pm    Post subject:

I thought Brian Shaw was good
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:39 pm    Post subject:

Payton averaged 15 ppg and 5 apg in the regular season with us. Those are close to all-star numbers.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:43 pm    Post subject: Re: NVE's curse? Since him, we never had anything better than and average PG.

AirKobe8 wrote:
Fish, Payton, Chucky, Smush.

Payton was a busta here.

Fish and Smush are average, and Chucky sux.


Is it Nick's curse? Will the Lakers never have a decent PG again?


I think Smush is one of the only players that Mitch found out of nothing. Even though he's not "great", I was never expecting much from Smush (until he proved that he could bring a little more than nothing to the table).

Granted, he would be much better as a back-up, he's still decent considering he started as a camp invite.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:44 pm    Post subject:

and 3 championships...NVE was good? at what? running down on a 3 on 1 and chucking up a brick from the 3 pt line?

I cheered the day NVE left Lakerland, I knew we finally had a chance to be a good playoff team.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:46 pm    Post subject:

3 championships. who cares?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:55 pm    Post subject:

qreus-76 wrote:
3 championships. who cares?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:57 pm    Post subject:

the only two bums that are really "bad" pgs are chuck and smush. fisher was decent, and payton was not THAT bad. NVE rules.....so does west.. suck it up mitch!!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:20 pm    Post subject:

NVE's curse? More like Phil Jackson's. He does not value traditional PG's skillsets.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:02 pm    Post subject:

Nick hasn't exactly had a stellar career after leaving LA. Maybe he's the one who is cursed.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:10 pm    Post subject:

Nick has definitely had his ups and downs, but not a bad career since leaving LA. He was The Man in Denver for awhile, though his team lost tons of games. He was awesome with Dallas for a few seasons. This may be his only crack at a championship but I think he's had a solid career. I've always enjoyed watching his competetiveness though.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:44 pm    Post subject:

3 championships in under a decade since NVE.

What a curse!

Certain franchises have a penchant for certain positions or styles.

You associate the Pistons with defense for instance.

The Jazz with white guys...

Seriously though, PG's have just never been a high priority for us.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:42 pm    Post subject:

The Lakers have a rich history at every position, except power foward. We've had some pretty good points: Slater Martin, Jerry West, Majic Johnson (All Hall of Famers), Norm Nixon (All Star), Sedale Threatt (underappreciated). It's just under the Jackson era that point gaurds are not a priority.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:56 pm    Post subject:

Nick The Quick was my 2nd favorite Laker while he was with us and still is one of my favorite players. I (bleep) hate Shaq for having Nick and Eddie traded. Nick may have been a head case but Shaq was 10x worse than Nick. It could have worked out, we didn't have to get rid of NVE.
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