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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:24 am    Post subject:

I didn't watch the game but seeing from all the post, I wondered why Phil doubled down on Tim. Phil is not the type of coach to double any players ever since he lost to the Magic when MJ first return. If you don't know he year of Magic and Houston in the finals. Phil double Shaq and the Magic hit guards hit there outside shot. So seeing that Phil double on Tim makes me wonder what his philosophy is on D now. I mean if he doesn't have a set mind on what the D should be doing, do you think our players will too?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:27 am    Post subject:

Money$hot! wrote:
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The Lakers ran the offense all through the first half. 3rd quarter starts and blammo its Kobe-Hot-Dog-Time... before you know it, the team is out of rhythm on offense and defense and behind by 15. Kobe, this one is on you.

ya cuz its kobes fault odoms man hit 4 straight 3's :roll:


The replays on Ginobili's treys points towards Lamar rotating to break up dribble penetration because the team was unable to stop the ball (on 2 of the 4 treys), on the third it was Smush who didnt stop dribble penetration forcing Kobe and Lamar to collapse leaving Ginobili wide open. On the final Gino just hit a straight up trey, couldnt have been defended better.

LA's offense and defense were clicking in the first half due to good ball distribution leading to high percentage inside-out shots. The team played solid defense b/c they were involved. Kobe's hot-dog antics in the third totally broke this up leading to the Spurs stretching to an insumountable lead. Phil can only ask that his best player run the offense. If Kobe choses not to, then we end up with what we got in the second half. An out of rhythm team, and the Kobe Bryant show.

That's exactly what happened.


The lakers shot 47% as a team against one of the best defensive teams in the league. The offense was not the problem. You mean you need rhythm to defend the 3 pts line? Interesting theory.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:30 am    Post subject:

Money$hot! wrote:
The Lakers ran the offense all through the first half. 3rd quarter starts and blammo its Kobe-Hot-Dog-Time... before you know it, the team is out of rhythm on offense and defense and behind by 15. Kobe, this one is on you.


So how do you explain the 18 point second quarter? :roll: Or the fact the KB8 shot over 50% from the field?

Lay this lose on the team, not an individual player!! They are all guilty!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:10 am    Post subject:

Money$hot! wrote:
LA's offense and defense were clicking in the first half due to good ball distribution leading to high percentage inside-out shots. The team played solid defense b/c they were involved. Kobe's hot-dog antics in the third totally broke this up leading to the Spurs stretching to an insumountable lead. Phil can only ask that his best player run the offense. If Kobe choses not to, then we end up with what we got in the second half. An out of rhythm team, and the Kobe Bryant show.


The problem is that it looks like Kobe has very little confidence in his teammates, and against a team like the Spurs as soon as LA fell behind by 4 points in the second half, it looked like Kobe was worried and tried to manufacture some offense to keep it close. That resulted in a couple bad possessions, and it was the perfectly wrong time because that's when Manu hit all those threes on the other end and the defecit quickly ballooned to 15 or so.

When Kobe does that, he's gambling that he'll be able to be in "the zone" at that point. If he is "in the zone" then he'll be able to single-handedly carry the Lakers and probably lead them to a win. If he's not though, it'll result in a lot of bad shots and empty trips and can quickly put the game out of reach. The Lakers were able to hang with the Spurs in the first half through good team play, but they got whipped in the second half because it all fell apart. When Kobe was trying to take over, you could see the defeated and scared look on the faces of his teammates, so maybe he was right to give it a shot. Sooner or later though the Lakers are gonna have to play consistent team ball if they're going to win with consistency. The Lakers aren't going to win anything solely behind Kobe's strong offensive performances. Not against good teams, anyway.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:09 pm    Post subject:

Three problems last night:

1. Phil didn't make the adjustment to start kwame on Duncan in the second half.

2. After the first few misses, the Lakers stopped running the offense. Tried to do too many isos which led to turnovers which led to points for SA.

3. They stopped rotating on defense.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:11 pm    Post subject:

Walter Sobchak wrote:
Money$hot! wrote:
LA's offense and defense were clicking in the first half due to good ball distribution leading to high percentage inside-out shots. The team played solid defense b/c they were involved. Kobe's hot-dog antics in the third totally broke this up leading to the Spurs stretching to an insumountable lead. Phil can only ask that his best player run the offense. If Kobe choses not to, then we end up with what we got in the second half. An out of rhythm team, and the Kobe Bryant show.


The problem is that it looks like Kobe has very little confidence in his teammates, and against a team like the Spurs as soon as LA fell behind by 4 points in the second half, it looked like Kobe was worried and tried to manufacture some offense to keep it close. That resulted in a couple bad possessions, and it was the perfectly wrong time because that's when Manu hit all those threes on the other end and the defecit quickly ballooned to 15 or so.

When Kobe does that, he's gambling that he'll be able to be in "the zone" at that point. If he is "in the zone" then he'll be able to single-handedly carry the Lakers and probably lead them to a win. If he's not though, it'll result in a lot of bad shots and empty trips and can quickly put the game out of reach. The Lakers were able to hang with the Spurs in the first half through good team play, but they got whipped in the second half because it all fell apart. When Kobe was trying to take over, you could see the defeated and scared look on the faces of his teammates, so maybe he was right to give it a shot. Sooner or later though the Lakers are gonna have to play consistent team ball if they're going to win with consistency. The Lakers aren't going to win anything solely behind Kobe's strong offensive performances. Not against good teams, anyway.
The whole 'no confidence' in his team excuse is no longer valid, imo, and should have gone out the window with the way they played vs detroit and in the first half vs SA. they were playing fine. They need to continue to be disciplined and run the offense, or we are going to remain the same mediocre team we are at present.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:37 pm    Post subject:

I cant for the world, understand why Luke played so many minutes?..If kwame kept out of the paint, why not play him more? Why not adjust the team defensively? If the players cant see something on the court, certainly the coaches, on the becnh should see it and direct it to their players....right?
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