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Karmaloop
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| Jim99187 wrote: | fans on realcavsfans are so dellusional
| Quote: | Originally Posted by Los216
Dion/Bynum/CJ/2015 1st
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Yeah, I saw that. The Jazz aren't dealing Hayward, and they're certainly not throwing in their unprotected 2014 1st for the hell of it. |
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This trade won't happen until 100 pages 
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The Shadow King
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| Jim99187 wrote: | fans on realcavsfans are so dellusional
| Quote: | Originally Posted by Los216
Dion/Bynum/CJ/2015 1st
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The Jazz think Gordon Hayward is a unicorn. They wouldn't trade him for any player not named Chris Paul, Kevin Durant or LeBron James.
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The Shadow King
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| Chronicle wrote: | | This trade won't happen until 100 pages |
110, I say.
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| Karmaloop wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | fans on realcavsfans are so dellusional
| Quote: | Originally Posted by Los216
Dion/Bynum/CJ/2015 1st
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Yeah, I saw that. The Jazz aren't dealing Hayward, and they're certainly not throwing in their unprotected 2014 1st for the hell of it. |
Cavs fans are so used to sucking that they aren't seeing the big picture. The whole point for them is to make the playoffs and start being successful before Kyrie gets sick of it all and decides to leave. They aren't going to get there continually failing at draft picks and loading up on prospects that they'll never fully develop.
Kyrie + Pau could probably make it pretty far in the East this year if they click. |
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| LakerCity wrote: | | Blade wrote: | | Coach Slick wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
All he needs to do is take the qualifying offer. Then he can get the max the following season. |
Yes, but that is a huge risk that hardly anyone has ever done. That's what, a $50-60M gamble? I forget what the max is but you are basically declining 4 years of guaranteed max salary. Has anyone ever done that? |
Has anyone ever given up an extra year and over $30m in guaranteed salary plus off-court opportunities from one of the winningest franchises in the NBA? |
Dwight Howard |
yeah thats kind've what coach slick was getting at |
You'd think a Rockets fan would see the irony.
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The Shadow King
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| Blade wrote: | | Coach Slick wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
All he needs to do is take the qualifying offer. Then he can get the max the following season. |
Yes, but that is a huge risk that hardly anyone has ever done. That's what, a $50-60M gamble? I forget what the max is but you are basically declining 4 years of guaranteed max salary. Has anyone ever done that? |
Has anyone ever given up an extra year and over $30m in guaranteed salary plus off-court opportunities from one of the winningest franchises in the NBA? |
Dwight Howard |
Completely different scenarios. Besides that, why would Kyrie Irving want to come here for a discount? Miami, I might be able to understand. But why here as things stand?
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| The Shadow King wrote: | | Blade wrote: | | Coach Slick wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
All he needs to do is take the qualifying offer. Then he can get the max the following season. |
Yes, but that is a huge risk that hardly anyone has ever done. That's what, a $50-60M gamble? I forget what the max is but you are basically declining 4 years of guaranteed max salary. Has anyone ever done that? |
Has anyone ever given up an extra year and over $30m in guaranteed salary plus off-court opportunities from one of the winningest franchises in the NBA? |
Dwight Howard |
Completely different scenarios. Besides that, why would Kyrie Irving want to come here for a discount? Miami, I might be able to understand. But why here as things stand? |
Because we are the lakers, we don't tank. |
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| The last report I posted said the Lakers are "cooling" on trading Gasol. Who knows, Mitch probably doesn't even know. |
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BennyLava
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| Cha*n wrote: | | The last report I posted said the Lakers are "cooling" on trading Gasol. Who knows, Mitch probably doesn't even know. |
How long before the trade deadline expires, does Pau go back to being Pau? I say within a week. |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | fans on realcavsfans are so dellusional
| Quote: | Originally Posted by Los216
Dion/Bynum/CJ/2015 1st
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 Anyone who thought about it for more than 2 seconds would realize 2014 lottery picks are untouchable, especially the Jazz's. |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | fans on realcavsfans are so dellusional
| Quote: | Originally Posted by Los216
Dion/Bynum/CJ/2015 1st
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Don't see what's so funny. It's not like LG is any better?
Go look at the first few pages
"Gasol for Bynum,Waiters, AND their #1 overall pick Anthony Bennett and a lottery pick or no deal!"
"Kendall Marshall reminds me of Tony Parker and Jerry West"
After the very 1st game of the season:
"Lakers not best starting 5 but possible best overall?" |
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BROW GOAT 23
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ESPN - Lakers, Cavs make progress on trade that would involve Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, according to sources
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Jim99187
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| Don Draper wrote: | | Karmaloop wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | fans on realcavsfans are so dellusional
| Quote: | Originally Posted by Los216
Dion/Bynum/CJ/2015 1st
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Hayward/Biedrins/2014 1st |
lol |
Yeah, I saw that. The Jazz aren't dealing Hayward, and they're certainly not throwing in their unprotected 2014 1st for the hell of it. |
Cavs fans are so used to sucking that they aren't seeing the big picture. The whole point for them is to make the playoffs and start being successful before Kyrie gets sick of it all and decides to leave. They aren't going to get there continually failing at draft picks and loading up on prospects that they'll never fully develop.
Kyrie + Pau could probably make it pretty far in the East this year if they click. |
all those guys are thinking Pau is done and they are doing us a favor by taking Pau's contract...
I think the lakers can have Asik/Lin any day of the week for Pau...Lakers just dont want to take that kind of salary back |
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Jim99187
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| KobeMania wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | fans on realcavsfans are so dellusional
| Quote: | Originally Posted by Los216
Dion/Bynum/CJ/2015 1st
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Hayward/Biedrins/2014 1st |
lol |
Don't see what's so funny. It's not like LG is any better?
Go look at the first few pages
"Gasol for Bynum,Waiters, AND their #1 overall pick Anthony Bennett and a lottery pick or no deal!"
"Kendall Marshall reminds me of Tony Parker and Jerry West"
After the very 1st game of the season:
"Lakers not best starting 5 but possible best overall?" |
sorry my bad ...maybe because i am new i thought people on LG were much more mature then other forums |
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Jim99187
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| LOSTON CEPTICS wrote: | | ESPN - Lakers, Cavs make progress on trade that would involve Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, according to sources |
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BROW GOAT 23
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ESPN - Lakers, Cavs make progress on trade that would involve Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, according to sources
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BROW GOAT 23
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | LOSTON CEPTICS wrote: | | ESPN - Lakers, Cavs make progress on trade that would involve Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, according to sources |
link? |
No link I receive text messages from BSPN 
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| LOSTON CEPTICS wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | LOSTON CEPTICS wrote: | | ESPN - Lakers, Cavs make progress on trade that would involve Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, according to sources |
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No link I receive text messages from BSPN |
I didn't :/ |
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I got the update from Espn too. No link or source, just what was posted above.
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I'm sure this is probably the pipe dream of the rebuild but here's what I'm hoping for:
Trade Pau/Blake/Meeks to Cleveland for Bynum/Waiters/Varajeo and a 2015 1st round pick.
Trade Kaman/Hill/Williams to Oklahoma for Perkins and a 2014 1st round pick (from Dallas) and a 2015 1st round pick.
OKC and Cleveland beef up for the playoff runs and get some salary for next year off their books. Meanwhile, we set ourselves up nicely to tank for the 2014 draft, while picking up some major assets. Even though we won't sign any major 2014 free agents, we will have two expiring contracts in Varejao and Perkins, a nice young asset in Waiters, and 2 first round picks in 2015.
Now....the Lakers have the assets to try and trade for the likes of Love or Rondo next season, and they are also well positioned to sign them in free agency in 2015 (or Aldridge, or Marc Gasol). I guess the point here is that you can't just play the free agency game or just tank and hope to draft well. You have to have flexibility.
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BROW GOAT 23
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| ahaider wrote: | | LOSTON CEPTICS wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | LOSTON CEPTICS wrote: | | ESPN - Lakers, Cavs make progress on trade that would involve Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, according to sources |
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No link I receive text messages from BSPN |
I didn't :/ |
Guess I'm more of an insider than you...  
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| omzzzzz wrote: | I'm sure this is probably the pipe dream of the rebuild but here's what I'm hoping for:
Trade Pau/Blake/Meeks to Cleveland for Bynum/Waiters/Varajeo and a 2015 1st round pick.
Trade Kaman/Hill/Williams to Oklahoma for Perkins and a 2014 1st round pick (from Dallas) and a 2015 1st round pick.
OKC and Cleveland beef up for the playoff runs and get some salary for next year off their books. Meanwhile, we set ourselves up nicely to tank for the 2014 draft, while picking up some major assets. Even though we won't sign any major 2014 free agents, we will have two expiring contracts in Varejao and Perkins, a nice young asset in Waiters, and 2 first round picks in 2015.
Now....the Lakers have the assets to try and trade for the likes of Love or Rondo next season, and they are also well positioned to sign them in free agency in 2015 (or Aldridge, or Marc Gasol). I guess the point here is that you can't just play the free agency game or just tank and hope to draft well. You have to have flexibility. |
Cavs want to make playoffs this year so they are not going to trade Varejao
i prefer to trade hill to Suns for 1 of their 4 1st round picks... |
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Jim99187
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| LOSTON CEPTICS wrote: | | ahaider wrote: | | LOSTON CEPTICS wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | LOSTON CEPTICS wrote: | | ESPN - Lakers, Cavs make progress on trade that would involve Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, according to sources |
link? |
No link I receive text messages from BSPN |
I didn't :/ |
Guess I'm more of an insider than you... |
they are just scared of ur avatar man...lol |
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BROW GOAT 23
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| Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 6:14 pm Post subject: You can merge. Update from BSPN Pau for Bynum trade. Progress has been made! |
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ESPN - Lakers, Cavs make progress on trade that would involve Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, according to sources
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