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| DoubleClutch wrote: | | I think we give Pau 3 years 24 mil. $10-8-6 on a declining scale. Should leave us enough for Love next summer and Durant or LBJ the following summer. I doubt he gets more money elsewhere. |
Is that possible to frontload Pau? Are there restrictions in the CBA?
I know you can frontload but I don't think you can have declining salaries.
Maybe a 2 yr $20M deal with $15M next year and $5M after.
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reliable. but Melo is going to the Bulls if he leaves the Knicks |
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| DoubleClutch wrote: | | I think we give Pau 3 years 24 mil. $10-8-6 on a declining scale. Should leave us enough for Love next summer and Durant or LBJ the following summer. I doubt he gets more money elsewhere. |
I like this idea if the numbers pencil out for adding Love and Durant the year after that as well. I'm not sold on giving Stephenson 10 million a year for a player who is shaky mentally, and a guy who seems to be over weight which with bad eating habits could ruin his athleticism within a year or two from now. I like Stepheson but not at that price.
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| Fruscas wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | Reliable?
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Melo said if the plan is to build for 2015 he can't be a part of another losing season.
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reliable. but Melo is going to the Bulls if he leaves the Knicks |
If he wants to go to the Bulls(and not here), then we should help facilitate that and take on Boozer and get Chicago's 1st rounder. Rose/Melo/Noah with Thibs? Probably the favorites to win the East, at least.
We could come out with one of Exum/Wiggins/Embiid/Parker/Smart/Gordon + LaVine. I'd take one year of Boozer for that.
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| USCandLakers wrote: | | Fruscas wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | Reliable?
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Melo said if the plan is to build for 2015 he can't be a part of another losing season.
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reliable. but Melo is going to the Bulls if he leaves the Knicks |
If he wants to go to the Bulls(and not here), then we should help facilitate that and take on Boozer and get Chicago's 1st rounder. Rose/Melo/Noah with Thibs? Probably the favorites to win the East, at least.
We could come out with one of Exum/Wiggins/Embiid/Parker/Smart/Gordon + LaVine. I'd take one year of Boozer for that. |
i would do boozer/taj gibson/dunleavy/ 2 1st picks |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:25 am Post subject: |
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| KobeRe-Loaded wrote: | | DoubleClutch wrote: | | I think we give Pau 3 years 24 mil. $10-8-6 on a declining scale. Should leave us enough for Love next summer and Durant or LBJ the following summer. I doubt he gets more money elsewhere. |
Is that possible to frontload Pau? Are there restrictions in the CBA?
I know you can frontload but I don't think you can have declining salaries.
Maybe a 2 yr $20M deal with $15M next year and $5M after. |
Just like he could get 7.5% raises from the Lakers, they can write the contract where he gets 7.5% reduction annually.
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | Fruscas wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | Reliable?
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Melo said if the plan is to build for 2015 he can't be a part of another losing season.
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reliable. but Melo is going to the Bulls if he leaves the Knicks |
If he wants to go to the Bulls(and not here), then we should help facilitate that and take on Boozer and get Chicago's 1st rounder. Rose/Melo/Noah with Thibs? Probably the favorites to win the East, at least.
We could come out with one of Exum/Wiggins/Embiid/Parker/Smart/Gordon + LaVine. I'd take one year of Boozer for that. |
i would do boozer/taj gibson/dunleavy/ 2 1st picks |
I doubt they give up two 1st round picks, and they can keep Taj. His contract is too long.
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | Fruscas wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | Reliable?
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Melo said if the plan is to build for 2015 he can't be a part of another losing season.
— Steve Popper (@StevePopper) April 17, 2014 |
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reliable. but Melo is going to the Bulls if he leaves the Knicks |
If he wants to go to the Bulls(and not here), then we should help facilitate that and take on Boozer and get Chicago's 1st rounder. Rose/Melo/Noah with Thibs? Probably the favorites to win the East, at least.
We could come out with one of Exum/Wiggins/Embiid/Parker/Smart/Gordon + LaVine. I'd take one year of Boozer for that. |
i would do boozer/taj gibson/dunleavy/ 2 1st picks |
I would shoot for that too, but doubt Bulls give up that much.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | Fruscas wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | Reliable?
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Melo said if the plan is to build for 2015 he can't be a part of another losing season.
— Steve Popper (@StevePopper) April 17, 2014 |
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reliable. but Melo is going to the Bulls if he leaves the Knicks |
If he wants to go to the Bulls(and not here), then we should help facilitate that and take on Boozer and get Chicago's 1st rounder. Rose/Melo/Noah with Thibs? Probably the favorites to win the East, at least.
We could come out with one of Exum/Wiggins/Embiid/Parker/Smart/Gordon + LaVine. I'd take one year of Boozer for that. |
i would do boozer/taj gibson/dunleavy/ 2 1st picks |
I would shoot for that too, but doubt Bulls give up that much. |
You guys already know I'm on board with this. Plus I think Boozer could contribute here as well (obviously not $17M worth, but still) |
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| USCandLakers wrote: | | Fruscas wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | Reliable?
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Melo said if the plan is to build for 2015 he can't be a part of another losing season.
— Steve Popper (@StevePopper) April 17, 2014 |
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reliable. but Melo is going to the Bulls if he leaves the Knicks |
If he wants to go to the Bulls(and not here), then we should help facilitate that and take on Boozer and get Chicago's 1st rounder. Rose/Melo/Noah with Thibs? Probably the favorites to win the East, at least.
We could come out with one of Exum/Wiggins/Embiid/Parker/Smart/Gordon + LaVine. I'd take one year of Boozer for that. |
I like who DX has going at that spot, TJ Warren. Warren and Bazemore coming off the bench and lighting it up offensively sounds good to me.
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Jim99187
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| USCandLakers wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | Fruscas wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | Reliable?
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Melo said if the plan is to build for 2015 he can't be a part of another losing season.
— Steve Popper (@StevePopper) April 17, 2014 |
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reliable. but Melo is going to the Bulls if he leaves the Knicks |
If he wants to go to the Bulls(and not here), then we should help facilitate that and take on Boozer and get Chicago's 1st rounder. Rose/Melo/Noah with Thibs? Probably the favorites to win the East, at least.
We could come out with one of Exum/Wiggins/Embiid/Parker/Smart/Gordon + LaVine. I'd take one year of Boozer for that. |
i would do boozer/taj gibson/dunleavy/ 2 1st picks |
I doubt they give up two 1st round picks, and they can keep Taj. His contract is too long. |
they won't be able to give Melo 18-20 millions if they don't clear all 3 of boozer/gibson and dunleavy |
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Gibson would be nice to have, you won't find too many good defensive PFs at $8 mil per. And if need be, he shouldn't be too difficult to trade. That is how West built the team in the early 90's, bringing in assets even at the expense of duplication. I would guess that Minny would prefer a trade of Love for Gibson and a pick over Love just walking.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:46 am Post subject: |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | Fruscas wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | Reliable?
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Melo said if the plan is to build for 2015 he can't be a part of another losing season.
— Steve Popper (@StevePopper) April 17, 2014 |
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reliable. but Melo is going to the Bulls if he leaves the Knicks |
If he wants to go to the Bulls(and not here), then we should help facilitate that and take on Boozer and get Chicago's 1st rounder. Rose/Melo/Noah with Thibs? Probably the favorites to win the East, at least.
We could come out with one of Exum/Wiggins/Embiid/Parker/Smart/Gordon + LaVine. I'd take one year of Boozer for that. |
i would do boozer/taj gibson/dunleavy/ 2 1st picks |
I doubt they give up two 1st round picks, and they can keep Taj. His contract is too long. |
they won't be able to give Melo 18-20 millions if they don't clear all 3 of boozer/gibson and dunleavy |
But that doesn't mean we have to take on all of them. They can trade Dunleavy and Taj in a separate trade, or we can do a 3 team trade where we only get Boozer.
Taj messes up plans, if we absolutely had to take him on then you don't do the deal. It's not like Taj is a bad player, they should have no problem moving him, especially if they include picks.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:47 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | KobeRe-Loaded wrote: | | DoubleClutch wrote: | | I think we give Pau 3 years 24 mil. $10-8-6 on a declining scale. Should leave us enough for Love next summer and Durant or LBJ the following summer. I doubt he gets more money elsewhere. |
Is that possible to frontload Pau? Are there restrictions in the CBA?
I know you can frontload but I don't think you can have declining salaries.
Maybe a 2 yr $20M deal with $15M next year and $5M after. |
Just like he could get 7.5% raises from the Lakers, they can write the contract where he gets 7.5% reduction annually. |
7.5% reductions won't do much if you are starting at $10M per based on the sample above. You need more like 20-25% reductions.
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| I would only do that Chicago deal if they give us two picks. If we do that we're basically taking ourselves out of the Stephenson race, Bledsoe, Monroe, Lowry, etc. |
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| USCandLakers wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | Fruscas wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | Reliable?
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Melo said if the plan is to build for 2015 he can't be a part of another losing season.
— Steve Popper (@StevePopper) April 17, 2014 |
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reliable. but Melo is going to the Bulls if he leaves the Knicks |
If he wants to go to the Bulls(and not here), then we should help facilitate that and take on Boozer and get Chicago's 1st rounder. Rose/Melo/Noah with Thibs? Probably the favorites to win the East, at least.
We could come out with one of Exum/Wiggins/Embiid/Parker/Smart/Gordon + LaVine. I'd take one year of Boozer for that. |
i would do boozer/taj gibson/dunleavy/ 2 1st picks |
I doubt they give up two 1st round picks, and they can keep Taj. His contract is too long. |
they won't be able to give Melo 18-20 millions if they don't clear all 3 of boozer/gibson and dunleavy |
But that doesn't mean we have to take on all of them. They can trade Dunleavy and Taj in a separate trade, or we can do a 3 team trade where we only get Boozer.
Taj messes up plans, if we absolutely had to take him on then you don't do the deal. It's not like Taj is a bad player, they should have no problem moving him, especially if they include picks. |
have you watched gibson play really? he is 1 of the up and coming PF's in this league. can defend the best of them and just has motor better then J Hill.
if we have Gibson I would go sign different pieces rather then going after Love.
he is very young and his contract will be the best production wise |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | Fruscas wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | Reliable?
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Melo said if the plan is to build for 2015 he can't be a part of another losing season.
— Steve Popper (@StevePopper) April 17, 2014 |
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reliable. but Melo is going to the Bulls if he leaves the Knicks |
If he wants to go to the Bulls(and not here), then we should help facilitate that and take on Boozer and get Chicago's 1st rounder. Rose/Melo/Noah with Thibs? Probably the favorites to win the East, at least.
We could come out with one of Exum/Wiggins/Embiid/Parker/Smart/Gordon + LaVine. I'd take one year of Boozer for that. |
i would do boozer/taj gibson/dunleavy/ 2 1st picks |
I doubt they give up two 1st round picks, and they can keep Taj. His contract is too long. |
they won't be able to give Melo 18-20 millions if they don't clear all 3 of boozer/gibson and dunleavy |
But that doesn't mean we have to take on all of them. They can trade Dunleavy and Taj in a separate trade, or we can do a 3 team trade where we only get Boozer.
Taj messes up plans, if we absolutely had to take him on then you don't do the deal. It's not like Taj is a bad player, they should have no problem moving him, especially if they include picks. |
have you watched gibson play really? he is 1 of the up and coming PF's in this league. can defend the best of them and just has motor better then J Hill.
if we have Gibson I would go sign different pieces rather then going after Love.
he is very young and his contract will be the best production wise |
I like Taj but that is a pretty insane statement. Love is a top 10 player in the NBA and Gibson is a role player. |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | USCandLakers wrote: | | Fruscas wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | Reliable?
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Melo said if the plan is to build for 2015 he can't be a part of another losing season.
— Steve Popper (@StevePopper) April 17, 2014 |
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reliable. but Melo is going to the Bulls if he leaves the Knicks |
If he wants to go to the Bulls(and not here), then we should help facilitate that and take on Boozer and get Chicago's 1st rounder. Rose/Melo/Noah with Thibs? Probably the favorites to win the East, at least.
We could come out with one of Exum/Wiggins/Embiid/Parker/Smart/Gordon + LaVine. I'd take one year of Boozer for that. |
i would do boozer/taj gibson/dunleavy/ 2 1st picks |
I doubt they give up two 1st round picks, and they can keep Taj. His contract is too long. |
they won't be able to give Melo 18-20 millions if they don't clear all 3 of boozer/gibson and dunleavy |
But that doesn't mean we have to take on all of them. They can trade Dunleavy and Taj in a separate trade, or we can do a 3 team trade where we only get Boozer.
Taj messes up plans, if we absolutely had to take him on then you don't do the deal. It's not like Taj is a bad player, they should have no problem moving him, especially if they include picks. |
have you watched gibson play really? he is 1 of the up and coming PF's in this league. can defend the best of them and just has motor better then J Hill.
if we have Gibson I would go sign different pieces rather then going after Love.
he is very young and his contract will be the best production wise |
And that's why the Bulls won't get rid of him |
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| USCandLakers wrote: | | Fruscas wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | Reliable?
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Melo said if the plan is to build for 2015 he can't be a part of another losing season.
— Steve Popper (@StevePopper) April 17, 2014 |
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reliable. but Melo is going to the Bulls if he leaves the Knicks |
If he wants to go to the Bulls(and not here), then we should help facilitate that and take on Boozer and get Chicago's 1st rounder. Rose/Melo/Noah with Thibs? Probably the favorites to win the East, at least.
We could come out with one of Exum/Wiggins/Embiid/Parker/Smart/Gordon + LaVine. I'd take one year of Boozer for that. |
I like this idea. Although, i would like Payne with Chicago's pick. |
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Would love if the Lakers got Payne.
I'm an MSU fan, and may be a little bias, but Payne has all the tools to be a very good NBA player. The one thing hurting him is he is a Senior. If this kid was a Sophomore, he would be a guaranteed top 10 pick.
Can shoot it as good as any big entering the draft, and has superior athleticism. Great kid too. |
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| I don't think taking on Boozer is worth 1 or 2 1st round picks. I'd take Boozer on a 1 year deal though if he is amnestied this summer. |
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| Mini Mamba wrote: | | I don't think taking on Boozer is worth 1 or 2 1st round picks. I'd take Boozer on a 1 year deal though if he is amnestied this summer. |
Boozer is on a one-year deal.
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| If we take on Boozer's contract and get a pick it may be interesting, but that said, Chicago only does that if Melo commits. |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Mini Mamba wrote: | | I don't think taking on Boozer is worth 1 or 2 1st round picks. I'd take Boozer on a 1 year deal though if he is amnestied this summer. |
Boozer is on a one-year deal. |
I know that he is but if we trade for him we wouldn't have much cap space to sign other free agents this summer. |
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I think Melo runs away from NY to either Chicago or Houston. I think Chicago is more appealing for many reasons beyond Houston.
The primary reason is the Eastern Conference is that weak that he will have a much much easier route to the Finals
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