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Jeggs Star Player
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:28 pm Post subject: Joe Johnson is the best SG in the post season. |
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Let it be written in stone: Joe Johnson is absolutely better than James Harden. I've been impressed with his play as of late. He is quietly playing at a top 5 caliber player level. His efficiency in game 1 is incredible. Another possible torch bearer? You betcah
Oh and a little twist: Joe Johnson is better than Wade.
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jonnybravo Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Lol. So it begins . |
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Joe Johnson will have a better career than JH. |
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Treble Clef Franchise Player
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Okay. |
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Joe Johnson not best sg...possible best overall? |
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Jeggs Star Player
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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jonnybravo wrote: | Lol. So it begins . |
Yes...the Joe Johnson era...may his reign be long and true...until Kobe gets back |
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LandsbergerRules Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Joe Johnson and Paul George are passing the torch back and forth to each other imo. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him |
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Treble Clef Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Time for Joe Johnson to pass Paul George's torch to LaMarcus Aldridge. |
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Monta Ellis is better than Harden. Not sure about Joe. _________________ Kobe |
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67ShelbyGT Star Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:13 am Post subject: |
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Choke city!
Love talking to Houston fans that talk themselves to believe this year will be different. This year Harden will stop choking in playoffs you watch they say...
Add the clutch play to his stellar shutdown D? The best SG in the game!
Joe was always more talented. Take the euro travel and ref help away and what does Harden have left? Joe's got an old school game. Footwork and skills. It's not exciting for Stern, er silver. _________________ Alltime lineup: Magic | Kobe | MJ | Hakeem | KAJ |
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Superboy is better than Jeggs. |
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Romano338 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:38 am Post subject: |
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On career, they are incredibly close:
Johnson / Harden
Points: 17.5 / 18
%FG: 44.3 / 44.5
% 3-pts: 37.2 / 36.9
Rebounds: 4.0 / 4.0
Assists: 4.2 / 3.9
Harden plays a bit less and is a bit better in steals and FT. Johnson losses a bit less the ball and does a bit less fouls. Johnson shoots more than Harden who has more FTs.
A major difference is that Harden is going up while Johnson is going down. 4 years under 20 points a game while being the supposed main scorer. |
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Chronicle Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:04 am Post subject: |
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^A major difference is that Harden plays zero defense. _________________ Kobe |
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SGV-Laker fan Star Player
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comparing Joe Johnson vs Harden is like comparing Kobe and LeBron (pre-Miami). not saying Joe Johnson is at Kobe's level but both of them are very skilled big guards who can play on the perimeter and in the post, both have good fundamentals and are good shooters. Harden right now is just playing to draw fouls, his outside shots is too inconsistent to be consider his primary weapon. without the whistles, Harden is not even on the same level as Monte Ellis. the most shocking thing about Harden is he has great size for a SG and good athleticism, but he does not use those attributes on defense. it's sad that we can all say Dwight Howard showed more heart and clutch than Harden in that game 1 loss. |
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Stephenson is better than Harden. _________________ "Now, if life is coffee, then the jobs, money & position in society are the cups. They are just tools to hold & contain life, but the quality of life doesn't change. Sometimes, by concentrating only on the cup, we fail to enjoy the coffee in it." |
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Has Joe Johnson received Kobe's torch from Paul George? Joe Johnson > LeBron |
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Moses Star Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:58 am Post subject: |
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Romano338 wrote: | On career, they are incredibly close:
Johnson / Harden
Points: 17.5 / 18
%FG: 44.3 / 44.5
% 3-pts: 37.2 / 36.9
Rebounds: 4.0 / 4.0
Assists: 4.2 / 3.9
Harden plays a bit less and is a bit better in steals and FT. Johnson losses a bit less the ball and does a bit less fouls. Johnson shoots more than Harden who has more FTs.
A major difference is that Harden is going up while Johnson is going down. 4 years under 20 points a game while being the supposed main scorer. |
You would think that JJ being 6'7 and occasionally playing SF, he'd be better than a 4 per game rebounder...
I would also point out that Harden's 3.9 dimes a game for his career isn't indicative of who he is right now, as he's droppped 5.8 & 6.1 respectively the last 2 years, while at the same time dropping back to back seasons of 25 PPG, a feat which JJ has only accomplished once in his career.
For my money, Harden is the better player, even if he is something of a manufactured superstar. _________________ Lakers, Chargers, Dodgers, Arsenal FC.
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:00 am Post subject: |
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K0b3Bry4nT wrote: | Has Joe Johnson received Kobe's torch from Paul George? Joe Johnson > LeBron |
Damian Lillard is going to steal it before it gets into Paul George's hands.....you watch. |
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Harden plays little defense, so it is hard to say he is better than those that do. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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SuperboyReformed Star Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:27 am Post subject: |
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SGV-Laker fan wrote: | comparing Joe Johnson vs Harden is like comparing Kobe and LeBron (pre-Miami). not saying Joe Johnson is at Kobe's level but both of them are very skilled big guards who can play on the perimeter and in the post, both have good fundamentals and are good shooters. Harden right now is just playing to draw fouls, his outside shots is too inconsistent to be consider his primary weapon. without the whistles, Harden is not even on the same level as Monte Ellis. the most shocking thing about Harden is he has great size for a SG and good athleticism, but he does not use those attributes on defense. it's sad that we can all say Dwight Howard showed more heart and clutch than Harden in that game 1 loss. |
exactly. Harden is very overrated. He and Lebron are in the same category that way. |
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CBaller8 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:27 am Post subject: |
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Moses wrote: | Romano338 wrote: | On career, they are incredibly close:
Johnson / Harden
Points: 17.5 / 18
%FG: 44.3 / 44.5
% 3-pts: 37.2 / 36.9
Rebounds: 4.0 / 4.0
Assists: 4.2 / 3.9
Harden plays a bit less and is a bit better in steals and FT. Johnson losses a bit less the ball and does a bit less fouls. Johnson shoots more than Harden who has more FTs.
A major difference is that Harden is going up while Johnson is going down. 4 years under 20 points a game while being the supposed main scorer. |
You would think that JJ being 6'7 and occasionally playing SF, he'd be better than a 4 per game rebounder...
I would also point out that Harden's 3.9 dimes a game for his career isn't indicative of who he is right now, as he's droppped 5.8 & 6.1 respectively the last 2 years, while at the same time dropping back to back seasons of 25 PPG, a feat which JJ has only accomplished once in his career.
For my money, Harden is the better player, even if he is something of a manufactured superstar. |
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:34 am Post subject: |
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CBaller8 wrote: | Moses wrote: | Romano338 wrote: | On career, they are incredibly close:
Johnson / Harden
Points: 17.5 / 18
%FG: 44.3 / 44.5
% 3-pts: 37.2 / 36.9
Rebounds: 4.0 / 4.0
Assists: 4.2 / 3.9
Harden plays a bit less and is a bit better in steals and FT. Johnson losses a bit less the ball and does a bit less fouls. Johnson shoots more than Harden who has more FTs.
A major difference is that Harden is going up while Johnson is going down. 4 years under 20 points a game while being the supposed main scorer. |
You would think that JJ being 6'7 and occasionally playing SF, he'd be better than a 4 per game rebounder...
I would also point out that Harden's 3.9 dimes a game for his career isn't indicative of who he is right now, as he's droppped 5.8 & 6.1 respectively the last 2 years, while at the same time dropping back to back seasons of 25 PPG, a feat which JJ has only accomplished once in his career.
For my money, Harden is the better player, even if he is something of a manufactured superstar. |
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Chronicle wrote: | Monta Ellis is better than Harden. Not sure about Joe. |
You've got to be kidding. Harden might have his problems with D, but he looks like Walt Frasier compared to Monta--OK exaggeration, but you get the point.
Monta Ellis?
Here are his playoff numbers: 9.8/2.5/2.1 shooting .397 and .133 from the 3, with an Ast/TO of .96, and with negative win shares. _________________ "A metronome keeps time by using a Ringo" |
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Man, 8 months ago, you guys said Joe Johnson was garbage. _________________ (❍ᴥ❍ʋ) ʕʘᴥʘʔ (⌐ ͡■ ͜ʖ ͡■) (┛◉Д◉)┛( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ༼;´༎ຶ ༎ຶ༽ |
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