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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:00 pm    Post subject:

Pretty sure Randolph is going 4th or 5th.

Wiggins,, Embidd and Parker are a lock to be top 3 IMO.

Depending on workouts, it will be Exum or Randolph at 4. The other guy at 5.

At 6,.right now it looks like Smart is the guy but again, a lot will depend on the workouts.
I think Dario Saric is thr guy who will climb up a few spots in workouts.

We really shot ourselves in foot by winning some of those last few guys.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:05 pm    Post subject:

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Pretty sure Randolph is going 4th or 5th.

Wiggins,, Embidd and Parker are a lock to be top 3 IMO.

Depending on workouts, it will be Exum or Randolph at 4. The other guy at 5.

At 6,.right now it looks like Smart is the guy but again, a lot will depend on the workouts.
I think Dario Saric is thr guy who will climb up a few spots in workouts.

We really shot ourselves in foot by winning some of those last few guys.


I do believe one of Randle/Smart/Exum will be there at number 6, which would be good value imo.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:10 pm    Post subject:

Lol, I meant Randle there, not Randolph. I like Smart and wouldn't mind to draft him but if it's not a top 5 pick, I'd rather trade it honestly.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:15 pm    Post subject:

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Lol, I meant Randle there, not Randolph. I like Smart and wouldn't mind to draft him but if it's not a top 5 pick, I'd rather trade it honestly.


same. Marcus Smart is the only guy outside the top 5 players who im really intrigued in. but, lots of PGs will be available in free agency in the next couple years ; and forever because the league is saturated w/ PGs. so, id rather just trade the pick if its outside top 5.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:15 pm    Post subject:

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Carl Landry, Donte Greene, Glen Davis


The bolded might be his ceiling.


that too after 2-3 yrs in the NBA. so we will be wasting all this time to find out this guy Randle is Glen Davis....lol


Davis never had Randle's motor or quickness.


How about Michael Sweetney? Before he got fat.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:29 am    Post subject:

Any similarities to brand for randle. We all say zbo but could he be a Elton type career
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:31 am    Post subject:

Are people seriously comparing Randle to Big Baby? Have people seen Randle in dunk contests? You think Big Baby can do that without causing a minor earthquake?

Randle = Zach Randolph with more athleticism.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:20 am    Post subject:

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Are people seriously comparing Randle to Big Baby? Have people seen Randle in dunk contests? You think Big Baby can do that without causing a minor earthquake?

Randle = Zach Randolph with more athleticism.


Most likely, somewhere inbetween.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:59 am    Post subject:

pjiddy wrote:
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Carl Landry, Donte Greene, Glen Davis


The bolded might be his ceiling.


that too after 2-3 yrs in the NBA. so we will be wasting all this time to find out this guy Randle is Glen Davis....lol


Davis never had Randle's motor or quickness.


How about Michael Sweetney? Before he got fat.


Sweetney never had quickness, speed, hops, or motor.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:12 am    Post subject:

I'd be shocked, if Randle isn't in the Top-4, teams would be taking a huge risk, sleeping on him, just think about how long it took Bynum to develop his offensive game..... Randle would already have his offensive arsenal once he enters the league.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:01 am    Post subject:

LakersNewEra wrote:
Pretty sure Randolph is going 4th or 5th.

Wiggins,, Embidd and Parker are a lock to be top 3 IMO.

Depending on workouts, it will be Exum or Randolph at 4. The other guy at 5.

At 6,.right now it looks like Smart is the guy but again, a lot will depend on the workouts.
I think Dario Saric is thr guy who will climb up a few spots in workouts.

We really shot ourselves in foot by winning some of those last few guys.


how? this draft is about the top 3 and last I checked we'd still need to have won the lottery. sure we'd be at ~35% rather than 20% but at the end of the day it woulda still taken getting lucky.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:18 am    Post subject:

cKPayasoLoco wrote:
Any similarities to brand for randle. We all say zbo but could he be a Elton type career


why do people keep comparing him to guys with wingspans well above 7'2"? the only succesful PFs with Randle alligator arms are David Lee, Blake Griffin, and Kevin Love. they are the only PFs without wingspans well above 7 feet that have been successful.

I don't see his game as similar to any of them, which is why I think he'll be a bust.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:20 am    Post subject:

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I'd be shocked, if Randle isn't in the Top-4, teams would be taking a huge risk, sleeping on him, just think about how long it took Bynum to develop his offensive game..... Randle would already have his offensive arsenal once he enters the league.


who cares about his arsenal if he can't score over people. sorry guys but PFs with his physical attributes simply don't work out. the ones that have are freaks like Blake Griffin or super skilled perimeter shooters like Love.

other than that, we have no precedent for a decent athlete who game is based on power at the basket at his size being successful.

Randle has the highest bust potential of anyone in the top 10.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:24 am    Post subject:

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K0BEE 2.0 wrote:
I'd be shocked, if Randle isn't in the Top-4, teams would be taking a huge risk, sleeping on him, just think about how long it took Bynum to develop his offensive game..... Randle would already have his offensive arsenal once he enters the league.


who cares about his arsenal if he can't score over people. sorry guys but PFs with his physical attributes simply don't work out. the ones that have are freaks like Blake Griffin or super skilled perimeter shooters like Love.

other than that, we have no precedent for a decent athlete who game is based on power at the basket at his size being successful.

Randle has the highest bust potential of anyone in the top 10.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:29 am    Post subject:

cKPayasoLoco wrote:
Any similarities to brand for randle. We all say zbo but could he be a Elton type career


Brand has long arms and "high shoulders" (distance from top of head to top of shoulders is smaller than most), so despite being 6-8, he measured out with a typical standing reach for a 7 footer.

BTW, Brand is a name to keep in mind for bargain bench help inside.
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24 wrote:
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Any similarities to brand for randle. We all say zbo but could he be a Elton type career


Brand has long arms and "high shoulders" (distance from top of head to top of shoulders is smaller than most), so despite being 6-8, he measured out with a typical standing reach for a 7 footer.

BTW, Brand is a name to keep in mind for bargain bench help inside.


Would love Brand to be a Laker. I'm sure he would love to be back in LA too. But based on his play, he may be at the MMLE range or slightly lower? So 2.5-3m range?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:38 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
24 wrote:
cKPayasoLoco wrote:
Any similarities to brand for randle. We all say zbo but could he be a Elton type career


Brand has long arms and "high shoulders" (distance from top of head to top of shoulders is smaller than most), so despite being 6-8, he measured out with a typical standing reach for a 7 footer.

BTW, Brand is a name to keep in mind for bargain bench help inside.


Would love Brand to be a Laker. I'm sure he would love to be back in LA too. But based on his play, he may be at the MMLE range or slightly lower? So 2.5-3m range?


2-4 is the range I have him at.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:55 am    Post subject:

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I'd be shocked, if Randle isn't in the Top-4, teams would be taking a huge risk, sleeping on him, just think about how long it took Bynum to develop his offensive game..... Randle would already have his offensive arsenal once he enters the league.


who cares about his arsenal if he can't score over people. sorry guys but PFs with his physical attributes simply don't work out. the ones that have are freaks like Blake Griffin or super skilled perimeter shooters like Love.

other than that, we have no precedent for a decent athlete who game is based on power at the basket at his size being successful.

Randle has the highest bust potential of anyone in the top 10.


zach randolph


Randolph as huge arms but Randle is much more athletic IMO.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:19 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
24 wrote:
cKPayasoLoco wrote:
Any similarities to brand for randle. We all say zbo but could he be a Elton type career


Brand has long arms and "high shoulders" (distance from top of head to top of shoulders is smaller than most), so despite being 6-8, he measured out with a typical standing reach for a 7 footer.

BTW, Brand is a name to keep in mind for bargain bench help inside.


Would love Brand to be a Laker. I'm sure he would love to be back in LA too. But based on his play, he may be at the MMLE range or slightly lower? So 2.5-3m range?


Brand is a good name. Serviceable at both PF and C but not worth $4M.

I rather offer $4-5M to Spencer Hawes and see if he wants to take it.
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yinoma2001 wrote:
24 wrote:
cKPayasoLoco wrote:
Any similarities to brand for randle. We all say zbo but could he be a Elton type career


Brand has long arms and "high shoulders" (distance from top of head to top of shoulders is smaller than most), so despite being 6-8, he measured out with a typical standing reach for a 7 footer.

BTW, Brand is a name to keep in mind for bargain bench help inside.


Would love Brand to be a Laker. I'm sure he would love to be back in LA too. But based on his play, he may be at the MMLE range or slightly lower? So 2.5-3m range?


Brand is a good name. Serviceable at both PF and C but not worth $4M.

I rather offer $4-5M to Spencer Hawes and see if he wants to take it.


Hawes makes what, $6m now? He's probably looking in the $7-8m range.
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yinoma2001 wrote:
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yinoma2001 wrote:
24 wrote:
cKPayasoLoco wrote:
Any similarities to brand for randle. We all say zbo but could he be a Elton type career


Brand has long arms and "high shoulders" (distance from top of head to top of shoulders is smaller than most), so despite being 6-8, he measured out with a typical standing reach for a 7 footer.

BTW, Brand is a name to keep in mind for bargain bench help inside.


Would love Brand to be a Laker. I'm sure he would love to be back in LA too. But based on his play, he may be at the MMLE range or slightly lower? So 2.5-3m range?


Brand is a good name. Serviceable at both PF and C but not worth $4M.

I rather offer $4-5M to Spencer Hawes and see if he wants to take it.


Hawes makes what, $6m now? He's probably looking in the $7-8m range.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:09 am    Post subject:

Starting to like the idea of getting Noah Vonleh at #6

Watching video of him the kid plays "smart". Hands up all the time on defense, very controlled game, runs the floor well.

Top it off w/freakish length and size.
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KobeRe-Loaded wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
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24 wrote:
cKPayasoLoco wrote:
Any similarities to brand for randle. We all say zbo but could he be a Elton type career


Brand has long arms and "high shoulders" (distance from top of head to top of shoulders is smaller than most), so despite being 6-8, he measured out with a typical standing reach for a 7 footer.

BTW, Brand is a name to keep in mind for bargain bench help inside.


Would love Brand to be a Laker. I'm sure he would love to be back in LA too. But based on his play, he may be at the MMLE range or slightly lower? So 2.5-3m range?


Brand is a good name. Serviceable at both PF and C but not worth $4M.

I rather offer $4-5M to Spencer Hawes and see if he wants to take it.


Hawes makes what, $6m now? He's probably looking in the $7-8m range.


Pay cut happens.


Yeah, tell that to a player in his prime.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:13 am    Post subject:

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I'd be shocked, if Randle isn't in the Top-4, teams would be taking a huge risk, sleeping on him, just think about how long it took Bynum to develop his offensive game..... Randle would already have his offensive arsenal once he enters the league.


who cares about his arsenal if he can't score over people. sorry guys but PFs with his physical attributes simply don't work out. the ones that have are freaks like Blake Griffin or super skilled perimeter shooters like Love.

other than that, we have no precedent for a decent athlete who game is based on power at the basket at his size being successful.

Randle has the highest bust potential of anyone in the top 10.


zach randolph


zach randolph has a killer mid-range jumper randle doesn't have AND most importantly he has freakishly long arms.

once again there is no precedence of a guy with arms as short as Randle having success in this league.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:15 am    Post subject:

KobeRe-Loaded wrote:
Starting to like the idea of getting Noah Vonleh at #6

Watching video of him the kid plays "smart". Hands up all the time on defense, very controlled game, runs the floor well.

Top it off w/freakish length and size.


if smart is off the board as well as the big 3, i'd consider him.

my top 7 right now is:

1. Embiid
2. Wiggins
3. Exum
4. Parker
5. Smart
6. Gordon
7. Vonleh

I'd be happy with any of these 7. I think they'll all be all-stars or close to it. With most also being top defensive players as well. This class is loaded at the top.
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