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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:50 pm    Post subject: Kobe, Randle and Lin, our big 3

Looks like it.

A legend coming off of a career threatening injury.
A rookie
A.player with great potential and marketability but merely average so far in his career.

How much can we expect from this big 3?
I do expect Kobe to be healthy and averaging like 22-5-5
I do expect Randle to perhaps win ROY averaging like 15/9
And I do expect Lin to grow into a good 2nd optiob for us. He will average 15/5 minimum IMO.

Not an awful big 3 if you ask me. Certainly a huge improvement over last year.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:53 pm    Post subject:

Your expectations are way too high
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:55 pm    Post subject:

I think we will have one of those seasons where it will be fun to watch, but nothing championship worthy. Glad our guys are getting younger though.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:55 pm    Post subject:

Romano338 wrote:
Your expectations are way too high


Hmmm, don't see it personally. Which part you see as too optimistic?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:58 pm    Post subject:

I agree with the op...I have similar expectations. I also expect hill to breakout with a larger role in the starting lineup...he may end up a top rebounder in the league. I also fully expect us to use the 2.7 mmle on Evan turner. I remember Kobe saying he was the best out of that draft class
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:03 pm    Post subject:

Romano338 wrote:
Your expectations are way too high


That's because he's a spurstalk troll pretending to be a Lakers fan and mocking us by posting deliberately stupid expectations. It's pretty easy to tell.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:04 pm    Post subject:

He derives pleasure from real lakers fans admitting how terrible our roster is. That's essentially what it boils down to. It's a round-a-bout trolling tactic.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:04 pm    Post subject:



I expect Lin ny numbers 14ppg 6ast we're not gonna have a big 3 but if we bring back Henry we should have a semi deep team. One things for
Sure we're athletic. Hill and Randle will be collecting the boards
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:05 pm    Post subject:

LakersNewEra wrote:
Romano338 wrote:
Your expectations are way too high


Hmmm, don't see it personally. Which part you see as too optimistic?


Im high on Randle and i think we will definitely see him have games where he hits those numbers, but average? No way no how, not rookie year. Id be glad to be wrong, but im just trying to be realistic. I see him getting maybe 12/7. I have feeling as a rookie adjusting to NBA speed, he will be hampered with foul trouble quite a bit this coming year.

I like the pick, but 15/9 seems a tad overly optimistic.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:05 pm    Post subject:

quixoticsyz wrote:
Romano338 wrote:
Your expectations are way too high


That's because he's a spurstalk troll pretending to be a Lakers fan and mocking us by posting deliberately stupid expectations. It's pretty easy to tell.


Paranoid much?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:06 pm    Post subject:

Car54 wrote:
http://youtu.be/XS5Wel4hX0g

I expect Lin ny numbers 14ppg 6ast we're not gonna have a big 3 but if we bring back Henry we should have a semi deep team. One things for
Sure we're athletic. Hill and Randle will be collecting the boards


Its one reason why I'd also like to bring Bazemore back. He also plays hard and with great energy. With Hill and Randle, we will win a lot of games on energy alone.
Offensive rebounding will be our huge strength.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:09 pm    Post subject:

quixoticsyz wrote:
Romano338 wrote:
Your expectations are way too high


That's because he's a spurstalk troll pretending to be a Lakers fan and mocking us by posting deliberately stupid expectations. It's pretty easy to tell.


Probably. They're mocking us over there.


http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237277&p=7501101#post7501101
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:10 pm    Post subject:

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LakersNewEra wrote:
Romano338 wrote:
Your expectations are way too high


Hmmm, don't see it personally. Which part you see as too optimistic?


Im high on Randle and i think we will definitely see him have games where he hits those numbers, but average? No way no how, not rookie year. Id be glad to be wrong, but im just trying to be realistic. I see him getting maybe 12/7. I have feeling as a rookie adjusting to NBA speed, he will be hampered with foul trouble quite a bit this coming year.

I like the pick, but 15/9 seems a tad overly optimistic.


12/7 is also not bad. My prediction for Randle was 15/9 before he even became a Laker. He is who I wanted and I am very high on him. Definitely see him as a candidate for ROY.

The way I see it, he is just too skilled, too strong and too quick for most PF's in the NBA.
Face up, post up, offensive rebounds, FT's..he will be unguardable..
But of course, he likely will have his ups and downs as a rookie...but I see him as a big deal from the get go.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:12 pm    Post subject:

Kobe no defense
Lin no defense,
Sacre horrible stiff
Randle ????????
Nash half dead
Hill wild inconsistent player good some night non existent on others.
Young a chucker with no defense

Tell me how many points will the Lakers give up per game this season? I say they will be last in defense, other team's FG% will sky into the 50's, and they will barely break the 89 point mark
Even if this was Kobe from 6 years ago this team would end up in bottom. This is going to be worse than the Smush years. Trust me it will be unwatchable, and Staples will have a lot of empty seats.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:26 pm    Post subject:

LoyalLakerfan44 wrote:
Kobe no defense
Lin no defense,
Sacre horrible stiff
Randle ????????
Nash half dead
Hill wild inconsistent player good some night non existent on others.
Young a chucker with no defense

Tell me how many points will the Lakers give up per game this season? I say they will be last in defense, other team's FG% will sky into the 50's, and they will barely break the 89 point mark
Even if this was Kobe from 6 years ago this team would end up in bottom. This is going to be worse than the Smush years. Trust me it will be unwatchable, and Staples will have a lot of empty seats.
Kobe in his prime that avg 35/5/5 couldn't get this team over 35 wins in this tough western conference. He would have demanded a trade if he played with this roster. He's 35 coming off of a serious injury, can't rely on him as much.

I've already accepted that this will be a 20-23 win team at best. The good that will come out of this season is watching Randle and Clarkson develop and getting a top 5 pick.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:41 pm    Post subject:

LoyalLakerfan44 wrote:
Kobe no defense
Lin no defense,
Sacre horrible stiff
Randle ????????
Nash half dead
Hill wild inconsistent player good some night non existent on others.
Young a chucker with no defense

Tell me how many points will the Lakers give up per game this season? I say they will be last in defense, other team's FG% will sky into the 50's, and they will barely break the 89 point mark
Even if this was Kobe from 6 years ago this team would end up in bottom. This is going to be worse than the Smush years. Trust me it will be unwatchable, and Staples will have a lot of empty seats.


Lin avg 1.6spg in back to back seasons.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:52 pm    Post subject:

LoyalLakerfan44 wrote:
Kobe no defense
Lin no defense,
Sacre horrible stiff
Randle ????????
Nash half dead
Hill wild inconsistent player good some night non existent on others.
Young a chucker with no defense

Tell me how many points will the Lakers give up per game this season? I say they will be last in defense, other team's FG% will sky into the 50's, and they will barely break the 89 point mark
Even if this was Kobe from 6 years ago this team would end up in bottom. This is going to be worse than the Smush years. Trust me it will be unwatchable, and Staples will have a lot of empty seats.


Thats one way of looking at it.

The way I see it though

Kobe - Still all star caliber, good enough to be a top 10 player in the league. In Princeton offense, he can also get some great shots and have a good FG %.
Randle - A beast, ROY caliber, definitely a starter quality player from the start.
Lin - Poised to break out perhaps. 15/5 at least. Great intangibles
Hill - May be a starting quality center. Great energy, if he can average 12/10, will definitely be an asset.
Young - 6th man of the year candidate, instant offense off the bench.

As for Sacre, I don't expect much and I hope Nash gets waived via stretch provision.
However, those 5 players I mentioned above are all very good assets to have.
With a few more good role players, we will definitely not be a bad team.

Hopefully we can still sign 2 good players for like $5 mil combined. A starting SF and a backup big man.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:57 pm    Post subject:

Lin is no better than Farmar. Don't expect too much
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:58 pm    Post subject:

Lin no defense???

You don't watch much Lin do you? He played Lillard probably better then anybody in the Rockets series.

If you want to bash Lin, bash his inconsistency, the fact that he is injury prone, and his turnovers. But at least base in on facts.

Lin might be the glue guy that will bring this squad to it's full potential (that doesn't mean championship contenders at all, just a decent squad). Lin is a playmaker, he is an above average scorer, he penetrates well. He'll take SOME pressure off Kobe, and might flourish with our now young, pretty athletic squad. Lin has all the tools to succeed, it really depends on how the squad rounds out when the season starts, and who the coach is.

Randle will be great, he was a draft steal IMO, Lin may very well end up being the third best player on this team.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:00 pm    Post subject:

I expect to see the old Kobe jacking up 25 shots a game since he's got no roster help to speak of now..... Just hope his legs hold out for another 2 years......
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:04 pm    Post subject:

akivisuals wrote:
I expect to see the old Kobe jacking up 25 shots a game since he's got no roster help to speak of now..... Just hope his legs hold out for another 2 years......


I remember Kobe in the Princeton offense those few games under Mike Brown. He was still healing from some injuries iirc but the game came really easy to him, he was shootinglike 60 % in those few games. Obviously a very small sample but in the right offense, things can be made much easier for him.
We won't struggle with scoring IMO. We have a lot of firepower already and we will play at a slower pace anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:07 pm    Post subject:

We aren't going to be very good, but we'll be better than last year.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:08 pm    Post subject:

Inverse wrote:
Lin is no better than Farmar. Don't expect too much


What? You're either overrating farmar or underrating Lin.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:18 pm    Post subject:

So how does this roster compare to the 2006 roster that took the number one seed to 7 games in the playoffs?

Smush vs Nash
Kobe vs Kobe
Walton vs Xavier
Odom vs Randle
Kwame vs Hill
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:20 pm    Post subject:

Aussiesuede wrote:
So how does this roster compare to the 2006 roster that took the number one seed to 7 games in the playoffs?

Smush vs Nash
Kobe vs Kobe
Walton vs Xavier
Odom vs Randle
Kwame vs Hill


2006's one is better, no question.
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