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pjiddy
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| Krispy Kreme wrote: | | nash wrote: | Nash is a retired player still been payed and listed on a roster.
Tank 2.0 all the way |
we have no lottery pick this year, right? (even if we suck). so no point in tanking imo |
Nope, just gotta have a bottom five record or luck into the lottery. Both are totally doable. |
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Jellojigglin
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Nash is a great veteran to add to this roster. I hope he can play extended minutes and help mentor Jordan Clarkson and others. He is a NBA great that would help add depth and smarts to our team all season. Not sure if he is going to be healthy enough. He has major back issues but if they are resolved he is a dangerous point guard.
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Reflexx
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Even if Nash doesn't end up playing a lot of time, it will be good for young players to see his work ethic. See him preparing. See him trying to get back on the floor. See his love for the game.
Stuff like that lets you know that you can't take the opportunities you have for granted. |
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44TheLogo
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| good veteran presence who can teach jeremy and clarkson, and i think he can give us 10-15 minutes of effective play per night. he is still one of the greatest shooters of all time so he can still be effective if only as a spotup shooter. |
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LakerLanny
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Don't bet against my man Nash in the starting lineup on opening night with Kobe at the guard positions.
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Nnamdi21
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Any chance Nash actually can play 15 - 20 mins a game?
Nash
kobe
wesley
booz
Hill
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Lin
xavier/clarkson
swaggy
Randle/kelly
Davis/Sacre
Not bad, not bad...maybe a 6th-8th seed?? |
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LakerLanny
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| Nnamdi21 wrote: | Any chance Nash actually can play 15 - 20 mins a game?
Nash
kobe
wesley
booz
Hill
with
Lin
xavier/clarkson
swaggy
Randle/kelly
Davis/Sacre
Not bad, not bad...maybe a 6th-8th seed?? |
Very interesting bench, I think Henry may start ahead of Johnson, but we shall see. I think Hill and Boozer start with Davis and Randle backing them up respectively.
I think Nash could very well start over Lin if health with Lin playing more minutes.
That is an interesting lineup because the bench could definitely do some things if the chemistry is right.
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Nnamdi21
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| LakerLanny wrote: | | Nnamdi21 wrote: | Any chance Nash actually can play 15 - 20 mins a game?
Nash
kobe
wesley
booz
Hill
with
Lin
xavier/clarkson
swaggy
Randle/kelly
Davis/Sacre
Not bad, not bad...maybe a 6th-8th seed?? |
Very interesting bench, I think Henry may start ahead of Johnson, but we shall see. I think Hill and Boozer start with Davis and Randle backing them up respectively.
I think Nash could very well start over Lin if health with Lin playing more minutes.
That is an interesting lineup because the bench could definitely do some things if the chemistry is right. |
The last part is the head coach. if he can be decent, we might be very entertaining. not contenders but playoff basketball.
There isnt much drop off from our starting lineup and bench unless kobe is in god mode at this age. And thats not a knock on our starters. the bench has some scoring options with players who can take it to the hoop. |
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nashftw
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| it's not far fetched that Nash may spend some time starting and maybe playing 15+ minutes a night on the average. i think the almost whole year layoff might even have helped bring some life back to his legs and back. hope that steve can surprise us and the league this year! |
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kinein
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Due to his nerve issues and age, I only see Nash coming off the bench. Nash has stated he is fine but he hasn't pushed himself like the regular season will.
Can his nerves withstand 82 games straight and not act-up?
Either way I hope for a lively training camp. |
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A Mad Chinaman
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| kinein wrote: | Due to his nerve issues and age, I only see Nash coming off the bench. Nash has stated he is fine but he hasn't pushed himself like the regular season will.
Can his nerves withstand 82 games straight and not act-up?
Either way I hope for a lively training camp. |
How many NBA players played all 82 games?
How many Spurs played 75+ games?
With JLin, Kobe and Swaggy P also playing in the backcourt, the need for him to play 30+ minute is not needed |
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kinein
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:43 am Post subject: |
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| A Mad Chinaman wrote: | | kinein wrote: | Due to his nerve issues and age, I only see Nash coming off the bench. Nash has stated he is fine but he hasn't pushed himself like the regular season will.
Can his nerves withstand 82 games straight and not act-up?
Either way I hope for a lively training camp. |
How many NBA players played all 82 games?
How many Spurs played 75+ games?
With JLin, Kobe and Swaggy P also playing in the backcourt, the need for him to play 30+ minute is not needed |
I agree, I see Nash as a 15-20 minute type of guy. |
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| kinein wrote: | | A Mad Chinaman wrote: | | kinein wrote: | Due to his nerve issues and age, I only see Nash coming off the bench. Nash has stated he is fine but he hasn't pushed himself like the regular season will.
Can his nerves withstand 82 games straight and not act-up?
Either way I hope for a lively training camp. |
How many NBA players played all 82 games?
How many Spurs played 75+ games?
With JLin, Kobe and Swaggy P also playing in the backcourt, the need for him to play 30+ minute is not needed |
I agree, I see Nash as a 15-20 minute type of guy. |
Same, he should be coming off the bench for starter continuity. Nash starting only 1/4 the games a year would disrupt chemistry vs. Lin probably being able to start 75+ games. |
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King beef
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:31 am Post subject: Re: The Forgotten Man -- Steve Nash |
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| LakerLanny wrote: | I know his Laker tenure has been brutal so far, but the fact is when he has played...he is still an effective player, it really is all about health with him.
If by some chance he can have a healthy season, he really is a forgotten man....am I dreaming that Nash could have a big season for us this year out of nowhere?
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When Nash plays, he plays well. That is why I hope he doesnt play. If the Lakers want a top 5 pick so they dont have to send it to Phoenix, Nash needs to be a bench warmer. |
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| Nash potatoes ? |
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A Mad Chinaman
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| TheSource666 wrote: | | kinein wrote: | | A Mad Chinaman wrote: | | kinein wrote: | Due to his nerve issues and age, I only see Nash coming off the bench. Nash has stated he is fine but he hasn't pushed himself like the regular season will.
Can his nerves withstand 82 games straight and not act-up?
Either way I hope for a lively training camp. |
How many NBA players played all 82 games?
How many Spurs played 75+ games?
With JLin, Kobe and Swaggy P also playing in the backcourt, the need for him to play 30+ minute is not needed |
I agree, I see Nash as a 15-20 minute type of guy. |
Same, he should be coming off the bench for starter continuity. Nash starting only 1/4 the games a year would disrupt chemistry vs. Lin probably being able to start 75+ games. |
JLin had injury issues last season and much younger than Nash.
Nash would not disrupt chemistry because they play the same way and JLin b can learn TO from Nash |
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| pjiddy wrote: | | Krispy Kreme wrote: | | nash wrote: | Nash is a retired player still been payed and listed on a roster.
Tank 2.0 all the way |
we have no lottery pick this year, right? (even if we suck). so no point in tanking imo |
Nope, just gotta have a bottom five record or luck into the lottery. Both are totally doable. |
Bottom 5 record doesn't mean a top 5 pick. You'd need both a terrible record AND luck on your side. |
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| kinein wrote: | | A Mad Chinaman wrote: | | kinein wrote: | Due to his nerve issues and age, I only see Nash coming off the bench. Nash has stated he is fine but he hasn't pushed himself like the regular season will.
Can his nerves withstand 82 games straight and not act-up?
Either way I hope for a lively training camp. |
How many NBA players played all 82 games?
How many Spurs played 75+ games?
With JLin, Kobe and Swaggy P also playing in the backcourt, the need for him to play 30+ minute is not needed |
I agree, I see Nash as a 15-20 minute type of guy. |
We can only hope Nash can play 15mpg on a consistent basis. I would prefer Lin start and play 30mpg.
Biggest question then becomes do the Laker rely on Clarkson to play some minutes or do they sign a cheap vet?
One of the more under-rated aspects of the Young signing is finally a decent SG to help keep Kobe's mpg down. Would be thrilled if Kobe can hover around 30mpg for the season.
Concerning the worst 5 record issue. As we saw this past season, it is tough to be that bad. Lakers were pathetic and still had multiple teams worse. Kind of shocking to me in all honesty.
Makes you realize how spoiled we are as Laker fans. Never followed the cellar dwellers so never recognized how bad you really have to be to "earn" those top draft picks. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerLanny wrote: | | Don't bet against my man Nash in the starting lineup on opening night with Kobe at the guard positions. |
By before mid season he will break down....No ifs or buts about it.
I am saving this thread Lanny for future ammo  |
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Can't think of a laker I've ever liked less than steve Nash.
Laker fans complained about "overpaying" Pau. Laker fans P&M about Kobe's extension. But the selfish Canadian went out and played 15 games, so we couldn't medically retire him. Then says he did it for the money.
How come steve Nash constantly gets a pass.
He would've still been paid for the season if we medically retired him. Plus it would've given us much needed cap flexibility this offseason. Could've offered lebron and melo 4.5 mill more a piece. Could've had the same roster as now + lance stephenson or Isaiah Thomas. Not to mention the draft picks we lost for Nash.
I can think of 9 million places the lakers could spend Nash's money more effectively. I'm convinced he is a covert operative sent from Phoenix to destroy our roster from within. Jk. But he really has hurt us.
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| kikanga wrote: | Can't think of a laker I've ever liked less than steve Nash.
Laker fans complained about "overpaying" Pau. Laker fans P&M about Kobe's extension. But the selfish Canadian went out and played 15 games, so we couldn't medically retire him. Then says he did it for the money.
How come steve Nash constantly gets a pass.
He would've still been paid for the season if we medically retired him. Plus it would've given us much needed cap flexibility this offseason. Could've offered lebron and melo 4.5 mill more a piece. Could've had the same roster as now + lance stephenson or Isaiah Thomas. Not to mention the draft picks we lost for Nash.
I can think of 9 million places the lakers could spend Nash's money more effectively. I'm convinced he is a covert operative sent from Phoenix to destroy our roster from within. Jk. But he really has hurt us. |
From Nash's history, even if he was hurting, he would still play and grit it out. From all perspectives, last year was a disaster for the entire team and that included Nash. Misfortune happens a lot in the NBA especially when you subject your body to that kind of wear and tear.
Maybe this year, if he's healthy enough, he gets to show even just 75% of the MVP form and really help the team instead of hurting it. There are just too many positives in his past that they shouldn't be dismissed by just one negative season. I say give him a chance this year and see how he helps the team in many ways. |
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Nash = distraction....can we just buy him out and tell him to go away. First if he plays, it will be very little. Second you won't be able to depend on him. Third the will he, won't he play dialogue will get old. Finally he isn't going to be very productive when he does play.
Maybe the worst Laker trade ever. |
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The Forgotten Thread!! LOL  |
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Lin definitely will start and get most of the PG playing time.
Nash has never been good on the defensive end & his age only makes things worse.
2nd or 3rd PG at best (he actually needs to retire).  |
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A Mad Chinaman
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| nashftw wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | Can't think of a laker I've ever liked less than steve Nash.
Laker fans complained about "overpaying" Pau. Laker fans P&M about Kobe's extension. But the selfish Canadian went out and played 15 games, so we couldn't medically retire him. Then says he did it for the money.
How come steve Nash constantly gets a pass.
He would've still been paid for the season if we medically retired him. Plus it would've given us much needed cap flexibility this offseason. Could've offered lebron and melo 4.5 mill more a piece. Could've had the same roster as now + lance stephenson or Isaiah Thomas. Not to mention the draft picks we lost for Nash.
I can think of 9 million places the lakers could spend Nash's money more effectively. I'm convinced he is a covert operative sent from Phoenix to destroy our roster from within. Jk. But he really has hurt us. |
From Nash's history, even if he was hurting, he would still play and grit it out. From all perspectives, last year was a disaster for the entire team and that included Nash. Misfortune happens a lot in the NBA especially when you subject your body to that kind of wear and tear.
Maybe this year, if he's healthy enough, he gets to show even just 75% of the MVP form and really help the team instead of hurting it. There are just too many positives in his past that they shouldn't be dismissed by just one negative season. I say give him a chance this year and see how he helps the team in many ways. |
Melo was not going give up $30M+
Lebron was not going to choose LA over Cleveland
Stephenson is a headache that outweighs the talent he brings
Why would we want 5'9" shoot-first PG - as talented.as he is
When things are chaotic and ever-changing, often this is when the greatest amount of injuries occur. Hopefully the roles will be more defined that will limit mishaps |
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