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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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His best comps in my opinion are Jamal Crawford and Russell Westbrook. I won't say that he will be as good as them or anything, but athleticially, size and style of play, that's the wheelhouse he is in. However, until you see him play against legit NBA players in the regular season, its really difficult to evaluate how good or bad he is.
I've notice that big men tend to play worse in summer league, but better in the regular season. The opposite tends to be true for guards. That bodes well for Randle, not so much for Clarkson. We will see though. _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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The Lakers have done very well with second round picks two years in a row. First Kelly and now Clarkson.
JC has work to do but hopefully he turns out to be a diamond in the rough.
So far he has shown potential albeit in the guard-friendly Summer League.
I am excited to see him develop but we've got to be patient because only time will tell if he is an NBA caliber talent.
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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jab wrote: | Clarkson is a steal. Better than most first rounders Ive seen this summer. Not saying he is a starter now, but he is the definition of potential. If he is a hard worker, the sky is the limit, he has all the tools. |
In Summer League action J. Clarkson proved that he is quick enough to get separation and can finish on a fairly consistent basis.
He has a smooth release on his jump shot and nabs rebounds at a decent rate.
He also has the physical tools to become a pretty good defender. |
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CBaller8 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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Poor man's Monta Ellis/Spree |
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jjww28 Sixth Man
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:19 am Post subject: |
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Rockets pick Nick Johnson, similar player, |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 4:47 am Post subject: |
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jjww28 wrote: | Rockets pick Nick Johnson, similar player, |
Yes Dennis Johnson's nephew is going to be a good baller too. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:35 am Post subject: |
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GOOD QUESTION:
Quote: | Can Jordan Clarkson Carve Out a Role with LA Lakers? |
CLARKSON (link) |
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deal Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:40 am Post subject: |
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I'm traveling ; has Clarkson signed on as a Laker ? |
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Kirby Brian Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:52 am Post subject: |
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So now Clarkson = Monta Ellis?
2 weeks ago NOBODY ever even heard of this guy, LG |
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jorkerjork Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:15 am Post subject: |
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Eh; not a big fan of Ellis, but I think Ellis was more explosive around the rim. Clarkson seems more smooth. There is a difference there. I'll also really see if Clarkson can really masquerade as a combo, because he only got 1.2 apg in summer league and frankly passed the ball like a straight-up SG for much of college. Sometimes old habits die hard. So while I admire the fluidity and ability to get to the rim, I'm still a bit of a skeptic. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:19 am Post subject: |
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KobeMania wrote: | So now Clarkson = Monta Ellis?
2 weeks ago NOBODY ever even heard of this guy, LG |
Not true, and no one said he equals Monta, so 0 for 2. He plays a similar game, he can hit the 3 pointer and can get to the rim whenever he wants. If he can defend better than Monta I will be happy. He was a converted PG at Mizzou, and had a great season last year. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Is he signed yet? |
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Laker's Fan Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Summer league is a different animal these days. Guys are still thrown together and can't be asked to learn too many sets, so in that regard you can't evaluate much. But things are much better organized, better participation and more commitment by teams to really produce quality play (there were even multiple head coaches running their teams, Blatt, Kerr, Madson ).
Clarkson in particular showed some impressive skills that should carry over. He has a high gear from free thow line to line that can generate transition opportunities. He is a good finisher, has confidence in his shot and invests in his defense. Now he has to demonstrate an intelligence to run a unit, not try to do too much and prove he can compete against NBA level talent defensively. He strikes me as a guy you would hate playing against.
Nothing is certain but he could be an absolute steal. _________________ Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Laker's Fan wrote: | Summer league is a different animal these days. Guys are still thrown together and can't be asked to learn too many sets, so in that regard you can't evaluate much. But things are much better organized, better participation and more commitment by teams to really produce quality play (there were even multiple head coaches running their teams, Blatt, Kerr, Madson ).
Clarkson in particular showed some impressive skills that should carry over. He has a high gear from free thow line to line that can generate transition opportunities. He is a good finisher, has confidence in his shot and invests in his defense. Now he has to demonstrate an intelligence to run a unit, not try to do too much and prove he can compete against NBA level talent defensively. He strikes me as a guy you would hate playing against.
Nothing is certain but he could be an absolute steal. |
Agree with everything, including the bolded. You look for skill level in the summer league, and Clarkson as well as Randle exhibited their strengths. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:38 am Post subject: |
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I didn't watch the fourth game but saw all the others.
What I felt the entire time:
Jordan Farmar has re-signed with the Lakers. He's just younger and he changed his last name.
I'm serious. Jordan (Clarkson) plays exactly like Jordan (Farmar). They move the same way and they have that same aura of urgency. It may be a year or two until he reaches the same level, but after seeing Clarkson in Summer League I am not upset about losing Farmar. _________________ Kobe |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Chronicle wrote: | I didn't watch the fourth game but saw all the others.
What I felt the entire time:
Jordan Farmar has re-signed with the Lakers. He's just younger and he changed his last name.
I'm serious. Jordan (Clarkson) plays exactly like Jordan (Farmar). They move the same way and they have that same aura of urgency. It may be a year or two until he reaches the same level, but after seeing Clarkson in Summer League I am not upset about losing Farmar. |
And he grew. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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oldschool32 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:13 am Post subject: |
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Chronicle wrote: | I didn't watch the fourth game but saw all the others.
What I felt the entire time:
Jordan Farmar has re-signed with the Lakers. He's just younger and he changed his last name.
I'm serious. Jordan (Clarkson) plays exactly like Jordan (Farmar). They move the same way and they have that same aura of urgency. It may be a year or two until he reaches the same level, but after seeing Clarkson in Summer League I am not upset about losing Farmar. |
He plays nothing like Farmar imo. _________________ "It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up."-The Greatest |
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:49 am Post subject: |
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oldschool32 wrote: | Chronicle wrote: | I didn't watch the fourth game but saw all the others.
What I felt the entire time:
Jordan Farmar has re-signed with the Lakers. He's just younger and he changed his last name.
I'm serious. Jordan (Clarkson) plays exactly like Jordan (Farmar). They move the same way and they have that same aura of urgency. It may be a year or two until he reaches the same level, but after seeing Clarkson in Summer League I am not upset about losing Farmar. |
He plays nothing like Farmar imo. |
The size difference is huge...no pun intended. Farmar can't do certain things b/c he's 6'1, while Clarkson at 6'5 can do a few more things. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Mege Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Clarkson also has an edge on Farmar when it comes to lateral movement. Farmar is an absolute blur when running in a straight line but isn't able to consistently put defenders on his hip and get around them. Clarkson is much more adept at doing this. The agility numbers on draftexpress seem to reflect this as well. |
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Super Mega Team Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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How does he compare to Bazemore right now?
And upside? |
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Rawr Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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OC Lakerfan wrote: | How does he compare to Bazemore right now?
And upside? |
Bazemore is a lot bigger and more athletic. There is not a chance in hell Clarkson can play SF, but Bazemore did sometimes. _________________ You are either in or on your way to the NBA Finals. |
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Chronicle wrote: | I didn't watch the fourth game but saw all the others.
What I felt the entire time:
Jordan Farmar has re-signed with the Lakers. He's just younger and he changed his last name.
I'm serious. Jordan (Clarkson) plays exactly like Jordan (Farmar). They move the same way and they have that same aura of urgency. It may be a year or two until he reaches the same level, but after seeing Clarkson in Summer League I am not upset about losing Farmar. |
i dont think they play similarly , but i think they move kind of similarly. they resemble each other when theyre beating their man off the dribble - they kind of keep the guy on their hip the same way. and maybe they resemble each other in other movements too. Clarkson, Farmar, and Monta are all compact athletes. they all kind of hunch their backs shooting their jumper
at the end of the day, a 6'1" player isnt an accurate comparison to a 6'5" player, tho.
im of the camp that thinks Clarkson should be a SG now.. i think he could be a good PG, but thats not the point - i just think he would have such a quickness advantage at SG,that he'd be more effective penetrating and a more effective player there. |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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I think Clarkson had an advantage at point guard with his size AND quickness.
At shooting guard, the length is negated and he just has an average first step. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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KeepItRealOrElse Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | I think Clarkson had an advantage at point guard with his size AND quickness.
At shooting guard, the length is negated and he just has an average first step. |
lol we always have a difference of opinion on where to play the combo guards.
you prefer em as big PGs, i prefer em as quick SGs.
Clarkson is def. more of a PG than a Bazemore, tho. i do think Clarkson can succeed at PG
and i actually have seen him use his size VS. PGs , so you have a point Mike
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JeezyXVII Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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any update on JC5 ? why hasnt he been signed yet ? |
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