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Drifts
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| greenfrog wrote: | | Drifts wrote: | | I've always liked Payton |
Why? He completely tanked it when he was here on the Lakers. Didn't even try defensively because he was pissed about the offense. |
I was also pissed about the offense. I think GP sorted it out with Phil.
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greenfrog
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Drifts wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | Drifts wrote: | | I've always liked Payton |
Why? He completely tanked it when he was here on the Lakers. Didn't even try defensively because he was pissed about the offense. |
I was also pissed about the offense. I think GP sorted it out with Phil. |
Then he helped Shaq and Wade get a championship two years later by actually proving he could still play good defense in the playoffs and finals. Seriously, the hell with him.
Tanking in the Finals should never be excused. |
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JeezyXVII
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| 44-25 wrote: | | ''He's an extremely disrespectful young man,'' Odom said. ``I'm not going to repeat anything he said, but he's extremely disrespectful. |
Ya, I have to agree, GP is a huge trash talker and competitor, but the sad thing is Odom lacks the mental toughness to shrug it off...this kinda stuff or one bad call could easily distract a player for the rest of the game & is exactly what GP did when he played, throw you off your game with either touch defense or talking trash. |
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JeezyXVII
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| Considering his relationship with KB, I think LA has a better shot at landing him than the Bucks. Plus, Kidd is a douche and will do something to piss him off, just like he did to PJ Carlesimo. |
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Lakerfan 4 Life
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| JeezyXVII wrote: | | Considering his relationship with KB, I think LA has a better shot at landing him than the Bucks. Plus, Kidd is a douche and will do something to piss him off, just like he did to PJ Carlesimo. |
Don't think there will be problems with Kidd and GP. They're close friends. They grew up together in Oakland. |
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Bas
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Bring him on!
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| JeezyXVII wrote: | | 44-25 wrote: | | ''He's an extremely disrespectful young man,'' Odom said. ``I'm not going to repeat anything he said, but he's extremely disrespectful. |
Ya, I have to agree, GP is a huge trash talker and competitor, but the sad thing is Odom lacks the mental toughness to shrug it off...this kinda stuff or one bad call could easily distract a player for the rest of the game & is exactly what GP did when he played, throw you off your game with either touch defense or talking trash. |
I enjoyed watching GP during his playing days. It was NBA entertainment at its best/worst when LO went after GP. Old school playing may just not translate to today's game rules - Flagrant Fouls, Political Correctness, has changed the game. This team needs experienced coaching on the bench. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | Drifts wrote: | | I've always liked Payton |
Why? He completely tanked it when he was here on the Lakers. Didn't even try defensively because he was pissed about the offense. |
Yup, he's really the reason why Kobe doesn't have 6 rings.
He never got the triangle offense, nor did he tried too hard to learn it.
That 04' finals was a massacre by a crappy but feisty Detroit team. |
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Tanlentueux
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| RVCdesigns wrote: | | 100% on board. |
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SDLakersFan
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Hell yeah I would love to see this happen. |
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madsen35
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| Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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I like it. We need an aspect of defense from our coaching staff. GP doesn't seem to be the most articulate, but he is capable of garnering respect. I'm on board.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:03 am Post subject: |
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| fadeaway3 wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | Drifts wrote: | | I've always liked Payton |
Why? He completely tanked it when he was here on the Lakers. Didn't even try defensively because he was pissed about the offense. |
Yup, he's really the reason why Kobe doesn't have 6 rings.
He never got the triangle offense, nor did he tried too hard to learn it.
That 04' finals was a massacre by a crappy but feisty Detroit team. |
That usually happens to guys at the end of their career. They're resistance to change, especially when they're been successful in a previous coaching philosophy. See Pau Gasol circa 2013. |
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Fan0Bynum17
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:20 am Post subject: |
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| Do it, Mitch. That would be (bleep) hilarious. |
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mettaElbow
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| get it done, iv heard gp doing work with many pgs , lin included, will be good for the development of him and the team in gnereal |
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kwase
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Why not?!?! What have you got to lose?!?! |
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junosiojo
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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This would be a good move if it were true.
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cgambino123
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| Lol this is ridiculous |
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cgambino123
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe he can teach our point guards defense |
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Kobe>Lebron
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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In a summer that has thus far been underwhelming, this would be a huge plus for the team and for team morale in general. Crossing my fingers that the Lakers get this one right, bring the glove onboard.
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jayd
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| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Good defensive player = good defensive coach? |
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ginia1110
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| City_Dawg wrote: | | Have assistant coaches ever been thrown out of games for talking (bleep) to opposing players? |
l: Payton would be the first then. 
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ContagiousInspiration
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:29 am Post subject: |
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A Long time back Kobe sought out Gary Payton to give him some pointers on his own defense. Back when Kobe was completely shutting down VC and others for stretches
Can he teach full team defense or only man to man.. Maybe him and Kobe combined
He played here too and was raised here.. He shall pick here |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:02 am Post subject: |
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| The Glove can teach some toughness and trash talking to lin and clarkson. |
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KingKobe20
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:16 am Post subject: |
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To all the members who say its too much of a gamble because GP has never had any coaching experience, y'all need to realize Phil Jackson never had any coaching experience until Doug Collins brought him along as an assistant.
Also Pat Riley never had any experience until Paul Westhead brought him along as an assistant.
I think Gary Payton is a win , win Situation.
You need to get coaches who obviously know the game and can relate with the players.
GP, Coop, and Madsen would be great IMO.
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Mini Mamba
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| Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:29 am Post subject: |
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| I like GP and think he could help improve our defense. He is also a mentor to DeRozan who is more likely to come here in 2016 than Durant. |
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