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LakerLanny Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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What if Nash plays 70+ games and puts up a 50/40/90 season? Honestly the only number there I would doubt happening is the 70+ games.
If nothing else, he just spots up shoots and hits 3's like it is nothing. People forget how good of a player he can be and I don't buy that he is crippled. _________________ Love, Laker Lanny |
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Lakersneuron Star Player
Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4450
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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LakerLanny wrote: | Extend him 3 years at the vet minimum right now. Nash is going to surprise some doubters this season, I am feeling this. |
Word. I am rooting for him. A lot of bitter fans here (yes, I understand why). _________________ "I don’t give a [expletive] what you say. If I go out there and miss game winners, and people say, 'Kobe choked, or Kobe is seven for whatever in pressure situations.' Well, [expletive] you. Because I don’t play for your [expletive] approval." |
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Drifts Retired Number
Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 28374
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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I've always liked Steve Nash... especially the time Kobe jumped over him to dunk in his face... and that time Big Shot Rob took him out of the playoffs with a hockey check that busted and bloodied his nose...
it showed his tenacity and the willingness to do whatever it took to win. of course, Big Shot Rob ruined his best shot to win a championship...
but that was Big Shot Rob being Big Shot Rob... sometimes, I think "Rob" means literally robbing players of their dreams, like he did Sacto, NY, Orlando, the Spurs, Detroit and Phoenix. _________________ "Now, if life is coffee, then the jobs, money & position in society are the cups. They are just tools to hold & contain life, but the quality of life doesn't change. Sometimes, by concentrating only on the cup, we fail to enjoy the coffee in it." |
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rst08tierney Starting Rotation
Joined: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 970
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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The Homer in me still thinks his tanks not on E just yet. |
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The Shadow King Star Player
Joined: 02 Apr 2011 Posts: 4363 Location: Dallas, Texas
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Whatever. I just want his contract off the books. He can retire or continue playing until he is 80; as long as it isn't in a Laker uniform after this season... Unless it's for the vet. minimum. _________________ Lakers, today. Lakers, tomorrow. Lakers, forever. |
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MorlockO Starting Rotation
Joined: 20 Jul 2014 Posts: 184
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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LakerLanny wrote: | What if Nash plays 70+ games and puts up a 50/40/90 season? Honestly the only number there I would doubt happening is the 70+ games.
If nothing else, he just spots up shoots and hits 3's like it is nothing. People forget how good of a player he can be and I don't buy that he is crippled. |
If that happens, nash will be the first ever NBA player to do it at age 40. |
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Pgforlife Starting Rotation
Joined: 13 Jul 2014 Posts: 139
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Jackobe wrote: | Dave Miller believes Byron will start Nash over Lin. lol |
It's Nash, though. Respect is the Lakers way. I wouldn't be surprised at all. And in terms of defense, you guys are all gonna be pleasantly surprised as I believe Lin's defense is way underrated, and that he is one of the better defensive perimeter players in the league. Yes, it sounds like hyperbole, but just watch his games and not the memes that are circulating around the internet. I wish we had a rim protector, though, but this is just year 1 of the Byron era and I believe we'll get there defensively over the course of the next 3 years if we develop our players right and pick up some smart free agents who know what it means to wear the purple and gold. And they are gonna come IF we play hard this year. |
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TDRock Retired Number
Joined: 27 May 2010 Posts: 48596 Location: LA to the Bay
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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VanCity wrote: | KBH wrote: | The lack of respect people show to a future hall-of-famer who has been unable to play through no fault of his own is embarrassing. Going from Reddit's r/nba forum to reading LG is amazing. |
Agreed. |
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unleasHell Franchise Player
Joined: 16 Apr 2001 Posts: 11591 Location: Stay Thirsty my Friends
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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I would not worry Laker fans, I'm sure Jimbo will offer him at least $10mil for next season... _________________ “Always remember... Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.” |
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Hammett Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Seems like just yesterday LG was touting the new big three of Kobe, Dwight, and Nash.
_________________ Lakers. Built different. |
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2WayBaller Rookie
Joined: 22 Jul 2014 Posts: 9
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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HOFer but he should have retired 3 years ago. Too bad the Lakers are paying him for doing nothing. It should have been the Suns paying him for his great career. |
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2WayBaller Rookie
Joined: 22 Jul 2014 Posts: 9
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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He might make a great NBA head coach in the future. |
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summerly Starting Rotation
Joined: 24 Jul 2014 Posts: 239
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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will gonna miss him a lot
He is a great player |
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Azarian Sixth Man
Joined: 14 Jul 2014 Posts: 45
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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GasolBynumKobe wrote: | I'd love to get paid for 3 years of work doing nothing. What a life. |
Kobe did nothing all of last year right? |
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Hammett Star Player
Joined: 20 Dec 2008 Posts: 9309
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:39 am Post subject: |
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Azarian wrote: | GasolBynumKobe wrote: | I'd love to get paid for 3 years of work doing nothing. What a life. |
Kobe did nothing all of last year right? |
Well, he did help run Dantoni outta town so you gotta give him credit for that. _________________ Lakers. Built different. |
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ADA32 Starting Rotation
Joined: 26 Jul 2014 Posts: 302
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:57 am Post subject: |
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Jackobe wrote: | Dave Miller believes Byron will start Nash over Lin. lol |
I am all for it. It is out of respect for a few games! I see Lin will take over Nash's role as the season progress. |
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cgambino123 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:26 am Post subject: |
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Problem with Nash starting is that if you want to limit him to 15-20 min a night and have Lin play 30-35, that would require Lin to play 30-35 minutes of the remaining 40-42 minutes. Lin would get tired, and Nash would be riding the bench too long after he comes out in the first. It makes sense to have Lin start in this aspect. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:33 am Post subject: |
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I think there is certainly a role Nash can play. But being a titular starter is a bad idea, even if you factor in the "fresh from warming up" argument. As cgambino123 rightfully noted, that's a lot of minutes Lin would have to play if Nash was only good for 15 minutes and then checked out.
I'd rather start Lin, intersperse the bench time (based on Nash's health) between Nash and even Clarkson. You want to establish continuity and if Nash is in one day, out 3 games, rinse and repeat, that's not good. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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fiendishoc Star Player
Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 8488 Location: The (real) short corner
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 6:37 am Post subject: |
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He tried his best even if his body didn't cooperate. Hopefully he can contribute this year and show some flashes of the player we were hoping for. |
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lakerican Star Player
Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 3780
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 11:55 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | I think there is certainly a role Nash can play. But being a titular starter is a bad idea, even if you factor in the "fresh from warming up" argument. As cgambino123 rightfully noted, that's a lot of minutes Lin would have to play if Nash was only good for 15 minutes and then checked out.
I'd rather start Lin, intersperse the bench time (based on Nash's health) between Nash and even Clarkson. You want to establish continuity and if Nash is in one day, out 3 games, rinse and repeat, that's not good. |
Exactly, we will have differents lineups & that was one of the many problems Pringles had. |
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BennyLava Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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2WayBaller wrote: | HOFer but he should have retired 3 years ago. Too bad the Lakers are paying him for doing nothing. It should have been the Suns paying him for his great career. |
Thats the part a lot of people don't get, its nothing against the guy, he could be the next pope for all I care, but the Lakers franchise basically got stuck paying Nash for services rendered in his past to the Suns.
The Suns should be paying his salary and we should have our picks to waste on some other superstar. |
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1hu2ren3dui4 Franchise Player
Joined: 19 Jul 2002 Posts: 15403 Location: Oak Park
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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MIMLaker wrote: | "Fledgling" health? Nash is not a "fledgling" anything.
"Flagging" health, sure.
"Failing" would be too severe.
"Flailing" health, probably more accurate. |
Lol. I was thinking the exact same thing. I don't think fledgling means what he thinks it means. |
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paymonM Star Player
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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40 year old players do NOT come back from injuries. They just get additional ones. |
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kikanga Retired Number
Joined: 15 Sep 2012 Posts: 29150 Location: La La Land
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | I think there is certainly a role Nash can play. But being a titular starter is a bad idea, even if you factor in the "fresh from warming up" argument. As cgambino123 rightfully noted, that's a lot of minutes Lin would have to play if Nash was only good for 15 minutes and then checked out.
I'd rather start Lin, intersperse the bench time (based on Nash's health) between Nash and even Clarkson. You want to establish continuity and if Nash is in one day, out 3 games, rinse and repeat, that's not good. |
Exactly, and that applies to the whole rotation as well. Not just starting PG.
So don't play Nash at all! Why jump through hoops to involve him on the court? We won't increase his trade value by playing him. His expiring contract is his value. Not to mention I'd rather a younger PG we're developing (and gonna keep after this season) gets those valuable NBA minutes. Be it clarkson, Xavier, shoot even Beaubois.
What's the downside? Maybe a "healthy" Nash's offense on certain games makes him more valuable than the young guys. But I'm betting the younger guys' relatively superior defense more than makes up for that most of the time.
Scott said today. PG defense is important for our team. I agree. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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TDRock wrote: | VanCity wrote: | KBH wrote: | The lack of respect people show to a future hall-of-famer who has been unable to play through no fault of his own is embarrassing. Going from Reddit's r/nba forum to reading LG is amazing. |
Agreed. |
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If he isn't able to play due to no fault of his own, he should've medically retired.
Oh he didn't cause he wants to get paid for 2 season of not playing and not just 1. Thanks for the honesty, I guess?
Guess that's why he is a suns hall-of-famer. I bet on the Suns forums they love him!
The cynic in me thinks he has sleeper cell-kamikaze'd the Lakers.
The optimist in me thinks the Suns purposely traded us a lemon.
Either way, he's earned no love from Lakerland.
Oh ya, Kobe deserves both of Nash's MVPs but that's a different story _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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