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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:49 pm    Post subject: Math Question From A Hong Kong Elementary School Test

Fun.

http://www.businessinsider.com/math-question-from-hong-kong-elementary-school-test-2014-6
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:59 pm    Post subject:

Good one. Took me 35-40 seconds though.

To make this thread Laker related.... uhm, Pig Miller.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 2:54 pm    Post subject:

5 seconds...too easy.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:02 pm    Post subject:

Darn it. I totally failed
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:14 pm    Post subject:

Why would that be on a math quiz?





Nevermind. Looks like it was simply a question on an admissions test and the American reporter saw numbers and automatically assumed - math.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 4:37 pm    Post subject:

(bleep) those sneaky test-writers.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 5:37 pm    Post subject:

Yeah pretty easy once you flip it upside down. If you go right-side up, and left to right, you will never get it.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:44 pm    Post subject:

leor_77 wrote:
Yeah pretty easy once you flip it upside down. If you go right-side up, and left to right, you will never get it.


That's what I was trying. I figured it had to be a pattern
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:19 pm    Post subject:

kray28_ wrote:
5 seconds...too easy.


I'm sure we are all very proud
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:52 pm    Post subject:

Aussiesuede wrote:
Why would that be on a math quiz?





Nevermind. Looks like it was simply a question on an admissions test and the American reporter saw numbers and automatically assumed - math.


Exactly

Whether or not it's on a math quiz makes all the difference on how I would approach solving/answering it

It makes no sense on a math quiz and I would think could even be considered unfair or a trick question
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:09 am    Post subject:

Got it immediately. Yay I passed 4th grade in hong kong
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:49 am    Post subject:

That question is a bunch of fooey.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:10 am    Post subject:

It might take younger children less time to answer the question than educated adults. An educated adult would immediately start searching for a mathematical pattern; in less time a child would literally frame the correct answer.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:16 am    Post subject:

angrypuppy wrote:
It might take younger children less time to answer the question than educated adults. An educated adult would immediately start searching for a mathematical pattern; in less time a child would literally frame the correct answer.


Makes you think about whether educated equals intelligent.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:20 am    Post subject:

I can imagine some Chinese kids were funneled into a trade school program at age 6 cause they got that question wrong.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:44 am    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
I can imagine some Chinese kids were funneled into a blender at age 6 cause they got that question wrong.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:17 am    Post subject:

angrypuppy wrote:
It might take younger children less time to answer the question than educated adults. An educated adult would immediately start searching for a mathematical pattern; in less time a child would literally frame the correct answer.


The labeling of this as a math problem is important. That's a prime -- it sets up the way you are going to approach it. Once you see it, you immediately start thinking about it as a math problem -- you look for a numeric pattern, and lose focus on the visual patterns.

So for those of you complaining about it not being a math problem - that mislabeling is the whole point here. Even putting it in terms of a Hong Kong elementary school question (which is almost certainly made up) is part of the priming.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 4:49 am    Post subject:

So no one has made a crack about Asian drivers and the perfectly parked car yet? LG, I am disappoint.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:00 am    Post subject:

This isn't a math question, it's more lateral thinking.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:51 am    Post subject:

Why isn't this a math problem? You have to recognise the visual and then figure out the order of numbers in the eighties.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 6:47 am    Post subject:

Never thought to turn the numbers upside down. Never would have.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 8:57 am    Post subject:

LarryCoon wrote:
angrypuppy wrote:
It might take younger children less time to answer the question than educated adults. An educated adult would immediately start searching for a mathematical pattern; in less time a child would literally frame the correct answer.


The labeling of this as a math problem is important. That's a prime -- it sets up the way you are going to approach it. Once you see it, you immediately start thinking about it as a math problem -- you look for a numeric pattern, and lose focus on the visual patterns.

So for those of you complaining about it not being a math problem - that mislabeling is the whole point here. Even putting it in terms of a Hong Kong elementary school question (which is almost certainly made up) is part of the priming.


Agreed. I got it pretty quick, but I happen to be reading a mensa puzzle book off and on lately, which has sort of recently trained me to look for a trick and multiple angles of approach if the answer isn't instantaneously obvious. I would probably take 4 or 5 times as long if I wasn't recently doing the book. Also (and separately) I was primed probably to disregard the label somewhat more than I would have otherwise just because I sort of want to mentally attack a puzzle instead of passively read an article, which is probably my pre-book mode.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:38 am    Post subject:

Shlumpledink wrote:
Got it immediately. Yay I passed 4th grade in hong kong


But you failed the Hong Kong reading test. The article says the question was for future 1st graders, not 4th graders.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:50 am    Post subject:

jodeke wrote:
Never thought to turn the numbers upside down. Never would have.


Nice honest response. I didn't thought of that also until I read the answer.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 10:20 am    Post subject:

More than 5 and less than 10 seconds.

Reminded me of an LSAT question.
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