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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:05 pm Post subject:
yinoma2001 wrote:
of course this depends on Kobe's health. I think your scenario is plausible if Kobe is out. Not so much when he's playing.
SG: Kobe 30mpg; Young 15mpg; X 3mpg;
SF: Wes 25mpg; Young 15mpg; X 8mpg.
You don't even have enough minutes for X here, and if there were any available minutes at the SF spot, I'd wager that Randle is the 4th string SF based on summer league play.
Kelly will have to fight for minutes at the PF and C spot.
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2014-15 NBA Rookies Under the Most Pressure to Succeed Right Away
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General manager Mitch Kupchak and co. put their faith in Julius Randle. No one is expecting him to put up colossal numbers, but the team's lack of a major free-agent acquisition gives him more responsibility to help Kobe turn the ship around.
There is speculation that Coach Scott plans to bring JR along slowly at first & by mid-season JR should be ready to start.
Seems to be a good plan because it's not easy adjusting to the rigors of the NBA.
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Randle isn’t likely to come out of training camp with a starting gig, he’s still likely to play a solid amount of minutes that will only increase over the course of the season.
By no stretch is it outlandish to think he can take over Boozer’s spot, especially given his talent level.
There is speculation that Coach Scott plans to bring JR along slowly at first & by mid-season JR should be ready to start.
Seems to be a good plan because it's not easy adjusting to the rigors of the NBA.
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Randle isn’t likely to come out of training camp with a starting gig, he’s still likely to play a solid amount of minutes that will only increase over the course of the season.
By no stretch is it outlandish to think he can take over Boozer’s spot, especially given his talent level.
There is speculation that Coach Scott plans to bring JR along slowly at first & by mid-season JR should be ready to start.
Seems to be a good plan because it's not easy adjusting to the rigors of the NBA.
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Randle isn’t likely to come out of training camp with a starting gig, he’s still likely to play a solid amount of minutes that will only increase over the course of the season.
By no stretch is it outlandish to think he can take over Boozer’s spot, especially given his talent level.
Until he gets his NBA legs under him (and minimize him hitting the rookie wall), are you guys cool with starting Boozer and bringing Randle and Swaggy P off the bench?
No issues with however Scott decides the rotations should be. That is what training camp will sort out. IMO Boozer and Randle will end up with very similar mpg.
Looking at the roster today, I would prefer getting Randle in the starting lineup if he can earn it. Just think he and Hill would provide a lot of athleticism and energy on the boards and on defensive rotations.
On offense I think he can play off Kobe and Lin pretty effectively. Also think that Boozers consistent mid range game fits better with Young's offensive game. JMO
If you're expecting any defense out of Randle your reality is seriously warped. Hopefully he'll make up for it on offense at least.
Why? Did you see him defend when willy Cauley stein went out with injuries? I'm kind of glad he will have to earn pt with Scott who at least preaches defense. No excuse for not playing defense as a rookie. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
If you're expecting any defense out of Randle your reality is seriously warped. Hopefully he'll make up for it on offense at least.
Why? Did you see him defend when willy Cauley stein went out with injuries? I'm kind of glad he will have to earn pt with Scott who at least preaches defense. No excuse for not playing defense as a rookie.
I am not bashing randle but he has pretty low IQ on the defensive end and is much below average on the defensive end
We picked this article apart before the draft as well. A lot of the stats and footage are cherry picked (the bias against Randle really shows when they start pumping up Aaron Gordon). Randle has stats (rim protection fg%, isolation fg%) that tell the opposite story, as well as games where he looked really good defensively. I have no idea why he used low post defense against a 7 foot center like Kaminsky as a example of a red flag.
I don't expect him to be very good defensively as a rookie (as no rookies can really play D), but as he should pick it up quickly. He looks like someone who was taught big man fundamentals quite late, but he already looked leaps and bounds better in college than in high school. Lack of standing reach should always give him trouble in the post versus larger players, but he should eventually be an above average pick and roll defender, and can hold his own against guards on switches.
Joined: 10 Apr 2001 Posts: 65135 Location: Orange County, CA
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:09 pm Post subject:
I don't think he should start. He wasn't game ready, but during the Vegas Pro League, he didn't show the definitive post skills we had been watching all year.
The rookie year is a tough year. NCAA. NCAA tourney. Draft workouts. Draft. Pro League.
It's a long year. This is also why players really develop in their 2nd and 3rd years in the league. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:21 pm Post subject:
oliverginob wrote:
looks like hes going a for a point forward shape, that could get him more minutes by being able to play the 3
Even if he's not getting ready to play the 3 (which I agree, was probably the plan the moment the Lakers drafted him), there's little benefit to being heavy if you can't stay on the floor. A skinnier Randle gives me hope.
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I hope it saves them from future nagging injurues.
