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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:09 am    Post subject:

This is all negotiating tactics and a game of chicken. Bledsoe has very little leverage because unless he is signed and trade for the max he is stuck playing for the qualifying offer and long term even if he gets a max he wasted a year where he could've had 12 million this year if he signed the suns offer. It will be interesting because are the suns willing to lose him for nothing. They may be because what can they realistically get back for him. The wolves have nothing to offer so the sign and trade with the wolves could be smoke. It is Possible that the suns would rather stay $15 million under the cap Then sign and trade with the wolves and take back a bunch of bad contracts. This Is why there's not much market for Bledsoe as teams know they can just wait till he's an unrestricted free agent.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:16 am    Post subject:

$ talks. Blatche playing in china where he gets more exposure and slightly more $ than the minimum. We will see more of this IMO as international teams start giving more $ and opportunities.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:19 am    Post subject:

This dude is still unsigned?

Dawg, get yo' money and run. Especially since you get injured every (bleep) year.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:20 am    Post subject:

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This dude is still unsigned?

Dawg, get yo' money and run. Especially since you get injured every (bleep) year.


Bledsoe and his agent are playing a losing game here.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:28 am    Post subject:

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This dude is still unsigned?

Dawg, get yo' money and run. Especially since you get injured every (bleep) year.


Bledsoe and his agent are playing a losing game here.


Agree with both points. Problem now is there is no money to take and run. He is stuck now.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:37 am    Post subject:

shoulder doc wrote:
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City_Dawg wrote:
This dude is still unsigned?

Dawg, get yo' money and run. Especially since you get injured every (bleep) year.


Bledsoe and his agent are playing a losing game here.


Agree with both points. Problem now is there is no money to take and run. He is stuck now.


Bledsoe & Monroe are both taking huge gambles but it could work out for them in the long run if they can remain healthy.
Apparently it's a risk that they are willing to take. They obviously want out of the organizations that they're in for personal reasons.
Let's let everything unfold and see where the chips fall.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:59 am    Post subject:

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This is all negotiating tactics and a game of chicken. Bledsoe has very little leverage because unless he is signed and trade for the max he is stuck playing for the qualifying offer and long term even if he gets a max he wasted a year where he could've had 12 million this year if he signed the suns offer. It will be interesting because are the suns willing to lose him for nothing. They may be because what can they realistically get back for him. The wolves have nothing to offer so the sign and trade with the wolves could be smoke. It is Possible that the suns would rather stay $15 million under the cap Then sign and trade with the wolves and take back a bunch of bad contracts. This Is why there's not much market for Bledsoe as teams know they can just wait till he's an unrestricted free agent.


The wolves have plenty to offer. Rubio, Martin, Budinger, Brewer, Barea. They have. A lot of trade pieces.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:10 am    Post subject:

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Typing kings. They let a nice young talent like Thomas go and get middling players like Collison and sessions.


2 things kings need:

A guard who can go to the hole & suck defense
Guard who can distribute to cousins, gay & Mcm

Sessions can both of these effeciently

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:18 am    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
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This is all negotiating tactics and a game of chicken. Bledsoe has very little leverage because unless he is signed and trade for the max he is stuck playing for the qualifying offer and long term even if he gets a max he wasted a year where he could've had 12 million this year if he signed the suns offer. It will be interesting because are the suns willing to lose him for nothing. They may be because what can they realistically get back for him. The wolves have nothing to offer so the sign and trade with the wolves could be smoke. It is Possible that the suns would rather stay $15 million under the cap Then sign and trade with the wolves and take back a bunch of bad contracts. This Is why there's not much market for Bledsoe as teams know they can just wait till he's an unrestricted free agent.


The wolves have plenty to offer. Rubio, Martin, Budinger, Brewer, Barea. They have. A lot of trade pieces.


T-Wolves don't want to trade Rubio & the Suns don't want any of the other guys.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:34 am    Post subject:

pio2u wrote:
shoulder doc wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
City_Dawg wrote:
This dude is still unsigned?

Dawg, get yo' money and run. Especially since you get injured every (bleep) year.


Bledsoe and his agent are playing a losing game here.


Agree with both points. Problem now is there is no money to take and run. He is stuck now.


Bledsoe & Monroe are both taking huge gambles but it could work out for them in the long run if they can remain healthy.
Apparently it's a risk that they are willing to take. They obviously want out of the organizations that they're in for personal reasons.
Let's let everything unfold and see where the chips fall.


I understand these guys are looking for that big payday and Monroe is probably more likely to get it since someone is always willing to overpay for size. Bledsoe on the other hand, needs to realize that he's more likely to take a bad spill and be done. Then again, that's probably why he's asking for max money even though it's obvious he's not a max player.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:43 am    Post subject:

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MJST wrote:
shoulder doc wrote:
This is all negotiating tactics and a game of chicken. Bledsoe has very little leverage because unless he is signed and trade for the max he is stuck playing for the qualifying offer and long term even if he gets a max he wasted a year where he could've had 12 million this year if he signed the suns offer. It will be interesting because are the suns willing to lose him for nothing. They may be because what can they realistically get back for him. The wolves have nothing to offer so the sign and trade with the wolves could be smoke. It is Possible that the suns would rather stay $15 million under the cap Then sign and trade with the wolves and take back a bunch of bad contracts. This Is why there's not much market for Bledsoe as teams know they can just wait till he's an unrestricted free agent.


The wolves have plenty to offer. Rubio, Martin, Budinger, Brewer, Barea. They have. A lot of trade pieces.


T-Wolves don't want to trade Rubio & the Suns don't want any of the other guys.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:11 pm    Post subject:

That's Phoenix trying to get something more for Bledsoe.

If Bledsoe signs the qualifying offer he is untradable and thus as well is going to walk away from the team in 2015.

Both Bledsoe and Dragic would be free agents in 2015 with more lucrative spots with freed up cap space such as New York whom could afford both to pair with Anthony should they choose. Or Minni could just throw a max at blesdoe then as they'd have max space.

So if Phoenix doesn't want Bledsoe to walk for nothing they'll deal with Minni. Its right now about posturing. If Phoenix does nothing and Bledsoe signs the qualifying offer its their loss.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:24 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
That's Phoenix trying to get something more for Bledsoe.

If Bledsoe signs the qualifying offer he is untradable and thus as well is going to walk away from the team in 2015.

Both Bledsoe and Dragic would be free agents in 2015 with more lucrative spots with freed up cap space such as New York whom could afford both to pair with Anthony should they choose. Or Minni could just throw a max at blesdoe then as they'd have max space.

So if Phoenix doesn't want Bledsoe to walk for nothing they'll deal with Minni. Its right now about posturing. If Phoenix does nothing and Bledsoe signs the qualifying offer its their loss.


i agree...look at the names that are being thrown...Wiggins...Lavine....Pek/Rubio

lol ill just wait for another yr if I was minny and suck & get Okafor in the next draft

no need to even trade bennett for bledsoe...
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:24 pm    Post subject:

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$ talks. Blatche playing in china where he gets more exposure and slightly more $ than the minimum. We will see more of this IMO as international teams start giving more $ and opportunities.


http://www.netsdaily.com/2014/9/20/6652319/andray-blatche-heading-to-western-china

he's only getting paid 2.5 million and it's a one-year deal?

i seriously thought he could get 3-4.5 million a year deal in the NBA. this is crazy to me.

does he have personality/drama issues?

i cannot believe no one tried to get him.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:35 pm    Post subject:

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$ talks. Blatche playing in china where he gets more exposure and slightly more $ than the minimum. We will see more of this IMO as international teams start giving more $ and opportunities.


http://www.netsdaily.com/2014/9/20/6652319/andray-blatche-heading-to-western-china

he's only getting paid 2.5 million and it's a one-year deal?

i seriously thought he could get 3-4.5 million a year deal in the NBA. this is crazy to me.

does he have personality/drama issues?

i cannot believe no one tried to get him.


Probably minimum deals and bench role. In china gets $1m more and is the star. Some guys like that.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 7:34 pm    Post subject:

I wonder what's the deal with JaVale McGee he really makes Impact when he's healthy... then you realize that there is a good chance he's gonna do something stupid.

I think we can get him.. using Nash and Hou's 1st round pick.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:04 pm    Post subject:

Don't think it is smart to invest a lot of money into McGee. I think he has 3 more years on his contract
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:38 am    Post subject:

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Don't think it is smart to invest a lot of money into McGee. I think he has 3 more years on his contract


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:18 am    Post subject:

Investing in McGee who plays elite defense and has elite shot-blocking skills and can bother big-man players with his length is well worth it.....

better then the investment the Lakers have had for Nash in the last 2-3 year's that's for sure...
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:38 am    Post subject:

I'm not a fan of McGee. He has a world of talent, but he hasn't improved his game, and often doesn't seem to give his full effort. If he ever got his head straight and stayed healthy he could be a very good player, but if it hasn't happened by now it probably isn't happening.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:43 am    Post subject:

There is a slight trend starting: Some Free Agents that got interest from NBA teams Head Overseas For Ca$h:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:48 am    Post subject:

Any news on this guy? I'm seriously befuddled with his strategy. Its like he's in a strangers place for hours & not wanting to use their bathroom, he'd rather suffer & wait for hours til he gets home. Hahaha.

I hope He doesn't suffer too much & just use the damn facility lol.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:57 am    Post subject:

We aren't going to trade for McGee since he would eliminate any chance of us getting a better C next summer.

If we trade with Denver I'd rather get Gallinari since there aren't many good free agent SF's next summer and a lot of good C's
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:12 am    Post subject:

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This is all negotiating tactics and a game of chicken. Bledsoe has very little leverage because unless he is signed and trade for the max he is stuck playing for the qualifying offer and long term even if he gets a max he wasted a year where he could've had 12 million this year if he signed the suns offer. It will be interesting because are the suns willing to lose him for nothing. They may be because what can they realistically get back for him. The wolves have nothing to offer so the sign and trade with the wolves could be smoke. It is Possible that the suns would rather stay $15 million under the cap Then sign and trade with the wolves and take back a bunch of bad contracts. This Is why there's not much market for Bledsoe as teams know they can just wait till he's an unrestricted free agent.


It's clear as day what Rich Paul did there, even employing his good buddy Windhorst to report it too. At some point Paul will have to come to grips with his FAIL and have Bledsoe sign the QO.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:52 am    Post subject:

Mini Mamba wrote:
We aren't going to trade for McGee since he would eliminate any chance of us getting a better C next summer.

If we trade with Denver I'd rather get Gallinari since there aren't many good free agent SF's next summer and a lot of good C's


Not a big fan of McGee. Gallinari would be interesting but I doubt Denver is ready to move him yet. Still have the "if only...." type of comments from fans and media.

A SF that seems to be more realistic would be Wilson Chandler. Pretty good all -around player ...when healthy. Would prefer a straight up Nash for Chandler (or similar SF) type trade. If Nash is moved at all.

Would prefer the Lakers keep that HOU 1st unless absolutely necessary.
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