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doughboy90650
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 Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:24 pm Post subject: NEW OPEN COURT: NBA 50 Greatest and Next 10 |
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I love these OPEN COURT PROGRAMS on NBATV. This latest one discussed the next 10 after the 50 greatest from the 1997 All Star game. Personally, I think Shaquille shouldn't have been on that list after only four years and he stated as much. Dominique Wilkens should have had that spot.
The next ten, according to the panel, were:
Duncan
Bryant
James
Iverson
Garnett
Nowitzki
Wilkens
McAdoo
Wade
Durant
I think Reggie Miller should be in that next ten but he didn't want to vote for himself. Webber was in but was pushed to 61. I'd say Miller in and probably Durant out. |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:42 am Post subject: |
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| I watched it. Most of those guys know the other players well so I don't think they really discussed it that well. They really put 8 guys in right away and then just debated the last spot or 2. To me the only definite next 10 guys that should be in with no debate are Kobe, Duncan, Lebron, KG. everyone else should be compared with other players. I admittedly am not an Iverson fan but I think he was put in way too easily. I think Kidd, Payton, Nash can all have cases made over AI and others on the list. |
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kwase
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| IMO Allen Iverson & D. Wade should not be on that list. Gary Payton was much better than both of those guys!!! |
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doughboy90650
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| Have no problem with Iverson and Dirk. Both have the stats, led their squads and had serious impact on the game. Miller should be in that next ten |
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KBH
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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| doughboy90650 wrote: | | Have no problem with Iverson and Dirk. Both have the stats, led their squads and had serious impact on the game. Miller should be in that next ten |
I know I'm in the minority on this, but I think Miller is closer to being a fringe HOFer than one of the 60 best players in NBA history. |
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vanexelent
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Vishnu wrote: | | I watched it. Most of those guys know the other players well so I don't think they really discussed it that well. They really put 8 guys in right away and then just debated the last spot or 2. To me the only definite next 10 guys that should be in with no debate are Kobe, Duncan, Lebron, KG. everyone else should be compared with other players. I admittedly am not an Iverson fan but I think he was put in way too easily. I think Kidd, Payton, Nash can all have cases made over AI and others on the list. |
Absolutely. These are the best PG's since Magic left the game. |
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Cap's Elbow
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| Shaq's reaction to Howard being mentioned by Kenny was hilarious. |
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I'm ok with AI, but I don't agree with Wade, and it's too early to put Durant up there.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I still can't believe they left Steve Blake off the list |
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ODotSoHot
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| Rodman belongs on that list |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown
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| KBH wrote: | | doughboy90650 wrote: | | Have no problem with Iverson and Dirk. Both have the stats, led their squads and had serious impact on the game. Miller should be in that next ten |
I know I'm in the minority on this, but I think Miller is closer to being a fringe HOFer than one of the 60 best players in NBA history. |
I'm with you.
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown
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| ODotSoHot wrote: | | Rodman belongs on that list |
If I had a choice between prime Rodman and prime Miller, I'd take Rodman in a heartbeat.
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Wilkes52
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:31 am Post subject: |
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| KBH wrote: | | doughboy90650 wrote: | | Have no problem with Iverson and Dirk. Both have the stats, led their squads and had serious impact on the game. Miller should be in that next ten |
I know I'm in the minority on this, but I think Miller is closer to being a fringe HOFer than one of the 60 best players in NBA history. |
I'm with you on this. I think Reggie gets far too much respect for being a very one-dimensional player. |
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| KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | | KBH wrote: | | doughboy90650 wrote: | | Have no problem with Iverson and Dirk. Both have the stats, led their squads and had serious impact on the game. Miller should be in that next ten |
I know I'm in the minority on this, but I think Miller is closer to being a fringe HOFer than one of the 60 best players in NBA history. |
I'm with you. |
Completely agree. Were it not for the NBA on NBC and those replayed Knicks/Pacers highlights he wouldn't even sniff the HoF. There's a lot of players with similar #'s to Reggie that don't have that halo effect. In fact, there's a boatload of 90s players that are severely overrated.
Reggie isn't even in the same stratosphere as KD. |
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