Boardwalk Empire

loslakersss · Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 12:42 pm Post subject:

I recognized the name but didnt make the connection to him being in the earlier seasons.

I was just thinking about this season's tagline though, "no one goes quietly". Van Alden got the memo but Chalky sure didn't, lol.

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loslakersss · Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 12:58 pm Post subject:

Right on point about Nucky. Dude realized that all the power he always wanted wasn't what he thought it would be.

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jodeke · Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:35 pm Post subject:

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Bummed to see Van Alden and Chalky White go.
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loslakersss · Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:59 pm Post subject:

What are your guys' thoughts on Van Alden's last moments- was he thinking he was dead either way so he figured he go out while putting up a fight or do you think he was trying to at least be the hero by possibly saving the other two from getting killed right there in that room to(or at least Eli)? I'm thinking the former but I still wonder.

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I take it the last episode still has people dizzy. Hope Nuck doesn't go out making amends for grievances past as did Sheriff Lindsay. Boring way to wrap it up. His nephew is annoying like Upham from Private Ryan. Why would he walk that slowly during the hostage exchange? I was hoping he'd get killed in lieu of Mickey Doyle. Gotta give it to the guy playing young Buscemi. You start to think that's actually him.

Agree with focus on the "cleaning up storylines" opinion. I just hope they show Al getting his come uppance instead of relying on our prior knowledge that Ness got him on taxes.

The stabbing of Maranzano was well-done. Since his character had a flair for history and was so content to let things unfold as he remained impotent to mounting danger, I'm sure they tried to evoke the dramatic image we have in our minds of how Julius or Caligula were stuck to death by a group of brutuses.
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numero-ocho · Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:34 am Post subject:

numero-ocho · Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:38 am Post subject:

Watching last night's episode, it just occurred to me there's a continuity mistake in Jillian's story. I distinctly recall an episode where Jillian talked about the first time she was introduced to the Commodore. She said she'd just won some type of beauty contest and was about 15 or 16 IIRC.
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jodeke · Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:20 am Post subject:

I wondered who the person under the boardwalk was. It's now clear how Jillian and Nucky were connected.

In the beginning I was puzzled why Nucky gave her much so leeway. He probably felt guilty for introducing a child to the Commodore for his sexual pleasure.

I don't see Nucky going out in a blaze of glory. I know the writers cautioned not to connect the characters to real life but Nucky went to jail for tax evasion, got out and went straight.

I envision him being instrumental in the demise of Narcisse.

How the writers are going to end his storyline has me interested. I hope they don't make him to be a loser.
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numero-ocho · Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:53 pm Post subject:

Nucky's already got his exit strategy plan going via the insider trading he's doing with Margaret. Her return was kind of an unexpected stroke of luck at a time when his empire was starting to fall apart.

He was hoping his Bacardi plan would help him transition from bootlegger to legitimate importer, but following the rejection by Joe Kennedy, the Bacardi guy stealing his money, and the death of Sally Wheet, he's ready to get out of the booze business for good. I think his surrender of his crime businesses to Luciano and Lansky was what he was hoping for and certainly wasn't as important as his nephew's life. That scene where he ordered the kid to get rid of all the booze in the room was symbolic of that. There was also the symbolic gesture of the Sheriff handing over his badge to him and walking away when his conscience couldn't handle it anymore.
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jodeke · Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:32 pm Post subject:

^^^^^ I hope you're right n-o. Makes a lot of sense, remembering him doing the inside trading.
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Interesting ending with Gillian's plea for help, the letter reading before that.

Going to hate to see the scene where good Nucky makes his terrible decision. I hope bad Nucky doesnt get away with it.

jodeke · Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 3:07 pm Post subject:

Gillian wrote a letter to Nucky asking for help again. Young Gillian was shown asking Nucky to help. I think Nucky will help her out of the asylum.
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numero-ocho · Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 6:17 pm Post subject:

I gotta take my hat off to the writers. They were thrown a serious curve ball with the abrupt decision to end the series, but they put together a well crafted final season on a compressed schedule that was capped off by a terrific ending to the series.
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jodeke · Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 6:21 pm Post subject:

loslakersss · Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:28 pm Post subject:

The finale, much like this who season, was just a big buildup with a great payoff. Did NOT see that ending with Tommy coming AT ALL. I suspected that they might kill of Nuck but didn't really think they would but I had COMPLETELY forgotten about Tommy.

I love how it all came full circle, especially since Jimmy was my favorite character. Nuck going against his better judgement to get ahead in life with The Commodore's help along with breaking his promise to Gillian set of the longest chain of events that led to his demise. Really was a great way to wrap it all up.

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Scorsese series. The ending is a classic one for him.

jodeke · Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 8:56 pm Post subject:

Blew me away. I didn't like the characters left standing.

I didn't expect Nucky to be killed. Tommy, son of Jimmy did the deed. To many loose ends. Gillian, Eli, Luciano, Daughter.

In this series the bad guys won.

The shift from then to now was tied well. Made the end characters connections clearer.
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numero-ocho · Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:18 pm Post subject:

loslakersss · Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:04 pm Post subject:

^ Good point about the Capone scene. I also was thinking it was to bring sympathy for him and show us who he "really was" when he wasn't putting on the public enemy persona for his crew. But I think your pov makes more sense.

It also shows his son trying to be strong for his father in return for when his father tried to make him strong and get him to fight back with the bullies. It's something that kind of tied in to Tommy doing right by his father and his father tried to do all he could to give him a better life.