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sammo
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| greenfrog wrote: | | sammo wrote: | the whole "lin has to come off the bench because second unit needs him" argument is dumb as hell.
look at the team we just played - portland trailblazers. they should play lilard with second unit because alridge, batum, and matthews are enough firepower and trailblazer's second unit sucks.
cleveland should have kyrie irving play with second unit because lebron and love are enough fire power and cleveland second unit sucks.
see? none of those teams do this because they know how important first quarter is in setting the momentum and the tone of the game. you bring out your best guys and go after it. |
It's dumb to sync his minutes with players that fit his skill set? Unless Davis is starting as well, it makes no sense. Who's he going to throw lobs to, Carlos Boozer? |
that's the coach's job to figure out how tetris piece match up. why isn't boozer doing lots of pick and pop with lin? that should've been one of the bread and butter of this team. lin and kobe didnt conflict with ball handling, not nearly as much as harden and lin, so what's the issue? |
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greenfrog
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| sammo wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | sammo wrote: | the whole "lin has to come off the bench because second unit needs him" argument is dumb as hell.
look at the team we just played - portland trailblazers. they should play lilard with second unit because alridge, batum, and matthews are enough firepower and trailblazer's second unit sucks.
cleveland should have kyrie irving play with second unit because lebron and love are enough fire power and cleveland second unit sucks.
see? none of those teams do this because they know how important first quarter is in setting the momentum and the tone of the game. you bring out your best guys and go after it. |
It's dumb to sync his minutes with players that fit his skill set? Unless Davis is starting as well, it makes no sense. Who's he going to throw lobs to, Carlos Boozer? |
that's the coach's job to figure out how tetris piece match up. why isn't boozer doing lots of pick and pop with lin? that should've been one of the bread and butter of this team. lin and kobe didnt conflict with ball handling, not nearly as much as harden and lin, so what's the issue? |
you really want to see boozer jacking up more long 2's? |
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sammo
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | sammo wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | sammo wrote: | the whole "lin has to come off the bench because second unit needs him" argument is dumb as hell.
look at the team we just played - portland trailblazers. they should play lilard with second unit because alridge, batum, and matthews are enough firepower and trailblazer's second unit sucks.
cleveland should have kyrie irving play with second unit because lebron and love are enough fire power and cleveland second unit sucks.
see? none of those teams do this because they know how important first quarter is in setting the momentum and the tone of the game. you bring out your best guys and go after it. |
It's dumb to sync his minutes with players that fit his skill set? Unless Davis is starting as well, it makes no sense. Who's he going to throw lobs to, Carlos Boozer? |
that's the coach's job to figure out how tetris piece match up. why isn't boozer doing lots of pick and pop with lin? that should've been one of the bread and butter of this team. lin and kobe didnt conflict with ball handling, not nearly as much as harden and lin, so what's the issue? |
you really want to see boozer jacking up more long 2's? |
he shot 52% from the field and scored 39 points on 29 shots in the last 3 games. what are you complaining about? |
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greenfrog
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| sammo wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | sammo wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | sammo wrote: | the whole "lin has to come off the bench because second unit needs him" argument is dumb as hell.
look at the team we just played - portland trailblazers. they should play lilard with second unit because alridge, batum, and matthews are enough firepower and trailblazer's second unit sucks.
cleveland should have kyrie irving play with second unit because lebron and love are enough fire power and cleveland second unit sucks.
see? none of those teams do this because they know how important first quarter is in setting the momentum and the tone of the game. you bring out your best guys and go after it. |
It's dumb to sync his minutes with players that fit his skill set? Unless Davis is starting as well, it makes no sense. Who's he going to throw lobs to, Carlos Boozer? |
that's the coach's job to figure out how tetris piece match up. why isn't boozer doing lots of pick and pop with lin? that should've been one of the bread and butter of this team. lin and kobe didnt conflict with ball handling, not nearly as much as harden and lin, so what's the issue? |
you really want to see boozer jacking up more long 2's? |
he shot 52% from the field and scored 39 points on 29 shots in the last 3 games. what are you complaining about? |
me? you're the one who wants to change that. if it's not broke why fix it. |
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sammo
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| yes, surely because this team is so good we are not in need of any possible improvements to include synergistic plays between two players whose best stats comes from pick and roll/pop. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| sammo wrote: | | yes, surely because this team is so good we are not in need of any possible improvements to include synergistic plays between two players whose best stats comes from pick and roll/pop. |
honestly i just don't see it as that big a weapon. i like the lin/davis tandem better. |
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sammo
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | sammo wrote: | | yes, surely because this team is so good we are not in need of any possible improvements to include synergistic plays between two players whose best stats comes from pick and roll/pop. |
honestly i just don't see it as that big a weapon. i like the lin/davis tandem better. |
and who's to say davis won't replace hill by the end of preseason as the center? |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| sammo wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | sammo wrote: | | yes, surely because this team is so good we are not in need of any possible improvements to include synergistic plays between two players whose best stats comes from pick and roll/pop. |
honestly i just don't see it as that big a weapon. i like the lin/davis tandem better. |
and who's to say davis won't replace hill by the end of preseason as the center? |
yes, i stated that would be the most logical reason to start him. |
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laserboy
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Coach is gonna start Price, right? |
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MorlockO
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Lin has to start.
Can we find a team in the NBA where their Best PG is coming of the bench?
Generally 6th men tend to be SG, SF,and PF. why? because they are Tweeners, they can play 3 different positions. during the regular season you will need these tweeners because you only play 8-9 guys, and these tweeners would need to come in and fill in for what ever positions you need. |
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jlinfan
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Reflexx wrote: | I think Byron will have Lin start early in the season, if not by game 1. There are some reasons why Lin is on the bench at the moment.
1. No experience with starting unit on practice
2. Coming back from a week off. Need to adjust to speed of the game again
3. Ease him back
4. With Young out, bench is anemic on scoring
5. To get a read on guys like Randle, it's best to have a good PG on the floor |
I see where your coming from.
If I read between the lines correctly for points 1-4, your saying Lin will start once Young gets back which is a little more palatable for using Lin off the bench. I'm probably confusing the facts here, but I could have sworn during last broadcast that someone said that "top 6 teams last season had the worst benches". If that's true, points 1-4 are diminished.
Point 5 implies that Lin is there to nurture Randle. Maybe valid, but I'm not drinking the cool-aid. Small sample size, but based on last nights game, that second unit will give the first unit a run for their money. If the two units are equal I submit it would be better to stack the first unit and take a hit on the bench. |
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jlinfan
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Lakers_Jester wrote: | | I voted yes. For obvious reasons. Now do one for ed davis lol. |
Another head scratcher for sure. Maybe confirmation bias, but out of all the bigs, it looked like Davis got the least amount of burn during preseason. |
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MorlockO
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All this talk about J Lin needs to come off the bench to lead the 2nd unit, is a load of crap... there is no such thing as a 2nd unit...
Most of the teams in the NBA have 8-9 regular rotation guys, that means that there is always at least 1-2 starter in the game all the time.
you will only see a full force 2nd unit if it is a blowout, by which you don't need Lin to lead those guys... |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| laserboy wrote: | | Coach is gonna start Price, right? |
Probably tomorrow, he has been strict with Lin's minutes since he came back.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes Lin should start. I am not sure he will though in the first few games. I hope the coach will. Lin can do amazing thing given some confidence and freedom, which is what happened in NY. |
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jlinfan
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| MorlockO wrote: | All this talk about J Lin needs to come off the bench to lead the 2nd unit, is a load of crap... there is no such thing as a 2nd unit...
Most of the teams in the NBA have 8-9 regular rotation guys, that means that there is always at least 1-2 starter in the game all the time.
you will only see a full force 2nd unit if it is a blowout, by which you don't need Lin to lead those guys... |
+1 for the bottled snake oil
Your last point butts the notion that starting doesn't matter it's who finishes the game. This is only true if the game can be won/lost at the end. |
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LinOnlyFan
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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It only matters who close the game. Why not try staggering Kobe and Lin for a few games.
Coming off bench would be bonus for Lin, He doesnt have to guard starting PG, can save some energy and have the ball as long as he likes to play his best. |
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Since it's still preseason maybe experiment by starting Price and Lin together.  |
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traveler
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:33 pm Post subject: yes |
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| Gwyn wrote: | | It is his time now. |
I agree. Lin should be developed as the starter and giving Kobe a release when he gets double teamed. |
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since1991
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Jeremy Lin having to compete with Ronnie Price for the starting job is just absurd!!!
Career Stats:
Jeremy Lin (Age 26) in 4 years
27.3 MIN .442 FG% .343 3P% .801 FT% 11.9 PTS 2.6 REB 4.8 AST 1.3 STL
Ronnie Price (Age 31) in 9 years
11.7 MIN .378 FG% .292 3P% .726 FT% 3.4 PTS 1.1 REB 1.5 AST 0.6 STL
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| Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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| After all these years...Ronnie price finally makes it as a starter. |
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Is this even a question?
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 6:07 am Post subject: |
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| no choice. best PG in the roster and those currently in the market are meh. Gilbert Arenas? ya gotta be kiddin' |
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| Quote: | @EricPincus
There are some SERIOUSLY passionate Lin fans who are very angry that Jeremy Lin is not starting - didn't quite grasp the scope til now |
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