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| Should mods take jeggs bet to ban him if Lakers don't make playoffs but put this in TOPIC HOF forever if Lakers do make playoffs in 2015? |
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| Just ban him any way, who cares bro |
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Bard207
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| dabask11 wrote: |
Yes it would be amazing but still not indicative of what could happen for the rest of the season. |
I think that we are in general agreement, but going slightly offtrack from what I had in mind.
Here is the initial post that I responded to:
| K0BEE 2.0 wrote: |
Everything you listed is the reason, why fans should feel optimistic.... I think we are gonna blaze out of the gates... we're probably gonna be like 12-3 in the first 15 games... which would be great accomplishment and from there everything will fall into place. |
The way that it was worded, I took
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and from there everything will fall into place. |
to mean that the poster would be expecting another step - level upward AFTER the 12 - 3 start.
From my POV, if they are able to go 12 - 3 with that opening schedule,
then that would be very impressive and I wouldn't expect the team to move another step - level upward beyond that. |
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Krispy Kreme
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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part of the reason why duncan has been so successful late in his career has been his willingness to take a big pay cut to make room for other players, along with his F.O/Scouting department being better than ours.
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EddieJonesss
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Krispy Kreme wrote: | | part of the reason why duncan has been so successful late in his career has been his willingness to take a big pay cut to make room for other players, along with his F.O/Scouting department being better than ours. |
Duncan making close to $5 million less than Chandler Parsons next year is a bit of a travesty.
But yeah, winning rings makes it all worth it in the end. Especially if he can finally repeat for once in his career. |
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Jeggs
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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I'll make a bet with the moderators. If we don't make the playoffs this season you ban me from the forum permanently. But if we do make the playoffs you put this in the TOPIC HOF. Deal?  |
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Omar Little
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Jeggs wrote: | | I'll make a bet with the moderators. If we don't make the playoffs this season you ban me from the forum permanently. But if we do make the playoffs you put this in the TOPIC HOF. Deal? |
My bet is that you won't make it to the playoffs, so your bet is moot. That's right, I just brang it... 
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Kobe2014
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 10:53 am Post subject: |
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| Kobe trains harder than Duncan, so he can play very well with 36 years. |
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ringfinger
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:05 am Post subject: |
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| Kobe2014 wrote: | | Kobe trains harder than Duncan, so he can play very well with 36 years. |
Why, as a new member, would you do this? |
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Jeggs
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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^Because if Lin and Boozer keep up this kind of play...and we keep up this kind of defense...we can get to the post season with this squad.
Once you make the post season...if everything clicks and comes together, we could make the finals. |
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Kobe2Clark
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Parker
Kobe
Leonard
Diaw
Splitter
Manu
Green
and decent shooters/role players
That team wins in 2011 and 2013 as well
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nevitt_smrek
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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To quote kevin O'Leary, "I forbid you to proceed."
Although if the Lakers do end up qualifying for postseason, this Jeggs guy should get a gift card to the Lakers team store.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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| nevitt_smrek wrote: | To quote kevin O'Leary, "I forbid you to proceed."
Although if the Lakers do end up qualifying for postseason, this Jeggs guy should get a gift card to the Lakers team store. |
lol.. |
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TruthBomb
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:03 am Post subject: |
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| Kobe2Clark wrote: | Parker
Kobe
Leonard
Diaw
Splitter
Manu
Green
and decent shooters/role players
That team wins in 2011 and 2013 as well |
Stick to watching Japanese cartoons. |
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venturalakersfan
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:49 am Post subject: |
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| Krispy Kreme wrote: | | part of the reason why duncan has been so successful late in his career has been his willingness to take a big pay cut to make room for other players, along with his F.O/Scouting department being better than ours. |
Only he didn't really make room for other players, he took a pay cut so that his owner could get/keep those players and pay less. They could still have those players if TD were being paid more.
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Who Takes The Blame
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Duncan is gonna get his 6th ring before he retires |
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shnxx
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| kobe shooting nearly 35% every game and taking 30 shots will not get us anywhere, with a good team or a bad team. |
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doughboy90650
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Jeggs
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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We need to get talent. Duncan has a finals MVP and a top 15 player in Kawhi Leonard...another top 15 player in tony parket...and great role players like green, Splitter, and Diaw.
I think Kobe can get to the finals but he needs talent around him, not 1 year 1 million contract guys...it's that simple. |
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lakersken80
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Not with this roster.... |
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Kobe2Clark
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| The Faceman wrote: | I wonder how Kobe would function under Coach Pop? There are never any overly selfish players in his systems. San Antonio understands the concept of basketball being a team game better than any team I have ever seen. I don't know if that can be instilled into Kobe at this stage in his career.
Just a thought not really related to the OP's point. |
Kobe isn't selfish. He just doesn't trust his teammates and I don't blame him
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Runway8
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Kobe2Clark wrote: | Parker
Kobe
Leonard
Diaw
Splitter
Manu
Green
and decent shooters/role players
That team wins in 2011 and 2013 as well |
No.
You build a team around Kobe completely different that you would build around Duncan. They are not interchangeable parts, and you grossly underestimate the value of Duncan protecting the paint. That team was built for play centering between the CENTER and the POINT and both are willing passers to their shooters.
It's more agreeable to say if you switch Parker with Kobe. Or if you switch Manu with Kobe and let Kobe play that Manu roll because they are basically duplicates. But Manu is less volume so he fits. |
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fan4life
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Kobe2Clark wrote: | | The Faceman wrote: | I wonder how Kobe would function under Coach Pop? There are never any overly selfish players in his systems. San Antonio understands the concept of basketball being a team game better than any team I have ever seen. I don't know if that can be instilled into Kobe at this stage in his career.
Just a thought not really related to the OP's point. |
Kobe isn't selfish. He just doesn't trust his teammates and I don't blame him |
He's had trouble trusting teammates, even on championship teams. It's his flaw and something that he hasn't been able to fix. |
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yinoma2001
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I think duncan is quite happy with his situation, even if he's making less $ than kobe. Kobe and duncan are such different personalities and the things that drove kobe (ie having to be the best player on every team) didn't drive duncan. Well kobe is the unquestioned best player on this team. So he has that i guess.
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Jeggs
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Outside of trading Kobe were not going to be able to put a balanced team together. From a team perspective I am for trading Kobe. I can watch Kobe break records on another team, and I get to watch the lakers win more games. I don't think we lose much by trading Kobe as fans. The only thing is for this to happen Kobe would have to be traded to a contender...and no contender could absorb Kobe's contract without sacrificing the assets they have that make them contenders in the first place.
I still think New York is the right destination for Kobe. But getting Amare doesn't make us contenders, it just gives us the capability to reload that much more quicker this coming off season. |
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lakersken80
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Jeggs wrote: | Outside of trading Kobe were not going to be able to put a balanced team together. From a team perspective I am for trading Kobe. I can watch Kobe break records on another team, and I get to watch the lakers win more games. I don't think we lose much by trading Kobe as fans. The only thing is for this to happen Kobe would have to be traded to a contender...and no contender could absorb Kobe's contract without sacrificing the assets they have that make them contenders in the first place.
I still think New York is the right destination for Kobe. But getting Amare doesn't make us contenders, it just gives us the capability to reload that much more quicker this coming off season. |
If they trade for Amare, lets just say that the attendance for Lakers games would drop off like a rock....but they would get under from Kobe's contract one year early and be able to amass more pieces faster. |
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shark-lin
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| We don't have Popovich as coach |
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