they both suck, but the annoying thing about Marshall is I never felt like he played to win. I see the guy pass up shots time and time again hoping to pile up his assist numbers basically making himself a liability on offense, and his defense is nothing to write home about. I hate players like that.
Marshall cant shoot either, although he is a better passer but much worse defender. I'll take Price, thank you
we gotta stop making things up to blindly justify moves for "lakers sake." god knows we don't do the right thing more than half the time and that just ends up looking foolish. kendall shot 40 from 3, moved the ball well and set people up. you can talk dantodi's offense all you want, but 8.8 dimes is what it is and he did improve his shooting.
truth is this team currently has no one besides kobe that can create for and set up a big at the cup. if you want talk about a product of a system, look to our current starting pg. this defensive thing is overstated also. you can't attribute all the offensive pluses to dantoni w/o giving blame to his defensive philosophy either.
you don't waive a 2nd year player getting you 9 dimes making less than a mill...except we did and now the natural reaction is to defend it.
Marshall cant shoot either, although he is a better passer but much worse defender. I'll take Price, thank you
we gotta stop making things up to blindly justify moves for "lakers sake." god knows we don't do the right thing more than half the time and that just ends up looking foolish. kendall shot 40 from 3, moved the ball well and set people up. you can talk dantodi's offense all you want, but 8.8 dimes is what it is and he did improve his shooting.
truth is this team currently has no one besides kobe that can create for and set up a big at the cup. if you want talk about a product of a system, look to our current starting pg. this defensive thing is overstated also. you can't attribute all the offensive pluses to dantoni w/o giving blame to his defensive philosophy either.
you don't waive a 2nd year player getting you 9 dimes making less than a mill...except we did and now the natural reaction is to defend it.
kendall just got guaranteed, too.
Was there any doubt he wouldn't?
Anyway, Price is the better defender, Marshall is the better passer, both are inconsistent shooters.
Kendall is played behind Bayless because they prefer Bayless' defense.
Ronnie is played because the starting lineup needs his defense.
Both will have the task to shoot off ball when open and neither is gonna create their own shot very well.
Considering the Lakers only let Marshall go(with the intention of re-signing him mind you) is because they won the bid on Boozer.
And in the aftermath of the unfortunate injury to Randle, having Boozer is a pretty big move in hindsight now.
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Price's defense looked serviceable in preseason, and probably looked great in practice against his teammates, but I thought he kinda got exposed tonight against real NBA competition. Certainly not the defensive stopper he was billed as.
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Rawr wrote:
If Marshall had figured out how to hit hit open 3's or defend he would have been a good PG to have on the roster.
Unfortunately it just didn't happen. His shooting was downright atrocious in the summer league and his defense was still non-existent.
His passing ability is on par with the best PG's in the league though, and I hope he finds success in the league.
Why does everyone say Marshall was a bad shooter? He was 40% from three point range and at one point was second in the league in accuracy. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
If Marshall had figured out how to hit hit open 3's or defend he would have been a good PG to have on the roster.
Unfortunately it just didn't happen. His shooting was downright atrocious in the summer league and his defense was still non-existent.
His passing ability is on par with the best PG's in the league though, and I hope he finds success in the league.
Why does everyone say Marshall was a bad shooter? He was 40% from three point range and at one point was second in the league in accuracy.
because in order to justify getting rid of a kid who actually improved, the blind fan predictably went to the college scouting report. i mean stats and gameplay mean nothing if chad ford said something to the contrary two years ago, right?
Marshall was god awful. Not to mention he was extremely arrogant and condescending. I remember him mocking Swaggy P and not admitting he was wrong for not going to his aid in Phoenix and saying Nick had to know that they were short a few players and can't do things like that. Of course, I'm paraphrasing but ever since that, that turned me off completely from being a fan. That and the fact that he wasn't a good player anyways. I already like Ronnie more.
i seriously thought i was the only person noticing this. in post game interviews, he came off so cocky and full of himself.
like really? i couldn't understand where it was coming from.
i wanted to root for him, but he was so unlikable to me. the day he threw Swaggy under the bus sealed it for me too.
Price ticks all the athletic markers for defensive purposes, even at age 31. Marshall can pass, and has a tightrope three pointer, but everything else is a real downer, particularly his lack of defense and lack of athleticism. I also think his personality is too laid back. Price is a warrior. So it's obvious I'm going to go with Price.
If Marshall had figured out how to hit hit open 3's or defend he would have been a good PG to have on the roster.
Unfortunately it just didn't happen. His shooting was downright atrocious in the summer league and his defense was still non-existent.
His passing ability is on par with the best PG's in the league though, and I hope he finds success in the league.
Why does everyone say Marshall was a bad shooter? He was 40% from three point range and at one point was second in the league in accuracy.
This. He's above league average from 3 in his career (38%). There's no comparison between him and Price offensively. Marshall's a lot younger too. (He's a bad FT shooter, though but he's making the minimum, gonna have flaws) _________________ Championships since NBA/ABA merger in '76: Lakers 10 - Celtics 5 - Clippers 0 --- Phil Jackson 10 - Doc Rivers 1
Marshall couldn't shoot for jack (bleep), and the only reason he was getting those crazy assist numbers was because we were so depleted at PG that we needed him to play big minutes.
I will take Ronnie's defense over anything Marshall could do offensively...because Marshall was put up zero resistance on defense. The fact that Ronnie plays defense very well is easily more valuable from a one year journey man than a guy who was pretty much just a negative.
Far as I heard Kidd isn't giving him much of a chance, has Bayless and Knight ahead of him in the rotation and refers to Marshall as a "left handed reliever."
That's not good cause it makes it seem pointless they extended him if Kidd wasn't gonna use him, and even worse that he's there for the year.
So he's basically only there to relieve and to step in in case someone gets injured. Means that Milwaukee signed him just to be ****'s to the Lakers who were gonna re-sign him in the following 4 hours.
Dimes are good alright, but a PG who is not offensive threat and plays NO D is not good for a team. Marshall can't shoot!!!! AT ALL!!! Plays no damn D. Price is the better player, and will only improve as time goes on _________________ New Beginings
I didn't see Marshall play much (only pre-season this year yikes) but from highlights last year he looked great. Was surprised he was cut especially with that contract.
When will we just accept, that a high assist PG just isn't going to work next to Kobe? It works in theory, it just never works in reality.
If we're going to talk PGs, we ought to be looking at one more in the mold of a Derek Fisher. Good spot up 3pt shooter, doesn't need ball to be effective.
Marshall would be almost pointless on the court next to Kobe.
When will we just accept, that a high assist PG just isn't going to work next to Kobe? It works in theory, it just never works in reality.
If we're going to talk PGs, we ought to be looking at one more in the mold of a Derek Fisher. Good spot up 3pt shooter, doesn't need ball to be effective.
Marshall would be almost pointless on the court next to Kobe.
But they never played together so you dont know that for certain.
Secondly, who are all of these high assist point guards that kobe has played with that have allowed us to get a good sample size of games in which he shared the floor with such a player to make that determination? We all know what Fisher was, and he played 13 seasons here. Payton was unable to play as a high assist pg when he got here due to the nature of the triangle offense. Sessions wasn't here even a full season, and he and Nash haven't even played a season's worth of total games in three seasons together. Outside of sessions(arguably) and nash, who fits the bill of high assist pg that kobe has struggled with while playing outside of the triangle? It never worked in reality because the option never presented itself in reality, I have no doubt that kobe could play next to a high assist pg. The system he played in almost his entire career, combined with personnel that didn't fit the mold of a high assist pg has more to do with this than anything else.
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