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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:49 am    Post subject: Opinion on Al Jefferson

What is your opinion on Al Jefferson?

When you see highlights of him, he seems effective on offense with is short range hook, or one handed throw, and a rebounder.

But many times he is something like 12-25, atrocious when shooting at point blank range, as he has no game besides that, his jumper is a misery. In some games I have seen, he seems lazy on defense, including defensive rebounding.

The media seem to love and prais "Big Al", though.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:43 am    Post subject: Re: Opinion on Al Jefferson

carlosLisboa wrote:
What is your opinion on Al Jefferson?

When you see highlights of him, he seems effective on offense with is short range hook, or one handed throw, and a rebounder.

But many times he is something like 12-25, atrocious when shooting at point blank range, as he has no game besides that, his jumper is a misery. In some games I have seen, he seems lazy on defense, including defensive rebounding.

The media seem to love and prais "Big Al", though.


His body is not precisely built for basketball, and that´s the reason he´s never been relevant and never will, but I love to watch players who overcome poor physical skills with basketball talent. His post moves against faster and taller guys are sometimes unbelievable.

The kind of guy I love to watch but I wouldn´t want in my team.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:54 am    Post subject:

Black hole and no defense.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:46 am    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
Black hole and no defense.


Pre-Memphis Zach Randolph with a bit more scoring ability and less rebounding prowess?

Heck, I might even delete "Pre-Memphis", since Zach didn't really change that much, his team just got better.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:01 am    Post subject: Re: Opinion on Al Jefferson

carlosLisboa wrote:
What is your opinion on Al Jefferson?

When you see highlights of him, he seems effective on offense with is short range hook, or one handed throw, and a rebounder.

But many times he is something like 12-25, atrocious when shooting at point blank range, as he has no game besides that, his jumper is a misery. In some games I have seen, he seems lazy on defense, including defensive rebounding.

The media seem to love and prais "Big Al", though.


The 12-25 notion is correct, but it's a product of him not drawing any fouls.

If he was able to draw FT's, he'd be more in the 12-22 range plus 7-8 FT's.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:18 pm    Post subject:

I remember what a great trade Danny Ainge said when he got KG for Al Jefferson, Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, Theo Ratliff, Sebastian Telfair, and draft picks...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:10 pm    Post subject:

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Black hole and no defense.


Pre-Memphis Zach Randolph with a bit more scoring ability and less rebounding prowess?

Heck, I might even delete "Pre-Memphis", since Zach didn't really change that much, his team just got better.


Yup, Zach benefits greatly from Marc Gasol
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:23 am    Post subject: Re: Opinion on Al Jefferson

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carlosLisboa wrote:
What is your opinion on Al Jefferson?

When you see highlights of him, he seems effective on offense with is short range hook, or one handed throw, and a rebounder.

But many times he is something like 12-25, atrocious when shooting at point blank range, as he has no game besides that, his jumper is a misery. In some games I have seen, he seems lazy on defense, including defensive rebounding.

The media seem to love and prais "Big Al", though.


The 12-25 notion is correct, but it's a product of him not drawing any fouls.

If he was able to draw FT's, he'd be more in the 12-22 range plus 7-8 FT's.


For sure. The lack for fouls called on him is due to keeping away from the paint?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:14 pm    Post subject:

Rare possible 20-10 dude. Would love to have him on the box.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Opinion on Al Jefferson

carlosLisboa wrote:
lakers0505 wrote:
carlosLisboa wrote:
What is your opinion on Al Jefferson?

When you see highlights of him, he seems effective on offense with is short range hook, or one handed throw, and a rebounder.

But many times he is something like 12-25, atrocious when shooting at point blank range, as he has no game besides that, his jumper is a misery. In some games I have seen, he seems lazy on defense, including defensive rebounding.

The media seem to love and prais "Big Al", though.


The 12-25 notion is correct, but it's a product of him not drawing any fouls.

If he was able to draw FT's, he'd be more in the 12-22 range plus 7-8 FT's.


For sure. The lack for fouls called on him is due to keeping away from the paint?


I haven't seen him enough but probably an athletic limitation, so he does pretty well I'd say.

Look at James Harden he might be shotting 20% without his ability to draw fouls
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:03 pm    Post subject:

I love Al Jefferson. One of my favorite players. Basically unguardable one on one. It's amazing what he has been able to do in Charlotte without shooters around him.

Part of his reputation on defense is that he doesn't contest shots when guys come into the paint. But he does a decent job dropping back and containing penetration as well as getting the board.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:27 am    Post subject:

Great post game, can't defend.

What you'd figure Jahlil Okafor's upside is, Okafor would be just a little more athletic though.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:38 pm    Post subject:

Jefferson is kind of the role model for Monroe. Throwback game that puts up numbers if you feed him the rock, never seeks to have much win vs loss impact though. Classic empty stat guy.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 4:47 pm    Post subject:

Al Jefferson's game is so much like Zach Randolph's. both don't have your typical cut NBA bodies, but both of them has that old man's game you see at your local gym, don't know how they do it, but they can flat out score in the paint.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:19 pm    Post subject:

Stud player who tires out without an elite wing to take the pressure off.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:02 pm    Post subject:

Lol - two threads in one day on Hornets players. Slow day.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:04 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:07 pm    Post subject:

Great on offense when he's on but when he's not he cant do much on the court. Cant carry a team on his back and thats one of the reasons the hornets are struggling. They also lack a shot blocking stretch four - like most teams do - so yeah, difficult player to build around
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 11:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Opinion on Al Jefferson

carlosLisboa wrote:
What is your opinion on Al Jefferson?

When you see highlights of him, he seems effective on offense with is short range hook, or one handed throw, and a rebounder.

But many times he is something like 12-25, atrocious when shooting at point blank range, as he has no game besides that, his jumper is a misery. In some games I have seen, he seems lazy on defense, including defensive rebounding.

The media seem to love and prais "Big Al", though.


Al isn't really a point blank range guy, he shoots more mid range than at the rim, but his majority of shots are that 5-8 foot thing, his problem really is he takes those midrange shots and he isn't any good at them (unlike say Al Horford whose awkward motion is surprisingly effective).

I think McBob is their biggest loss, somewhat similar to phoenix in that the lack of the stretch 4 has choked the interior.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:25 am    Post subject:

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CandyCanes wrote:
Black hole and no defense.


Pre-Memphis Zach Randolph with a bit more scoring ability and less rebounding prowess?

Heck, I might even delete "Pre-Memphis", since Zach didn't really change that much, his team just got better.


Zach actually passes out of double teams now. Zach has changed his game a lot since he's been with Memphis, big Al on the other hand not so much still a black hole with vast array of post moves on the block
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 9:34 pm    Post subject:

Overrated player. Jefferson doesn't play defense or make the players around him better.
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