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jodeke
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 Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:47 pm Post subject: The profoundness of Dr Martin Luther King |
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Is America a Sheep or a Goat?
I'm captured by Dr Kings simple but pounding use of the Kings English. The description of his thoughts are poetic yet easily understood by any who can read.
This was inspired by a pilots discourse.
| Quote: | | In any social revolution there are times when the tail winds of triumph and fulfillment favor us, and other times when strong head winds of disappointment and setbacks beat against us relentlessly. We must not permit adverse winds to overwhelm us as we journey across life’s mighty Atlantic; we must be sustained by our engines of courage in spite of the winds. This refusal to be stopped, this ‘courage to be,’ this determination to go on ‘in spite of’ is the hallmark of any great movement. |
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| Greatest American orator since Abraham Lincoln. |
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jodeke
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| jonnybravo wrote: | | Greatest American orator since Abraham Lincoln. |
Dr Kings voice inflections added so much to his speeches. It was like he was singing. True spoken word.
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The good thing about having gamily from Alabama is I never have to go to the library or get online to gather information. My grandparents were in that Selma march. And they were around Dr. King when bricks were being thrown. My parents were in their twenties when all that went down and saw how Dr. King uplifted many people in the South. But like many families in the South, they were apart of that black flight movement to California looking for better opportunities.
Just a blessing to have him here for almost 40 years. Wish it were longer. His sermons and speeches were just legendary. |
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The one thing that has always bothered me about Dr. King's memory ever since I was old enough to read and listen to his message and understand it, is that he is portrayed as being a proponent of black progress. He was a proponent of human progress, no matter the race.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | The one thing that has always bothered me about Dr. King's memory ever since I was old enough to read and listen to his message and understand it, is that he is portrayed as being a proponent of black progress. He was a proponent of human progress, no matter the race. |
pretty much ..... |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | The one thing that has always bothered me about Dr. King's memory ever since I was old enough to read and listen to his message and understand it, is that he is portrayed as being a proponent of black progress. He was a proponent of human progress, no matter the race. |
The two are not mutually exclusive and to somehow equate the two in his mind is mind boggling. Sure he was a proponent of human progress, but he was a champion and a warrior for the rights of blacks. There was no equivalency there insofar as to his primary concern.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2015 9:24 pm Post subject: Re: The profoundness of Dr King |
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| jodeke wrote: | LINK
Is America a Sheep or a Goat?
I'm captured by Dr Kings simple but pounding use of the Kings English. The description of his thoughts are poetic yet easily understood by any who can read.
This was inspired by a pilots discourse.
| Quote: | | In any social revolution there are times when the tail winds of triumph and fulfillment favor us, and other times when strong head winds of disappointment and setbacks beat against us relentlessly. We must not permit adverse winds to overwhelm us as we journey across life’s mighty Atlantic; we must be sustained by our engines of courage in spite of the winds. This refusal to be stopped, this ‘courage to be,’ this determination to go on ‘in spite of’ is the hallmark of any great movement. |
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Dr. King was an extremely talented orator, one of the greatest the Western World has known. He was born with a natural ability, but it was honed in Theology School where he and his cohort group used this ability as a measuring stick and social standing. He was a rising star early on because of this. His appointment to Dexter Avenue Baptist Church was largely based on this skill.
My favorite work of his is "Letter from a Birmingham Jail."
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| KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | The one thing that has always bothered me about Dr. King's memory ever since I was old enough to read and listen to his message and understand it, is that he is portrayed as being a proponent of black progress. He was a proponent of human progress, no matter the race. |
The two are not mutually exclusive and to somehow equate the two in his mind is mind boggling. Sure he was a proponent of human progress, but he was a champion and a warrior for the rights of blacks. There was no equivalency there insofar as to his primary concern. |
His primary concern was injustice. |
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| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | The one thing that has always bothered me about Dr. King's memory ever since I was old enough to read and listen to his message and understand it, is that he is portrayed as being a proponent of black progress. He was a proponent of human progress, no matter the race. |
The two are not mutually exclusive and to somehow equate the two in his mind is mind boggling. Sure he was a proponent of human progress, but he was a champion and a warrior for the rights of blacks. There was no equivalency there insofar as to his primary concern. |
His primary concern was injustice. |
And at the time the greatest injustice was agaisnt blacks.
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| Thirty freaking nine. That's it. We wuz robbed. He was just exploring his broader view or rather just beginning to express it. It interests me that Malcolm was seeing world struggles too. Both had more to offer, and their sheer leadership talents would have brought us along further in their respective ways. I always wondered where we might be had MLK lived into his 50s, 60s. Died long before I lived but feel a loss anyway. What a legacy in 39 years. |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | The one thing that has always bothered me about Dr. King's memory ever since I was old enough to read and listen to his message and understand it, is that he is portrayed as being a proponent of black progress. He was a proponent of human progress, no matter the race. |
The two are not mutually exclusive and to somehow equate the two in his mind is mind boggling. Sure he was a proponent of human progress, but he was a champion and a warrior for the rights of blacks. There was no equivalency there insofar as to his primary concern. |
His primary concern was injustice. |
You guys are completely missing the mark. He went to Dexter Avenue as a stepping stone to what he felt would be a long career as a pastor in the black Church. The MIA was completely thrust upon him and then the movement for black suffer age and rights drafted him as it's champion. Oh sure, later,he began to see the interconnectedness of the two issues and maybe he would have evolved into the person you're. But from 1955 until his death, the overwhelming amount of time and energy was spent as an advocate for black rights.
And at the time the greatest injustice was agaisnt blacks. |
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His voice, his spoken as well as written language are quite fascinating. However, not everyone can interpret all the meanings of his speeches (I'm included).
I appreciate and admire all his work and speeches. |
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| Quote: | | Years later, in his Letter from Birmingham Jail, King would write something very similar: "We are all caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly." |
http://www.vox.com/2015/1/19/7852311/martin-luther-king-faith
That last sentence is true Love |
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