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misterrunon Star Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:45 pm Post subject: Swaggy P + 2nd rounder for Lance Stephenson + 1st |
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What do you guys think about that?
Bobcats desperately need shooters, and that's what Swaggy does best. They also have no need for Lance Stephenson, whose stock is at an all-time low. He has 2 years remaining after this one, with the 2nd year a team option. It would be like a 1 year rental to get a better pick. It will free up even more money after next year when Kobe comes off the books.
Here's how it breaks down.
Lakers outgoing: Swaggy P + future 2nd rounder, protected 31-40
Lakers incoming: Lance Stephenson + future 1st rounder from Charlotte, protected 1-14. |
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dmorans1 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:13 am Post subject: |
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I would. I would even do it without the pick. Young's deal runs for one more year than Stephenson's so more cap space in 2016. Doubt they would do it if they have to give up a 1st. |
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kaoss128 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:58 am Post subject: |
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Absolutely. But we'd probably have to give up the Houston pick to get Charlotte's pick. |
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KobeRe-Loaded Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:05 am Post subject: |
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Young for Stephenson straight up is enough. _________________ #11/08/16 America became GREAT again
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Hector the Pup Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Charlotte would never do that. If you think Stephenson's stock is low, take a look at Young's.
You can't call someone a shooter when they're below 40% from the field. |
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Bard207 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:29 pm Post subject: Re: Swaggy P + 2nd rounder for Lance Stephenson + 1st |
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misterrunon wrote: |
Lakers incoming: Lance Stephenson + future 1st rounder from Charlotte, protected 1-14. |
Philly will also have Cap Space and they have a plethora of future picks.
I would expect Philly to make a more favorable offer if the Hornets are going to include a First Round pick (Protected 1 - 14) to move Lance's contract.
Then Charlotte could make a separate decision on a possible trade for Nick. |
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Don Draper Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Hector the Pup wrote: | Charlotte would never do that. If you think Stephenson's stock is low, take a look at Young's.
You can't call someone a shooter when they're below 40% from the field. |
They could spin it and say "well Swag isn't working out for us, Lance ain't working out for you, let's swap and see what happens."
Then again this is our FO. The deal would probably end up being Clarkson and our 1st for Gerald Henderson. |
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Hector the Pup Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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Don Draper wrote: | Hector the Pup wrote: | Charlotte would never do that. If you think Stephenson's stock is low, take a look at Young's.
You can't call someone a shooter when they're below 40% from the field. |
They could spin it and say "well Swag isn't working out for us, Lance ain't working out for you, let's swap and see what happens."
Then again this is our FO. The deal would probably end up being Clarkson and our 1st for Gerald Henderson. |
I trust the FO more than I do 99.9% of the folks who post here. If I actually listed all of the crap they suggested in terms of trades, draft picks and signings in one place they would be humiliated if they had any pride. |
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a2j1m Star Player
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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I don't see CHA giving a 1st for Nick Ypung |
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LakersForever123 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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a2j1m wrote: | I don't see CHA giving a 1st for Nick Ypung |
i do see charlotte giving their second round pick (39th pick) for young.
maybe we can snag another "clarkson" with this pick. |
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misterrunon Star Player
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah I don't think Charlotte would give a first for swaggy either..
But I just thought of another proposal that could work: Swaggy P + Hous 27th pick for Taj Gibson. |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:02 am Post subject: |
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This trade is like trading crap for throw up.
Lets trade Swaggy after he bounces back next year. Otherwise we're going to get horrible value coming back. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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SDLakersFan Star Player
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:17 am Post subject: |
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Hell yeah I'd do it. Lance was a terrible fit for the Hornets but he's still only 24 with the potential to be a 16/6/5 guy with the right team. |
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The Shadow King Star Player
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:33 am Post subject: |
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No one would give us a pick for Nick Young. _________________ Lakers, today. Lakers, tomorrow. Lakers, forever. |
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rwongega Franchise Player
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Outspoken Star Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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lance is trash and a bad locker room person. no deal. |
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Tark the Shark Star Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 7:44 am Post subject: |
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Of course the Lakers would do that, but I doubt Charlotte is that stupid. |
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West24Bryant Sixth Man
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:22 am Post subject: |
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rwongega wrote: | I'd do that. Charlotte would laugh though. |
This |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:15 am Post subject: |
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dmorans1 wrote: | I would. I would even do it without the pick. Young's deal runs for one more year than Stephenson's so more cap space in 2016. Doubt they would do it if they have to give up a 1st. |
I would only do it for the pick. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Outspoken Star Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Tark the Shark wrote: | Of course the Lakers would do that, but I doubt Charlotte is that stupid. |
to trade for lance, the lakers would be the stupid ones. |
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Tark the Shark Star Player
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Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 7:30 am Post subject: |
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Outspoken wrote: | Tark the Shark wrote: | Of course the Lakers would do that, but I doubt Charlotte is that stupid. |
to trade for lance, the lakers would be the stupid ones. |
How?
Lakers get a first plus a young two way player on essentially a 1 year contract. Yes, the player is a headcase but he has talent on both sides of the court.
Lakers get rid of a one dimensional clown on a long term deal that's going to be on the wrong side of 30. If Young was a good veteran presence and mentor, I'd say keep him. However, he's just as immature as he was when he came into the league and he hasn't improved. If anything, he will continue to regress. |
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Treble Clef Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 9:26 am Post subject: |
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The Lakers would have to throw in a pick for someone to take Young. Just like the Rockets had to do with Lin. |
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RetroNikes Star Player
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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No. |
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Lakers_Jester Star Player
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Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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"Uhh. Let it soak in. Like seasonin. Tell them b words blow me. Lance stephenson."
-Nicki minaj |
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:Worthy Mamba Magic: Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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Lance is a fool and so is Swaggy. Lance is 24 and has shown he is a beast in the playoffs. He was carrying the Pacers during their playoff runs. Swaggy is a fool as well but hes 30 and plays ZERO D. I would make this move and possible salvage Lance's career with us. He was one of the top free agents a year ago and Swaggy is just a gunner. Worth the risk imo _________________ :Formally The Gr8 Lakes circa 2002: Yes I'm old school
Illiterate's could read the literature in my scriptures... |
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