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bonkers
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| What would the max be for someone like LeBron when that cap spikes? 30M? |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | Quote: | | New salary cap projections sent out to NBA teams: 2015-16: 67.1 million, tax 81.6, 2016-17: 89 million, tax 108. 2017-18: 108, 127 tax |
| Quote: | | NBA Salary cap projected to rise by over 22 million between 2015 and 2016. That's a pretty big jump. Not official until audit around July 10 |
| Quote: | | Further projections sent out: 2018-19: 100 million salary cap, 121 tax , 2019-20: 102 salary cap, 124 tax, 2020-2021:107 salary cap, 130 tax |
| Quote: | | Obviously a 40 million dollar jump in the salary cap between 2016 and 2018 is going to be very very interesting for teams, players & agents. |
| Quote: | | Would be shocked if better players decide to sign four year deals this summer (w/no outs) with amount of money coming in the next few years. |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | Quote: | | New salary cap projections sent out to NBA teams: 2015-16: 67.1 million, tax 81.6, 2016-17: 89 million, tax 108. 2017-18: 108, 127 tax |
| Quote: | | NBA Salary cap projected to rise by over 22 million between 2015 and 2016. That's a pretty big jump. Not official until audit around July 10 |
| Quote: | | Further projections sent out: 2018-19: 100 million salary cap, 121 tax , 2019-20: 102 salary cap, 124 tax, 2020-2021:107 salary cap, 130 tax |
| Quote: | | Obviously a 40 million dollar jump in the salary cap between 2016 and 2018 is going to be very very interesting for teams, players & agents. |
| Quote: | | Would be shocked if better players decide to sign four year deals this summer (w/no outs) with amount of money coming in the next few years. |
https://twitter.com/DraftExpress |
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Hopefully. |
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dont_be_a_wuss
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| Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| bonkers wrote: | | What would the max be for someone like LeBron when that cap spikes? 30M? |
35% of the cap for a 10 year vet. So 31.5 based on 89M and 37.8 based on 108M |
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Outspoken wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | Quote: | | New salary cap projections sent out to NBA teams: 2015-16: 67.1 million, tax 81.6, 2016-17: 89 million, tax 108. 2017-18: 108, 127 tax |
| Quote: | | NBA Salary cap projected to rise by over 22 million between 2015 and 2016. That's a pretty big jump. Not official until audit around July 10 |
| Quote: | | Further projections sent out: 2018-19: 100 million salary cap, 121 tax , 2019-20: 102 salary cap, 124 tax, 2020-2021:107 salary cap, 130 tax |
| Quote: | | Obviously a 40 million dollar jump in the salary cap between 2016 and 2018 is going to be very very interesting for teams, players & agents. |
| Quote: | | Would be shocked if better players decide to sign four year deals this summer (w/no outs) with amount of money coming in the next few years. |
https://twitter.com/DraftExpress |
Pelinka and Kobe huddling together somewhere. |
Hopefully. |
Hopefully talking about retirement life.
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lar9149
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| Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| So with this news the Lakers should only be signing one year contracts next year if possible? |
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mhan00
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| lar9149 wrote: | | So with this news the Lakers should only be signing one year contracts next year if possible? |
The ideal situation would have us locking down a true max guy for a long term contract based on the current max, not the increased max based on the bigger salary cap later. |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:21 am Post subject: |
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| mhan00 wrote: | | lar9149 wrote: | | So with this news the Lakers should only be signing one year contracts next year if possible? |
The ideal situation would have us locking down a true max guy for a long term contract based on the current max, not the increased max based on the bigger salary cap later. |
I dont understand why a true max guy would sign a long term contract though, if he knows a huge difference by just waiting one year. Risk yeah, but reward, oh yeah. If Im Lamarcus Alridge, don't I just sign a one year deal, and go out again for big payday? If great players were avail why would they handcuff themselves over the longer term - 1 year. |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:27 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Outspoken wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | Quote: | | New salary cap projections sent out to NBA teams: 2015-16: 67.1 million, tax 81.6, 2016-17: 89 million, tax 108. 2017-18: 108, 127 tax |
| Quote: | | NBA Salary cap projected to rise by over 22 million between 2015 and 2016. That's a pretty big jump. Not official until audit around July 10 |
| Quote: | | Further projections sent out: 2018-19: 100 million salary cap, 121 tax , 2019-20: 102 salary cap, 124 tax, 2020-2021:107 salary cap, 130 tax |
| Quote: | | Obviously a 40 million dollar jump in the salary cap between 2016 and 2018 is going to be very very interesting for teams, players & agents. |
| Quote: | | Would be shocked if better players decide to sign four year deals this summer (w/no outs) with amount of money coming in the next few years. |
https://twitter.com/DraftExpress |
Pelinka and Kobe huddling together somewhere. |
Hopefully. |
Hopefully talking about retirement life. |
I'll remember that when he plays 65+ games this upcoming season and puts up 20-21 points and 5 assists a game.
But I know you pretty well. You'd be happy to be wrong. You have no ill will toward Mamba.
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lakeshowtacular
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Who do you offer a max to this off-season?
If they are trying to maximize their earning power, it is actually detrimental for any player to max out this off-season?
It always seemed like this would be a weak free-agent class comparatively, any one worth maxing will probably stay with their teams.
LMA, Gasol, Dragic, etc...
Does this mean love and rondo become 1 year possibilities? Can you offer someone a one year Max deal?
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:32 am Post subject: |
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| kikanga wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Outspoken wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | Quote: | | New salary cap projections sent out to NBA teams: 2015-16: 67.1 million, tax 81.6, 2016-17: 89 million, tax 108. 2017-18: 108, 127 tax |
| Quote: | | NBA Salary cap projected to rise by over 22 million between 2015 and 2016. That's a pretty big jump. Not official until audit around July 10 |
| Quote: | | Further projections sent out: 2018-19: 100 million salary cap, 121 tax , 2019-20: 102 salary cap, 124 tax, 2020-2021:107 salary cap, 130 tax |
| Quote: | | Obviously a 40 million dollar jump in the salary cap between 2016 and 2018 is going to be very very interesting for teams, players & agents. |
| Quote: | | Would be shocked if better players decide to sign four year deals this summer (w/no outs) with amount of money coming in the next few years. |
https://twitter.com/DraftExpress |
Pelinka and Kobe huddling together somewhere. |
Hopefully. |
Hopefully talking about retirement life. |
I'll remember that when he plays 65+ games this upcoming season and puts up 20-21 points and 5 assists a game.
But I know you pretty well. You'd be happy to be wrong. You have no ill will toward Mamba. |
Oh. Not this again. 
Honestly, I'll be happy if he plays 50 games, 20/5/5. Goes out without getting hurt, walks off into the beautiful Pacific Ocean sunset and happy retirement.
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Chronicle
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:13 am Post subject: |
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Kobe is not retiring next season.
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yinoma2001
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| Chronicle wrote: | | Kobe is not retiring next season. |
In 2015, of course not. But in 2016 there's a good shot he will.
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Peoples Hernandez
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| LakersRGolden wrote: | This sort of makes it all-or-nothing. Everyone will have a max slot, so you either need 2+ Max guys colluding with another starter, or you need to be one star away from serious contention because anyone worth having will have 20+ teams to choose from.
So, this off-season will determine how screwed we are in '16 |
Interesting theory... And I buy into it completely. We need the right kind of "starter" though so we can play the Heat colluding game.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| focus wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: | | lar9149 wrote: | | So with this news the Lakers should only be signing one year contracts next year if possible? |
The ideal situation would have us locking down a true max guy for a long term contract based on the current max, not the increased max based on the bigger salary cap later. |
I dont understand why a true max guy would sign a long term contract though, if he knows a huge difference by just waiting one year. Risk yeah, but reward, oh yeah. If Im Lamarcus Alridge, don't I just sign a one year deal, and go out again for big payday? If great players were avail why would they handcuff themselves over the longer term - 1 year. |
Any max signed this of season will have a 2 or 3 year opt out, so the player would get his max now and the new max when he opts out. That minimizes risk.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | focus wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: | | lar9149 wrote: | | So with this news the Lakers should only be signing one year contracts next year if possible? |
The ideal situation would have us locking down a true max guy for a long term contract based on the current max, not the increased max based on the bigger salary cap later. |
I dont understand why a true max guy would sign a long term contract though, if he knows a huge difference by just waiting one year. Risk yeah, but reward, oh yeah. If Im Lamarcus Alridge, don't I just sign a one year deal, and go out again for big payday? If great players were avail why would they handcuff themselves over the longer term - 1 year. |
Any max signed this of season will have a 2 or 3 year opt out, so the player would get his max now and the new max when he opts out. That minimizes risk. |
True, especially in light of the max jumping again in 17-18. No player will want to commit long term until that ball drops. |
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| watch Mitch gives Kobe $40 mil in 2016. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Alpha wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | focus wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: | | lar9149 wrote: | | So with this news the Lakers should only be signing one year contracts next year if possible? |
The ideal situation would have us locking down a true max guy for a long term contract based on the current max, not the increased max based on the bigger salary cap later. |
I dont understand why a true max guy would sign a long term contract though, if he knows a huge difference by just waiting one year. Risk yeah, but reward, oh yeah. If Im Lamarcus Alridge, don't I just sign a one year deal, and go out again for big payday? If great players were avail why would they handcuff themselves over the longer term - 1 year. |
Any max signed this of season will have a 2 or 3 year opt out, so the player would get his max now and the new max when he opts out. That minimizes risk. |
True, especially in light of the max jumping again in 17-18. No player will want to commit long term until that ball drops. |
Then again, a similar situation happened way back when players like Lebron and bosh were negotiating their rookie contract extensions, and decided to take less years so that they could make more with their next contract. I think Melo took the other route and signed for max years max dollars because he wanted the guaranteed money and years. Nobody knows what might happen in 2 years - injuries are unpredictable. Some risk averse player might be willing to take the years.
edit: never mind, having a player option on the years eliminates this perceived risk. VLF is completely right. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Alpha wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | focus wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: | | lar9149 wrote: | | So with this news the Lakers should only be signing one year contracts next year if possible? |
The ideal situation would have us locking down a true max guy for a long term contract based on the current max, not the increased max based on the bigger salary cap later. |
I dont understand why a true max guy would sign a long term contract though, if he knows a huge difference by just waiting one year. Risk yeah, but reward, oh yeah. If Im Lamarcus Alridge, don't I just sign a one year deal, and go out again for big payday? If great players were avail why would they handcuff themselves over the longer term - 1 year. |
Any max signed this of season will have a 2 or 3 year opt out, so the player would get his max now and the new max when he opts out. That minimizes risk. |
True, especially in light of the max jumping again in 17-18. No player will want to commit long term until that ball drops. |
For the sake of accuracy, the predicted cap in 17-18 is mostly a mirage based on the assumption that the league will not get all of the huge increase in 2016 spent and thus owe the players a big check, which will trigger a cba mandated bump in 2017 (even though they know it is artificial, hence the cap prediction going down for 2018). But one of the parties will opt out in 17, and thus the cap spike is moot. Could still be a spike if the players gain a larger share, but nothing in revenue growth is tied to that. |
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I think some max guys will want security.
A player like Kevin Love - who was just traded and in a new situation in CLE - may not want to again be on the move a year later.
A player like Aldridge, though, I could see take a 1 year deal and stay in POR then go for the big cash in 2016.
It all really depends on the players mindset, some guys just won't risk saying no to 80-100 million in guaranteed money, when they can get it now. |
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| Quote: | Mike Bresnahan @Mike_Bresnahan 4m4 minutes ago
Laker fans rejoice: Salary cap will go from approx. $67 million next season to about $90 million for 2016-17, NBA Commish Adam Silver said. |
https://twitter.com/Mike_Bresnahan/status/606619698835251200
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Iron Mamba
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| Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 4:56 pm Post subject: NBA Salary Cap in 2016 - Lakers would have $77M to spend |
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Cap for 2016 was just announced as about $90M per NBA, only Lakers under contract as of now until 2016:
- Nick Young $5.4M
- Julius Randle $3.3M
- Okafor/Towns $4.3M
Only $13M tied in contracts for 2016.
This of course doesn't cover any other players we sign this summer. But that is a lot of spending money.
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| Isn't the cap increase not beneficial to the Lakers? Instead of being the few teams that can offer Durant the max, now almost every team can. |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| kbitboc wrote: | | Isn't the cap increase not beneficial to the Lakers? Instead of being the few teams that can offer Durant the max, now almost every team can. |
Sure, but the Lakers could have enough room for Durant and a friend. |
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