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markjay Star Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:27 am Post subject: |
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22 wrote: | Clarkson for ROY |
That would be nice. Unfortunately, Wiggins played so many more minutes than Clarkson that his per game stats are much better. Per 36, Clarkson looks great. |
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Tony Anapolis Star Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:09 am Post subject: |
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markjay wrote: | 22 wrote: | Clarkson for ROY |
That would be nice. Unfortunately, Wiggins played so many more minutes than Clarkson that his per game stats are much better. Per 36, Clarkson looks great. |
Yeah and Wiggins went through the wear and tear of an entire NBA season. |
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Ziggy Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Pretty impressive that Clarkson is able to finish at the rim equally as well despite giving up 3 inches in height. Clarkson just looks like a more polished player already, which is insane considering how raw he looked in summer league. Can't remember if I've ever seen a player develop that much within one single season.
That being said, I think a healthy Rubio is going to take Wiggins' game to the next level in terms of efficiency. When you factor that in with his already solid defense, he'll become a franchise player. This guy still has another 6 or 7 years before he hits his prime.
I'm just excited to see what Clarkson will be able to do with some talent around him next season. The coaches need to keep challenging him to improve, because he still has a lot of untapped potential. |
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watchME Star Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | He's gone outside. | Mike can you please bring out some light on clarksons defense? i feel like he does as good of a good as anyone in the league but people keep saying hes terrible defender...?? which one is it?
To me it looks like hes very diciplined and follows scotts plan.. |
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Chronicle Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:37 am Post subject: |
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watchME wrote: | Mike@LG wrote: | He's gone outside. | Mike can you please bring out some light on clarksons defense? i feel like he does as good of a good as anyone in the league but people keep saying hes terrible defender...?? which one is it?
To me it looks like hes very diciplined and follows scotts plan.. |
Some people are saying that because he has a very low DRPM, an advanced stat.
But part of why it is so low is because the team as a whole was one of the worst in the league.
Clarkson is an average defender. He's not terrible at all, but he's not really that good yet either. He can become a lot better. Imo the area where he struggles the most is pick and roll, but some others have argued against that _________________ Kobe |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:46 am Post subject: |
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watchME wrote: | Mike@LG wrote: | He's gone outside. | Mike can you please bring out some light on clarksons defense? i feel like he does as good of a good as anyone in the league but people keep saying hes terrible defender...?? which one is it?
To me it looks like hes very diciplined and follows scotts plan.. |
He's a man defender who plays with good position. He doesn't really get beat too often, but doesn't have a level of anticipation that is usually expected of guards.
He's an average defender right now, but with the added quickness and his wingspan, could be much more than that, especially in terms of forcing turnovers without gambling position. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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22 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:37 am Post subject: |
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markjay wrote: | 22 wrote: | Clarkson for ROY |
That would be nice. Unfortunately, Wiggins played so many more minutes than Clarkson that his per game stats are much better. Per 36, Clarkson looks great. |
Yeah and Wiggins was the number 1 pick. So he'll likely get it. But as others have noted there are some other players equally deserving |
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999 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:51 am Post subject: |
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wow... those are cool stats.... if Clarkson does develop into a star than...cant wait to hear what all the haters say about the lakers not developing there own talent... |
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VALakerFan80 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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24 wrote: | Thing I noticed about Clarkson is that he takes 80% of his shots in zones where he is average to above average vs the league (and there are a lot of them), and even where he is average (around the rim), average is still very high efficiency.
He's alredy a plus shooter from 3 up top, plus from the elbow areas down on pullups, and average at the rim area. That's a pick and roll nightmare who will only get better. |
Outstanding observation... And I agree BTW. |
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Theseus Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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Seems like Clarkson is taking the shots that he is most capable of making while Wiggins isn't. That is a definite positive for the career outlook for Clarkson, dude definitely has good basketball acumen |
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Heartburn Star Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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Chronicle wrote: | Clarkson is really good at the rim. |
TWSS. |
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SeanRooks Sixth Man
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: How Good is Jordan Clarkson vs. Andrew Wiggins (shooting stats)? |
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Mike@LG wrote: | Randomly checking basketball reference, and this is what I found:
Jordan Clarkson
FG% by Distance
0-3' 66.5%
3'-10' 32.4%
10'-16' 47.6%
16'-21' 38.6%
3point 31.5%
FGA by Distance
0-3' 28.5%
3'-10' 18.1%
10'-16' 10.6%
16'-21' 22.1%
3point 20.3%
USG 23%
TO 12.6%
Andrew Wiggins
FG% by Distance
0-3' 66.5%
3'-10' 34.7%
10'-16' 38%
16'-21' 30.5%
3point 31%
FGA by Distance
0-3' 30.7%
3'-10' 19.3%
10'-16' 16.2%
16'-21' 22.5%
3point 11.1%
22.6% USG
11.7% TO
Just found these these statistics very interesting |
Clarkson>Kobe. 'Nuff said. Dont trade him for LBJ |
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angrypuppy Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: How Good is Jordan Clarkson vs. Andrew Wiggins (shooting stats)? |
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Mike@LG wrote: | Randomly checking basketball reference, and this is what I found:
Jordan Clarkson
FG% by Distance
0-3' 66.5%
3'-10' 32.4%
10'-16' 47.6%
16'-21' 38.6%
3point 31.5%
FGA by Distance
0-3' 28.5%
3'-10' 18.1%
10'-16' 10.6%
16'-21' 22.1%
3point 20.3%
USG 23%
TO 12.6%
Andrew Wiggins
FG% by Distance
0-3' 66.5%
3'-10' 34.7%
10'-16' 38%
16'-21' 30.5%
3point 31%
FGA by Distance
0-3' 30.7%
3'-10' 19.3%
10'-16' 16.2%
16'-21' 22.5%
3point 11.1%
22.6% USG
11.7% TO
Just found these these statistics very interesting |
Nice. Thanks Mike.
For anyone claiming that Clarkson is an empty stats guy, you could make the same counter-claim with Wiggins. |
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