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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | IMO Lin is a very good option for the next few years. Not sure why he continues to recieve so much negativity. I would have no issues with him being re-signed. Even at a market value that could possibly be $5-7M. How about 3 yr/$18M?
If the Lakers need a second tier PG, why not Lin?
Lakers could easily draft C or SF if they get the lottery pick. Also could spend the lion's share of free agent money on either of those positions. Lakers still need a solid rotation PG even if Clarkson develops. Most teams do have that rotation .
I can only hope the continued Rondo talk is this years version of the "need" to acquire broken players some people seem to have. Similar to Arenas or Beasley discussions from years past. |
The issue with Lin/Lakers:
1. does Lin even want to be back and play for Scott/Kobe?
2. Lakers will pursue big named free agents first. If successful, that leaves (assuming top 3 pick) around 4-5m in cap space. |
1) don't know if he wants to return. He had some friction with Scott but overall he had a solid year. His ability to push the ball, hit 3's and distribute the ball was a positive. He was not consistent but he had his moments. Seems like he fits that role of backup with starters ability fairly well.
2) If they land a marquee free agent the options change. No issues with that. I just think it is a longshot that any marquees are signing with the Lakers. I doubt the reasoning of any doing so. If Kupchak surprises me then the Lakers will have to fill the roster with inexpensive free agents or d-leaguers instead of solid role players. Just another path in the rebuild.
I just hope the Lakers do not repeat the same model as last year. Beg a free agent to come only to be left without anything in the 11th hour of free agency. Then having to scramble to fill out a roster again. I would rather build with consistency then longshots. Just my conservitive nature. |
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| Richmond wrote: | | Captain America wrote: | | bws94 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | nikeykid wrote: | | yes that one. there's one active thread about PG choices for next year. |
So we'll know where to find the Lin fans that have left the "sinking" Lakers ship!  |
I follow Lin but like the Lakers. I'll be around some. I really hope no Rondo and can't wait to watch Randle. As far as the Mavs go, is it a dysfunctional culture there created by Rondo and to some extent Monta or is Carlisle too much of a hard you know what? If they want Lin, he has his PnR center and floor spacer/cutter and the style of play will suit him OK. But, there's a lot of factors that will determine that and things won't happen for weeks. Right now, Lin is chillin out. |
Yea I actually really hope Lin returns to he Lakers because I think he'd be happier here (better fan base, California etc.) But I don't think we will be able to match what the Mavericks offer money wise and I think Lin would probably take more money and a starting gig even if he likes being a laker, cuz I don't think we're going above 8mil for a guy if he's off the bench. Sadly we may pay much more to Rondo who isn't even in the same stratosphere as Lin talent-wise just for the "name" |
Rondo is a superior talent when his head is on straight and he's in the right system. From what I've seen the Mavs like to push the ball and Rondo doesn't. (That's from VERY limited exposure to Mavs basketball)
I'm also not sure I understand what he would do for the Lakers. Clarkson is showing promise and if Kobe plays, he likes the ball... |
The Mavs were playing JJ Barea over Rondo... I hardly think he has more "talent lol, maybe when he was young but definitely not now |
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| just ran into Jeremy Lin at the Anaheim Packing District!!! |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:05 am Post subject: |
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| misterchipmunk wrote: | | just ran into Jeremy Lin at the Anaheim Packing District!!! |
Are you talking Suge Knight style?  
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| Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:53 am Post subject: |
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| misterchipmunk wrote: | | just ran into Jeremy Lin at the Anaheim Packing District!!! |
was it a block or a charge? |
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| 13th Man wrote: | | nikeykid wrote: | dallas needs a PG next season  |
Rondo was benched the entire 2nd half in a crucial playoff game, wow. His stint with the Mavs are all but over as he and Carlisle do not see eye to eye.
Odds of a Lin and Rondo switcheroo are increasing by the day. |
Rondo has severely diminished his value heading into free agency and reminded FO's around the league what a cancer he is. Wherever Lin ends up, his $ value has just increased because of Rondo's behavior. |
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| 13th Man wrote: | | Odds of a Lin and Rondo switcheroo are increasing by the day. |
Can the Lakers and Mavs work on a S&T? that might be in the works if it's possible. |
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| K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | 13th Man wrote: | | Odds of a Lin and Rondo switcheroo are increasing by the day. |
Can the Lakers and Mavs work on a S&T? that might be in the works if it's possible. |
Why would we even do that? No benefit to the Lakers whatsoever. Both teams have cap space.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | 13th Man wrote: | | Odds of a Lin and Rondo switcheroo are increasing by the day. |
Can the Lakers and Mavs work on a S&T? that might be in the works if it's possible. |
Why would we even do that? No benefit to the Lakers whatsoever. Both teams have cap space. |
Only works if the Bird rights and 7.5% raises to Lin matter. |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | 13th Man wrote: | | Odds of a Lin and Rondo switcheroo are increasing by the day. |
Can the Lakers and Mavs work on a S&T? that might be in the works if it's possible. |
Why would we even do that? No benefit to the Lakers whatsoever. Both teams have cap space. |
Only works if the Bird rights and 7.5% raises to Lin matter. |
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| 24 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | 13th Man wrote: | | Odds of a Lin and Rondo switcheroo are increasing by the day. |
Can the Lakers and Mavs work on a S&T? that might be in the works if it's possible. |
Why would we even do that? No benefit to the Lakers whatsoever. Both teams have cap space. |
Only works if the Bird rights and 7.5% raises to Lin matter. |
Right, but how does it benefit the Lakers?
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | 13th Man wrote: | | Odds of a Lin and Rondo switcheroo are increasing by the day. |
Can the Lakers and Mavs work on a S&T? that might be in the works if it's possible. |
Why would we even do that? No benefit to the Lakers whatsoever. Both teams have cap space. |
Only works if the Bird rights and 7.5% raises to Lin matter. |
Right, but how does it benefit the Lakers? |
Theoretically, it would be the mavs offering something for those rights. |
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| 24 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | 13th Man wrote: | | Odds of a Lin and Rondo switcheroo are increasing by the day. |
Can the Lakers and Mavs work on a S&T? that might be in the works if it's possible. |
Why would we even do that? No benefit to the Lakers whatsoever. Both teams have cap space. |
Only works if the Bird rights and 7.5% raises to Lin matter. |
Right, but how does it benefit the Lakers? |
Theoretically, it would be the mavs offering something for those rights. |
Eh. Don't see much there that I'd want.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | 13th Man wrote: | | Odds of a Lin and Rondo switcheroo are increasing by the day. |
Can the Lakers and Mavs work on a S&T? that might be in the works if it's possible. |
Why would we even do that? No benefit to the Lakers whatsoever. Both teams have cap space. |
Only works if the Bird rights and 7.5% raises to Lin matter. |
Right, but how does it benefit the Lakers? |
Theoretically, it would be the mavs offering something for those rights. |
Eh. Don't see much there that I'd want. |
There is no benefit to Rondo with a sign and trade, so it wouldn't be for him. But a 2nd rounder to get Lin might be of value. Then again, if Dallas is wanting his Bird rights, it would be an after the cap room is used trade and salary matching comes in. Not enough meat there really. |
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| K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | 13th Man wrote: | | Odds of a Lin and Rondo switcheroo are increasing by the day. |
Can the Lakers and Mavs work on a S&T? that might be in the works if it's possible. |
Are they both FA after season?
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| 24 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | 13th Man wrote: | | Odds of a Lin and Rondo switcheroo are increasing by the day. |
Can the Lakers and Mavs work on a S&T? that might be in the works if it's possible. |
Why would we even do that? No benefit to the Lakers whatsoever. Both teams have cap space. |
Only works if the Bird rights and 7.5% raises to Lin matter. |
Right, but how does it benefit the Lakers? |
Theoretically, it would be the mavs offering something for those rights. |
Eh. Don't see much there that I'd want. |
There is no benefit to Rondo with a sign and trade, so it wouldn't be for him. But a 2nd rounder to get Lin might be of value. Then again, if Dallas is wanting his Bird rights, it would be an after the cap room is used trade and salary matching comes in. Not enough meat there really. |
If lakers are able to sign a max player, which is unlikely imo, and still want rondo, sign and trade is the only option assuming mavs want Lin and salary match. Or Im wrong? |
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| PPP wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | 13th Man wrote: | | Odds of a Lin and Rondo switcheroo are increasing by the day. |
Can the Lakers and Mavs work on a S&T? that might be in the works if it's possible. |
Why would we even do that? No benefit to the Lakers whatsoever. Both teams have cap space. |
Only works if the Bird rights and 7.5% raises to Lin matter. |
Right, but how does it benefit the Lakers? |
Theoretically, it would be the mavs offering something for those rights. |
Eh. Don't see much there that I'd want. |
There is no benefit to Rondo with a sign and trade, so it wouldn't be for him. But a 2nd rounder to get Lin might be of value. Then again, if Dallas is wanting his Bird rights, it would be an after the cap room is used trade and salary matching comes in. Not enough meat there really. |
If lakers are able to sign a max player, which is unlikely imo, and still want rondo, sign and trade is the only option assuming mavs want Lin and salary match. Or Im wrong? |
Lin has a huge cap hold and the Lakers wouldn't be able to offer a max.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | PPP wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | 13th Man wrote: | | Odds of a Lin and Rondo switcheroo are increasing by the day. |
Can the Lakers and Mavs work on a S&T? that might be in the works if it's possible. |
Why would we even do that? No benefit to the Lakers whatsoever. Both teams have cap space. |
Only works if the Bird rights and 7.5% raises to Lin matter. |
Right, but how does it benefit the Lakers? |
Theoretically, it would be the mavs offering something for those rights. |
Eh. Don't see much there that I'd want. |
There is no benefit to Rondo with a sign and trade, so it wouldn't be for him. But a 2nd rounder to get Lin might be of value. Then again, if Dallas is wanting his Bird rights, it would be an after the cap room is used trade and salary matching comes in. Not enough meat there really. |
If lakers are able to sign a max player, which is unlikely imo, and still want rondo, sign and trade is the only option assuming mavs want Lin and salary match. Or Im wrong? |
Lin has a huge cap hold and the Lakers wouldn't be able to offer a max. |
Really? I thought Mitch said that Lakers have cap space for a max player. |
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So long as Lin is not renounced by the Lakers he has a large cap hold hat virtually eats any available cap space.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | So long as Lin is not renounced by the Lakers he has a large cap hold hat virtually eats any available cap space. |
What is the cap hold number to retain him?
He is currently making $8.3M and becomes a UFA this year. Would the cap hold be that $8.3M? Can they both agree to less?
Expecting Lin to get less this year but not by a lot. Could see him getting in the $6-7M range. Would the process be the Lakers have to renounce his cap hold, Lin becomes free agent then negotiate a new contract?
Thanks for any explanation given.
IMO Lin is a good PG option if Lakers do not draft or land a marquee PG free agent. Still amazed with the number of people still wanting Rondo in a Laker uniform. |
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| Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | So long as Lin is not renounced by the Lakers he has a large cap hold hat virtually eats any available cap space. |
What is the cap hold number to retain him?
He is currently making $8.3M and becomes a UFA this year. Would the cap hold be that $8.3M? Can they both agree to less?
Expecting Lin to get less this year but not by a lot. Could see him getting in the $6-7M range. Would the process be the Lakers have to renounce his cap hold, Lin becomes free agent then negotiate a new contract?
Thanks for any explanation given.
IMO Lin is a good PG option if Lakers do not draft or land a marquee PG free agent. Still amazed with the number of people still wanting Rondo in a Laker uniform. |
I believe hus cap hold would be 12mil until he signs a new contract, with tge lakers or other team. |
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| PPP wrote: | | Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | So long as Lin is not renounced by the Lakers he has a large cap hold hat virtually eats any available cap space. |
What is the cap hold number to retain him?
He is currently making $8.3M and becomes a UFA this year. Would the cap hold be that $8.3M? Can they both agree to less?
Expecting Lin to get less this year but not by a lot. Could see him getting in the $6-7M range. Would the process be the Lakers have to renounce his cap hold, Lin becomes free agent then negotiate a new contract?
Thanks for any explanation given.
IMO Lin is a good PG option if Lakers do not draft or land a marquee PG free agent. Still amazed with the number of people still wanting Rondo in a Laker uniform. |
I believe hus cap hold would be 12mil until he signs a new contract, with tge lakers or other team. |
About 12.5m which would prevent lakers from signing a max player.
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| Lin can go the Mavericks but please keep Rondo away from the Lakers. |
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If Ellis stays it might not be a good fit with Lin.
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