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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:45 pm Post subject: Man arrested after fight over who's better, Michael Jordan or LeBron James |
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This is almost as bad as the time a brawl broke out in a Kindergarten graduation over disparaging comments about the Lakers via Facebook.
*shakes head*
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/20/man-arrested-after-fight-over-who-is-better-michael-jordan-or-lebron-james/
Quote: | Man arrested after fight over who is better, Michael Jordan or LeBron James
Some people take the whole Michael Jordan vs. LeBron James debate way, way too seriously. (If you don’t believe me, check out the comments on this post after it’s been up for 24 hours.)
Daniel Mondelice is apparently one of those people. From the Associated Press:
Police say an argument over whether Michael Jordan or LeBron James is a better basketball player ended in a Pennsylvania man’s arrest on aggravated assault and other charges.
The Centre Daily Times reports that 22-year-old Daniel Mondelice was first arrested early Saturday after fighting with another man over whether Air Jordan or King James reigns supreme.
It wasn’t clear which player Mondelice backed.
Mondelice was released on bond. However, he went to a woman’s home in the State College area (where the arrest took place), while there became argumentative and the police had to be called again. He was taken into custody at that home and spent the rest of the weekend in jail, according to the report.
I could try to use logic and suggest that discussing the complete (and mythologized) legacy of Jordan with the incomplete — he’s still in his prime with chapters to be written — legacy of James is a fool’s errand. We don’t know what we will think of LeBron in a decade. But Mr. Mondelice — and many commenters on this post, no doubt — are not swayed by logic. Or the idea of patience. Their opinions are set and the world will conform to them. That always works out well. |
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doughboy90650 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Jordan or LeBron
Apple vs Android
People are gone crazy |
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danzag Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Jordan vs LeBron? Is this even a discussion? |
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Wasn't there a crazed fan that drove hours to pick a fight over something that was said on twitter? _________________ Smrek 2, Nevitt 1, Barkley 0 |
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Steve007 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:23 am Post subject: |
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danzag wrote: | Jordan vs LeBron? Is this even a discussion? |
I saw it discussed when Lebron only had 1 ring. Athletes tend to get better over time so it's not such a surprise that the best player today would be in the discussion of GOAT. |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown Star Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:44 am Post subject: Re: Man arrested after fight over who's better, Michael Jordan or LeBron James |
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Basketball Fan wrote: | This is almost as bad as the time a brawl broke out in a Kindergarten graduation over disparaging comments about the Lakers via Facebook.
*shakes head*
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/20/man-arrested-after-fight-over-who-is-better-michael-jordan-or-lebron-james/
Quote: | Man arrested after fight over who is better, Michael Jordan or LeBron James
Some people take the whole Michael Jordan vs. LeBron James debate way, way too seriously. (If you don’t believe me, check out the comments on this post after it’s been up for 24 hours.)
Daniel Mondelice is apparently one of those people. From the Associated Press:
Police say an argument over whether Michael Jordan or LeBron James is a better basketball player ended in a Pennsylvania man’s arrest on aggravated assault and other charges.
The Centre Daily Times reports that 22-year-old Daniel Mondelice was first arrested early Saturday after fighting with another man over whether Air Jordan or King James reigns supreme.
It wasn’t clear which player Mondelice backed.
Mondelice was released on bond. However, he went to a woman’s home in the State College area (where the arrest took place), while there became argumentative and the police had to be called again. He was taken into custody at that home and spent the rest of the weekend in jail, according to the report.
I could try to use logic and suggest that discussing the complete (and mythologized) legacy of Jordan with the incomplete — he’s still in his prime with chapters to be written — legacy of James is a fool’s errand. We don’t know what we will think of LeBron in a decade. But Mr. Mondelice — and many commenters on this post, no doubt — are not swayed by logic. Or the idea of patience. Their opinions are set and the world will conform to them. That always works out well. |
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vanexelent Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:15 am Post subject: |
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Steve007 wrote: | danzag wrote: | Jordan vs LeBron? Is this even a discussion? |
I saw it discussed when Lebron only had 1 ring. Athletes tend to get better over time so it's not such a surprise that the best player today would be in the discussion of GOAT. |
Compared to their respective contemporaries, though, Jordan's 6 rings speaks volumes over Lebron only able to achieve 2. He dominated his era more than Lebron has done his. |
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GoldenThroat Moderator
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:48 am Post subject: |
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vanexelent wrote: | Steve007 wrote: | danzag wrote: | Jordan vs LeBron? Is this even a discussion? |
I saw it discussed when Lebron only had 1 ring. Athletes tend to get better over time so it's not such a surprise that the best player today would be in the discussion of GOAT. |
Compared to their respective contemporaries, though, Jordan's 6 rings speaks volumes over Lebron only able to achieve 2. He dominated his era more than Lebron has done his. |
The rings argument is extremely weak. It's a team accomplishment. For a good portion of LeBron's career, guys like Mo Williams were the 2nd best player on the team. |
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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GoldenThroat wrote: | vanexelent wrote: | Steve007 wrote: | danzag wrote: | Jordan vs LeBron? Is this even a discussion? |
I saw it discussed when Lebron only had 1 ring. Athletes tend to get better over time so it's not such a surprise that the best player today would be in the discussion of GOAT. |
Compared to their respective contemporaries, though, Jordan's 6 rings speaks volumes over Lebron only able to achieve 2. He dominated his era more than Lebron has done his. |
The rings argument is extremely weak. It's a team accomplishment. For a good portion of LeBron's career, guys like Mo Williams were the 2nd best player on the team. |
GoldenThroat> vanexelent |
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Theseus Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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So, who won? |
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Gwyn Star Player
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Steve007 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:48 am Post subject: |
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vanexelent wrote: | Steve007 wrote: | danzag wrote: | Jordan vs LeBron? Is this even a discussion? |
I saw it discussed when Lebron only had 1 ring. Athletes tend to get better over time so it's not such a surprise that the best player today would be in the discussion of GOAT. |
Compared to their respective contemporaries, though, Jordan's 6 rings speaks volumes over Lebron only able to achieve 2. He dominated his era more than Lebron has done his. |
Well if you believe the hype about Cleveland, Lebron isn't done yet.
I think the rings show the dominance of the Bulls, and not just MJ. He needed Pippen, Rodman, Grant, Phil, and solid, smart unselfish role players who were clutch and really wanted to win. Guys like Paxson and Kerr hit shots to win the Finals in 93 and 97. It also helped when Karl Malone would choke in the biggest moments. |
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:32 am Post subject: |
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GoldenThroat wrote: | vanexelent wrote: | Steve007 wrote: | danzag wrote: | Jordan vs LeBron? Is this even a discussion? |
I saw it discussed when Lebron only had 1 ring. Athletes tend to get better over time so it's not such a surprise that the best player today would be in the discussion of GOAT. |
Compared to their respective contemporaries, though, Jordan's 6 rings speaks volumes over Lebron only able to achieve 2. He dominated his era more than Lebron has done his. |
The rings argument is extremely weak. It's a team accomplishment. For a good portion of LeBron's career, guys like Mo Williams were the 2nd best player on the team. |
For the last 5 seasons he's played with no fewer than 2 other All-Stars and likely will for the remainder of his prime. If he fails to dominate his peers with a stacked team, then he's not as good, imo. |
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Kobe fans requesting to intervene in the fight as a 3rd party. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:20 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Kobe fans requesting to intervene in the fight as a 3rd party. |
Amicus Kobe _________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays |
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Fighting is such an unproductive activity in most cases. It took me years and years to realize it, some people never do. |
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That Lebron supporter must have been 12 _________________ "I was laying myself on the line by saying, if this doesn't work in three to four years, if we're not back on the top then I will step down because that means I have failed,"
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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defense wrote: | Fighting in Temecula is such an unproductive activity in most cases. It took me years and years to realize it, some people never do. |
Fixed. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL
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EDDIE DONX! |
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Kobe fans requesting to intervene in the fight as a 3rd party. |
Amicus Kobe |
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