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I am not a fan of Ellington at all. I feel like he just wants to get his.
Young loves to shoot, but that's not the same as wanting to get his. Ellington is selfish, imo
If it was up to me I'd rather have Young
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| Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 11:56 am Post subject: |
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| Chronicle wrote: | I am not a fan of Ellington at all. I feel like he just wants to get his.
Young loves to shoot, but that's not the same as wanting to get his. Ellington is selfish, imo
If it was up to me I'd rather have Young |
Agreed. I'd be willing to give Young another shot. He got injured right before the season started and missed a month and a half, he couldn't really get into rhythm when he did get back, and then he went out with a season ending injury a few months afterwards. His antics and his whole "Swaggy P" persona can get old quickly, but it's not as if he's a locker-room cancer either. |
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| He is funny and a kick back personality and appears to be an awesome guy. With the instability last year New coach New system and a pile of injuries these guys had to play so many positions that Young skill at shooting did not shine. There are no obvious hints that Mitch or Byron is ready to kick him out of LA yet. Many here are expecting him to improve his defense and he showed sparks of that last season but don't expect him to be a defensive beast that's just not his thing. Byron will have more pieces this season that he might not have to force these guys to do things they were not supposed to do and maybe in the process we chalk it up to wins. |
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| Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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AST/TO:
Ellington - 2.10
Young - 0.93
Assist Ratio:
Ellington - 13.1
Young - 6.5
Usage %:
Ellington - 18.6
Young - 25.7
Who's more selfish? |
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| Someone mentioned that trading young/2nd pick to ORL for Ben Gordon is the best realistic way to clear cap space I hope the lakers make that deal |
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lakerjoshua
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Nick is a serviceable player on a 5.3mil per year deal.
He's not BS's favorite but really who cares. Why on earth would we dump a draft pick to trade him?
Its like he's the new luke walton....
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2934622
Ya'll need to quit hatin' and see it for what it is. |
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Nick is a decent 6th man off the bench like a JR Smith, Crawford, etc. someone who can score 10-15 points off the bench. He also is a solid Kobe insurance, I mean how many of you would bet big money Kobe plays over 2000 minutes this year at anything approaching Kobe's prime? Keeping Kobe down to 30 minutes is worth paying Nick Young $5.3 million.
Reasons we would deal Young: We land a prime SF in the draft via trade or sign one of the better UFA SF out there in the $10-14 million a year range.
Maybe Young gets dealt with Sacre for a vet. PG to tutor Clarkson/Brown - Darren Collision, Ramon Sessions, someone like that. Denver or Phoenix might be a place for him too.
My guess is that if the Lakers are contemplating deals this year, Nick Young is pretty far down that wish list. Now if someone approaches us, that might change things, otherwise Young is likely here at least one more year. |
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^ Agree
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| waterman40 wrote: | Nick is a decent 6th man off the bench like a JR Smith, Crawford, etc. someone who can score 10-15 points off the bench. He also is a solid Kobe insurance, I mean how many of you would bet big money Kobe plays over 2000 minutes this year at anything approaching Kobe's prime? Keeping Kobe down to 30 minutes is worth paying Nick Young $5.3 million.
Reasons we would deal Young: We land a prime SF in the draft via trade or sign one of the better UFA SF out there in the $10-14 million a year range.
Maybe Young gets dealt with Sacre for a vet. PG to tutor Clarkson/Brown - Darren Collision, Ramon Sessions, someone like that. Denver or Phoenix might be a place for him too.
My guess is that if the Lakers are contemplating deals this year, Nick Young is pretty far down that wish list. Now if someone approaches us, that might change things, otherwise Young is likely here at least one more year. |
Exactly. A 6th man and a compact spare version of Kobe. |
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| MIMLaker wrote: | | waterman40 wrote: | Nick is a decent 6th man off the bench like a JR Smith, Crawford, etc. someone who can score 10-15 points off the bench. He also is a solid Kobe insurance, I mean how many of you would bet big money Kobe plays over 2000 minutes this year at anything approaching Kobe's prime? Keeping Kobe down to 30 minutes is worth paying Nick Young $5.3 million.
Reasons we would deal Young: We land a prime SF in the draft via trade or sign one of the better UFA SF out there in the $10-14 million a year range.
Maybe Young gets dealt with Sacre for a vet. PG to tutor Clarkson/Brown - Darren Collision, Ramon Sessions, someone like that. Denver or Phoenix might be a place for him too.
My guess is that if the Lakers are contemplating deals this year, Nick Young is pretty far down that wish list. Now if someone approaches us, that might change things, otherwise Young is likely here at least one more year. |
Exactly. A 6th man and a compact spare version of Kobe. |
Yes. Throw him out there for 4 to 5 minutes per quarter (last 4-5 of 1st and 3rd quarters and first 4-5 of 2nd and 4th quarters) and keep Kobe at 28 to 32 minutes a game.
Unless you can find a better replacement for him, I think you roll with Nick Young. If he's on offensively it picks up the entire team. He just needs to focus on when his shot isn't falling how to still contribute to the game.
He'll be fine. Nick Young shouldn't be going anywhere. |
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Nick was paid to play a role. This year back to fitting that role.
Kobe is 1 year older. We need all the scoring we can get without expectations of Kobe... |
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| 44-25 wrote: | Nick was paid to play a role. This year back to fitting that role.
Kobe is 1 year older. We need all the scoring we can get without expectations of Kobe... |
There are more efficient ways to get extra scoring than going down the Swaggy hole. Even math-averse Byron knows this. |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | 44-25 wrote: | Nick was paid to play a role. This year back to fitting that role.
Kobe is 1 year older. We need all the scoring we can get without expectations of Kobe... |
There are more efficient ways to get extra scoring than going down the Swaggy hole. Even math-averse Byron knows this. |
I agree he provided nothing to the team last year. I would have preferred signing Meeks to Young. We have Young and I see him helping this team. If he is a distraction again - move him quick.
Not bringing back Hill gets rid of 1 non-dedicated player. Young may not be far behind.
There's a reason we get the 2 pick, plenty of the team needs to move on... |
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So we essentially paid 15 million for the 27th pick so we can trade it to get rid of a 5 million dollar contract. That makes a lot of basketball and business sense.  |
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Trade him to NY
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He's an unfunny clown and a terrible basketball player. Why keep him around?
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| mykeinla wrote: | | He's an unfunny clown and a terrible basketball player. Why keep him around? |
He may be terrible at basketball, but he's Backstage Lakers' MVP for two years running. I suppose that's why he's kept around.
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| KobeRe-Loaded wrote: | Call up Philly.
Offer Nick & #34 for any 2 of their 2nd round picks. |
I wouldn't offer our 34 for their two picks. Rashad Vaughn is a great pick up at 34. Asking for 2 second rounders is like going to the holiday inn and asking for the presidential suite. All you get is a load of cow dunk. |
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| mykeinla wrote: | | He's an unfunny clown and a terrible basketball player. Why keep him around? |
1) He is kinda funny, has a great personality and is well liked by his teammates.
2) He's not by any stretch of the imagination a "terrible" player.
He's about as cheap of a contract as you can get for a player his talent level and that's why you keep him. Unless you have an idea of another sg/sf that can get you 10-15 ppg in limited minutes for 5 mil per?
Having an opinion is fine as long as you know that facts do not support your opinion. Hate on hater..... |
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| lakerjoshua wrote: | | mykeinla wrote: | | He's an unfunny clown and a terrible basketball player. Why keep him around? |
1) He is kinda funny, has a great personality and is well liked by his teammates.
2) He's not by any stretch of the imagination a "terrible" player.
He's about as cheap of a contract as you can get for a player his talent level and that's why you keep him. Unless you have an idea of another sg/sf that can get you 10-15 ppg in limited minutes for 5 mil per?
Having an opinion is fine as long as you know that facts do not support your opinion. Hate on hater..... |
Wayne Ellington. He only made the league minimum last season.
And yeah there are "facts" supporting that. |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | lakerjoshua wrote: | | mykeinla wrote: | | He's an unfunny clown and a terrible basketball player. Why keep him around? |
1) He is kinda funny, has a great personality and is well liked by his teammates.
2) He's not by any stretch of the imagination a "terrible" player.
He's about as cheap of a contract as you can get for a player his talent level and that's why you keep him. Unless you have an idea of another sg/sf that can get you 10-15 ppg in limited minutes for 5 mil per?
Having an opinion is fine as long as you know that facts do not support your opinion. Hate on hater..... |
Wayne Ellington. He only made the league minimum last season.
And yeah there are "facts" supporting that. |
Are you saying you'd take Ellington over Nick Young? Ok well here are your facts since you supplied none.
Young Career Stats: http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/3243/nick-young
Ellington Career stats: http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/3981/wayne-ellington
One is obviously better than the other, can you guess who? (Hint: It's not Ellington).
The reason Ellington only made the minimum is because he is barely in the league just fyi. Young is a 6th man potential. Ellington is on the verge of being unemployed....Thank god you'r not the Lakers GM eh? |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | 44-25 wrote: | Nick was paid to play a role. This year back to fitting that role.
Kobe is 1 year older. We need all the scoring we can get without expectations of Kobe... |
There are more efficient ways to get extra scoring than going down the Swaggy hole. Even math-averse Byron knows this. |
Who? Do enlighten us. I mean seriously it's easy for you to make that statement I just see nothing from you other than empty comments. Show us an example of this 5 mil per mystery player who we can replace Nick with?
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| Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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Please don't bring back ellington
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| Chronicle wrote: | | Please don't bring back ellington |
Don't think even Frog was serious when he said that, just trolling. And agree 100%. Ellington is a scrub of epic proportion. |
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