Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:42 am Post subject: Scottie Pippen says he was 'LeBron James before LeBron James'
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Whenen people discuss LeBron James and compare him to past players, two NBA legends come to mind: Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson. However, in an interview with the Northeast Ohio Media Group, Scottie Pippen argued that LeBron is more comparable to him:
"I was LeBron James before LeBron James," Bulls great Scottie Pippen told Northeast Ohio Media Group. "It's not even close."
It sounds like a crazy statement, given how much LeBron has had superstar status that's similar to Jordan in the '90s. But it's pointed out that even James himself has said in the past how much Pippen influenced his game, yet he never comes up in comparison discussions:
"I'm no slouch, but when comparing LeBron's game, I'm usually left out," he said.
James has stated over the years how much he watched Pippen's game when growing up and how he incorporated facets into his own repertoire. Yet still, Pippen is a forgotten man when the conversations ramps up.
"They want to compare him to the greatest whether it be Michael Jordan or Magic Johnson, but he's more closer to myself," Pippen said. "It's natural for folks to say that, but if you look at how he plays the game and how I played the game, you'll see more similarities with us."
I've said for years that Lebron is basically Scottie Pippen with all of the physical attributes maxed out. He's like if Scottie created a MyPlayer of himself in the 90's. Many people (And media outlets) are taking what Pippen said out of context. He's not saying he's as good or better than Lebron (though superboy would disagree), he's comparing their playing styles. And in terms of of style of play and strengths and weaknesses, they're very similar. It's a much better comparison than MJ and Magic.
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:04 pm Post subject:
KBH wrote:
've said for years that Lebron is basically Scottie Pippen with all of the physical attributes maxed out. He's like if Scottie created a MyPlayer of himself in the 90's. Many people (And media outlets) are taking what Pippen said out of context. He's not saying he's as good or better than Lebron (though superboy would disagree), he's comparing their playing styles. And in terms of of style of play and strengths and weaknesses, they're very similar. It's a much better comparison than MJ and Magic.
So Pippen = LeBron = Odom = Randle in terms of playing style? _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
've said for years that Lebron is basically Scottie Pippen with all of the physical attributes maxed out. He's like if Scottie created a MyPlayer of himself in the 90's. Many people (And media outlets) are taking what Pippen said out of context. He's not saying he's as good or better than Lebron (though superboy would disagree), he's comparing their playing styles. And in terms of of style of play and strengths and weaknesses, they're very similar. It's a much better comparison than MJ and Magic.
So Pippen = LeBron = Odom = Randle in terms of playing style?
Not really. Odom is a more of a PF or tweener than Lebron and Pippen. Both were better ball handlers (LO could barely dribble with his offhand), had much quicker first steps and were better passers. I haven't seen enough of Randle, but he looks more similar to a Draymond Green than the other guys. But that could change now that he's lost some weight.
I've said for years that Lebron is basically Scottie Pippen with all of the physical attributes maxed out. He's like if Scottie created a MyPlayer of himself in the 90's. Many people (And media outlets) are taking what Pippen said out of context. He's not saying he's as good or better than Lebron (though superboy would disagree), he's comparing their playing styles. And in terms of of style of play and strengths and weaknesses, they're very similar. It's a much better comparison than MJ and Magic.
Yeah I've said this a few times as well
Other player a lot like Pippen is iguodala
Pippen is still the better defender though, by a large margin imo. Lebron rarely actually plays d _________________ Kobe
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:05 pm Post subject:
Scottie was a bit better than lebron.
Imagine if Kobe had lebron's body? He would be averaging 60 a night. _________________ "The best there is. The best there was. The best there ever will be.", said Bret Hart regarding the Los Angeles Lakers.
Pip was better defensively. _________________ "Now, if life is coffee, then the jobs, money & position in society are the cups. They are just tools to hold & contain life, but the quality of life doesn't change. Sometimes, by concentrating only on the cup, we fail to enjoy the coffee in it."
I've said for years that Lebron is basically Scottie Pippen with all of the physical attributes maxed out. He's like if Scottie created a MyPlayer of himself in the 90's. Many people (And media outlets) are taking what Pippen said out of context. He's not saying he's as good or better than Lebron (though superboy would disagree), he's comparing their playing styles. And in terms of of style of play and strengths and weaknesses, they're very similar. It's a much better comparison than MJ and Magic.
If this generation valued defense, there wouldn't be so much backlash.
"The irony to me is that LeBron is not Michael. LeBron is actually Scottie,"
"Phil Jackson used to call Scottie a 'sometimes shooter.' Sometimes they would go in, sometimes they wouldn't. That's how it is with LeBron. He's a great talent and a great player but you can see his flaws as a basketball player. He doesn't have an offensive game that he can rely on: no low-post game, no mid-range jump shot so when the game really gets tough he has a hard time finding easy baskets and getting himself going. That's what Michael did in his sleep so that's why the comparison is wrong."
Yeah, Pip was a great small forward, maybe one of the best ever, but he was not LeBron in most observer's eyes for a lot of reasons.
Fit gap analysis ?
The awards.
The championships which came with him being the best player on the team.
The number of times he carries a decent team into the Finals on his back.
He didn't come into the league as strong as LeBron.
He didn't score as consistently nor as much.
He was not the offensive giant - or creative passer - that LeBron has been.
Sure, stylistically, Lebron is more like Pippen than Jordan. But no, Scottie Pippen was not Lebron James before Lebron James. That's like saying World B. Free was Michael Jordan before Michael Jordan.
The thing people forget is, the Bulls were incredibly close to the title the year they played without Jordan. But Scottie Pippen mentally folded.
That's the complaint about Scottie he wasn't a true alpha, and frankly until just really this last finals (maybe the final one with the heat at well)... that was the complaint about Lebron.
The comparison isn't all that crazy. But if I had to describe it... Lebron is like the "shaq" version of Scottie Pippen... aka... beefed up physical freak. _________________ How can I get a copy of a Laker game played on Sunday, March 11, 2001 Sonics/Lakers? If you know PM me please
The thing people forget is, the Bulls were incredibly close to the title the year they played without Jordan. But Scottie Pippen mentally folded. .
They weren't that close.
They lost to the Knicks in the semi-conference finals, 4-3. Now, a lot of people say the Bulls were screwed by a call in game 5. Even if you give the Bulls that game, they lead the series 3-2. From then who knows? Give the Bulls the close call, and maybe things change and the Knicks come out with the energy in game 6 and stomp the Bulls, instead of the other way around.
And even if the Bulls win that series, they still have two more series to go. It's not like the Bulls were only play away from winning a ring.
"The irony to me is that LeBron is not Michael. LeBron is actually Scottie,"
"Phil Jackson used to call Scottie a 'sometimes shooter.' Sometimes they would go in, sometimes they wouldn't. That's how it is with LeBron. He's a great talent and a great player but you can see his flaws as a basketball player. He doesn't have an offensive game that he can rely on: no low-post game, no mid-range jump shot so when the game really gets tough he has a hard time finding easy baskets and getting himself going. That's what Michael did in his sleep so that's why the comparison is wrong."
Am still amazed at Bronhaters.
Do you really think Pippen would have made Iguodala or Thompson or Green cry defensively?
Pippen only had to deal with sissies like Anthony Mason n Charles Oakley. He only had to guard Ewing once in a while.
I agree ... Scottie was my fav player after Magic retired... loved his all around game. _________________ #11/08/16 America became GREAT again
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