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| If only someone had a gun at the time . . . oh wait, someone did. |
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Reflexx
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| If only randomly shooting someone was against the law. |
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Lakers_2000
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| If only the illegal immigrant convicted felon who shot her was in his own country..... |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown
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Beautiful girl. Just out for a walk with her dad. Such a tragedy.
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| If only there were more funds and compassion to help the mentally ill. I imagine 1.6 Trillion spent on wars and bombs and filling the bank accounts of sociopaths is better money spent. |
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C M B
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| Lakers_2000 wrote: | | If only the illegal immigrant convicted felon who shot her was in his own country..... |
yup
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This is just a terrible story, a completely random incident and the poor girl was killed right in front of her father.
I don't know what the answer is to these types of problems, but I would be fine with going completely medieval on this guy.
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They won't go medieval on this POS. He'll probably be deported for the 6th time, then let right back into our country because we don't have the balls to actually close our borders....
We wouldn't want anybody's feelings to get hurt. |
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Oliver Reed
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Stop voting for these pieces of (bleep) that run this state whom continue to increase taxes on every thing imaginable and get some people in the state that have values. Values for the black and white issues like: If you are not legally here, get the (bleep) out. Not, OH WAIT, lets give them licenses. Seriously, I cant even register this even when i hear it for the 100th time.
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That should be No. 1 in that top 100 things about America thread.
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| Trump found this guy and paid him off. |
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Reflexx
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| Lakers_2000 wrote: | | If only the illegal immigrant convicted felon who shot her was in his own country..... |
Oh come on. He was only a convicted criminal deports 5 times before this. It's the 6th time that is the kicker. |
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| Roger O. Thornhill wrote: | | Trump found this guy and paid him off. |
I thought the same |
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| rwongega wrote: | http://news.yahoo.com/senators-feds-deported-sfc-man-killing-155946812--politics.html
| Quote: | | The gun used in the seemingly random slaying of a woman on a San Francisco pier belonged to a federal agent, a law enforcement official briefed on the matter said Tuesday. |
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I smell conspiracy. |
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| He said he just found the gun wrapped in paper sitting on a bench and when he went to touch it the gun went off. If that's what happened then he is not guilty of murder and most likely not guilty of any crime. It would be just an accident. |
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| Lakers_2000 wrote: | | If only the illegal immigrant convicted felon who shot her was in his own country..... |
He was. Five times.  |
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | rwongega wrote: | http://news.yahoo.com/senators-feds-deported-sfc-man-killing-155946812--politics.html
| Quote: | | The gun used in the seemingly random slaying of a woman on a San Francisco pier belonged to a federal agent, a law enforcement official briefed on the matter said Tuesday. |
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I smell conspiracy. |
Something in the tea ain't clean. I want to know more about this fed. Was he/she suspended, investigated? Was this a service weapon or a back up/off duty weapon? What measures were taken to retrieve the gun? I want receipts. Cause this whole thing stinks.
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| doughboy90650 wrote: | | Lakers_2000 wrote: | | If only the illegal immigrant convicted felon who shot her was in his own country..... |
He was. Five times. :-? |
if our capitalists would have invested in Mexico instead of China more people would stay in Mexico |
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| LaZonaImagery wrote: | | He said he just found the gun wrapped in paper sitting on a bench and when he went to touch it the gun went off. If that's what happened then he is not guilty of murder and most likely not guilty of any crime. It would be just an accident. |
Here is more on that:
| Quote: | Over and over Tuesday, Lopez-Sanchez, an undocumented immigrant, told the judge he was "not guilty" in the shooting death of Kathryn Steinle. The 32-year-old was gunned down last week as she and her father strolled along San Francisco's waterfront. Sanchez contends he found the gun wrapped inside a T-shirt on the Pier, and it went off accidentally.
"This very well could be a completely accidental discharge of a firearm," defense attorney Matt Gonzalez said.
The U.S. Bureau of Land Management said Wednesday that a service weapon issued to one of its agents was used in the shooting. The agency is part of the Interior Department.
A law enforcement source told CBS News senior investigative producer Pat Milton that the weapon was reported stolen in a car burglary in San Francisco in June. A spokesman for the agency said the matter was under investigation, Milton reports.
Questions about the firearm were raised even before news of its use in the crime broke late Tuesday.
"Where did the gun come from? How many times was it fired? We don't have this information yet. But going forward, we will thoroughly investigate the case," San Francisco public defender Jeff Adachi said.
In a jailhouse TV interview Sunday, Lopez admitted killing Steinle, but his defense attorney says his client was dealing with a language barrier and didn't know what he was saying, leading to Tuesday's not guilty plea. |
Potential Accidental Shooting
For a guy with a 25 year history of only drug possession and illegal reentry crimes, it doesn't seem likely he'd suddenly commit a violent murder. 25 years of dealing with underworld drug dealers an no violence in or out of jail, then he becomes a random murderer? Unlikely. I'm calling it now -guilty of involuntary manslaughter, and he'll get a sentence as a habitual offender and they'll not request deportation so he can remain behind bars, which at his age will likely be for the remainder of his life.
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Full Criminal History:
| Quote: | Feb. 2, 1993: Lopez-Sanchez is convicted of felony heroin possession in Washington state criminal court and sentenced to 21 days in jail.
May 12, 1993: Convicted of felony narcotics manufacturing in Washington and sentenced to nine months in jail.
Nov. 2, 1993: Convicted of felony heroin possession in Pierce County, Wash. and sentenced to four months in jail.
June 9, 1994: Convicted of misdemeanor imitation controlled substance in Multnomah, Ore. and ordered to pay a fine.
June 10, 1994: Lopez-Sanchez is arrested by Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), the forerunner to ICE, and convicted of a controlled substance violation and an aggravated felony. A federal immigration judge orders him deported on June 20, and he is removed to Mexico.
July 14, 1994: Lopez-Sanchez illegally re-enters the U.S. after his first deportation and falls into the hands of Arizona state authorities. His probation is revoked and he is sentenced to 93 days in jail.
July 11, 1996: Lopez-Sanchez is arrested in Washington and convicted of felony heroin possession. He is sentenced to 12 months, plus one day in prison.
March 12, 1997: INS arrests Lopez-Sanchez on an Order to Show Cause and charges him as a deportable alien because of his illegal re-entry and his aggravated felony conviction. He is deported back to Mexico for the second time on April 4, 1997.
July 22, 1997: Lopez-Sanchez is arrested in Arizona for his first known act of violence on an assault and threatening/intimidation charge. Government sources are unsure of the outcome of this case.
Jan. 13, 1998: Lopez-Sanchez is arrested by U.S. Border Patrol agents. Two days later, an immigration judge orders him removed, and he is deported for the third time on Feb. 2 of that year.
Feb. 8, 1998: Lopez-Sanchez illegally re-enters the U.S. six days after his previous deportation but is apprehended by U.S. Border Patrol.
Sept. 3, 1998: He is convicted of felony re-entry in U.S. District Court and sentenced to 63 months in prison.
Feb. 20, 2003: Seemingly at the end of his prison sentence, the U.S. Bureau of Prisons hands Lopez-Sanchez over to INS. He is deported again to Mexico on March 6.
July 4, 2003: Lopez-Sanchez again illegally re-enters the U.S. and is apprehended by U.S. Border Patrol, this time in Texas.
Nov. 7, 2003: Lopez-Sanchez is convicted of two federal charges — re-entry after removal and violation of a supervised federal release. He is sentenced to 51 months and 21 months for the charges, respectively.
June 29, 2009: After a lengthy prison sentence, the U.S. Bureau of Prisons hands Lopez-Sanchez over to ICE. He is immediately deported to Mexico.
Sept. 20, 2009: Lopez-Sanchez again re-enters the U.S. illegally. This time he is arrested by U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents in Eagle Pass, Tex.
Oct. 14, 2009: A U.S. Attorney for the Western District of Texas files for a re-indictment of Lopez-Sanchez for illegal re-entry after removal. He is charged in Sept. 2010, for violating federal probation.
May 12, 2011: Lopez-Sanchez is sentenced to 46 months in prison and 36 months of supervised release for illegal re-entry and probation violations. Two months later, ICE places a detainer request with the Bureau of Prisons upon his release from prison. In Oct. 2013, ICE’s Southern California Security Communities Support Center places a similar detainer request with the Bureau of Prisons.
March 26, 2015: After serving his sentence in federal prison in Victorville, Cal., Lopez-Sanchez is released and handed over directly to the San Francisco sheriff’s department, which had a warrant out for felony sale of marijuana. The next day, ICE received an automatic electronic notification that Lopez-Sanchez had been placed into the custody of the San Francisco sheriff’s department. ICE then placed a detainer request with the sheriff to be notified prior to Lopez-Sanchez’s release.
April 15, 2015: The San Francisco sheriff’s department releases Lopez-Sanchez from its custody without notifying ICE. |
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