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I would at the very least suspect it if I didn't before yes. You choose to go into business with someone I would want to know everything about them so something like this doesn't happen.
Its like how I didn't buy Sandra Bullock had no idea her ex husband was a Nazi worshipper/racist. I mean really? You were with him all this time and even helped raise his kid but had no idea about this other side to him? I find it hard to believe personally.
You are judged by the company you keep is it always fair? Probably not.
Which is why smart and cautious people tend to be selective of who they associate with. |
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| Basketball Fan wrote: | I would at the very least suspect it if I didn't before yes. You choose to go into business with someone I would want to know everything about them so something like this doesn't happen.
Its like how I didn't buy Sandra Bullock had no idea her ex husband was a Nazi worshipper/racist. I mean really? You were with him all this time and even helped raise his kid but had no idea about this other side to him? I find it hard to believe personally.
You are judged by the company you keep is it always fair? Probably not.
Which is why smart and cautious people tend to be selective of who they associate with. |
Yes, because when people start working together, part of the conversation always saying things like, "I'm a pedophile by the way. Is that OK with you?" and other dark and sinister secrets.
Subway hired Jared. I suppose the people that were responsible for hiring him are pedophiles as well . . . given guilt by association and all. |
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/20/entertainment/gene-simmons-kiss-home-search-warrant/
A search warrant was served at the home of Kiss bassist Gene Simmons, but the rocker and his family are not considered suspects, the Los Angeles Police Department said.
The division that handles online crimes against children executed the warrant on Thursday, according to Lt. John Jenal of the Los Angeles Police Department.
"No members of the Simmons family are suspects in the case and were extremely cooperative," he said. |
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| Quote: | A dog trained to sniff out electronics helped find a piece of key evidence in the Jared Fogle child pornography investigation, according to prosecutors.
The Labrador retriever named Bear has been trained to find electronic media storage devices, such as SD cards and thumb drives. Bear is one of only three dogs in the U.S. trained to discover such items.
In July, federal investigators conducted a search of the former Subway spokesman’s Indiana home. On Wednesday, officials provided a list of the items examined from the Fogle residence, which included dozens of phones and memory storage devices, along with several tablets, laptops and hard drives.
Prosecutors said Bear discovered a hidden flash drive at the residence which proved to be key to the investigation.
The dog and his handler have assisted the Indiana Crimes Against Children Task Force in five investigations. Bear is headed next to Seattle to work for the city’s police department. |
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | Basketball Fan wrote: | I would at the very least suspect it if I didn't before yes. You choose to go into business with someone I would want to know everything about them so something like this doesn't happen.
Its like how I didn't buy Sandra Bullock had no idea her ex husband was a Nazi worshipper/racist. I mean really? You were with him all this time and even helped raise his kid but had no idea about this other side to him? I find it hard to believe personally.
You are judged by the company you keep is it always fair? Probably not.
Which is why smart and cautious people tend to be selective of who they associate with. |
Yes, because when people start working together, part of the conversation always saying things like, "I'm a pedophile by the way. Is that OK with you?" and other dark and sinister secrets.
Subway hired Jared. I suppose the people that were responsible for hiring him are pedophiles as well . . . given guilt by association and all. |
Well if I'm going to go into business with someone yes I would want it to be with someone I trust and know everything about (as much as possible)
I wouldn't be surprised if Subway was aware and didn't care as long as it didn't become public. When it became public well he was damaged goods(even though he was to begin with)
Why would that be so hard to believe? I mean look at Bill Cosby you mean to tell me that his wife was clueless?
Or NBC? Others in Hollywood who have now said yes it was an open secret as if saying this somehow makes them look better in comparison.
These people kept quiet and the pervert kept on destroying more innocent lives all because it made the right people $$$ that's all anyone cared about. |
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| Basketball Fan wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | Basketball Fan wrote: | I would at the very least suspect it if I didn't before yes. You choose to go into business with someone I would want to know everything about them so something like this doesn't happen.
Its like how I didn't buy Sandra Bullock had no idea her ex husband was a Nazi worshipper/racist. I mean really? You were with him all this time and even helped raise his kid but had no idea about this other side to him? I find it hard to believe personally.
You are judged by the company you keep is it always fair? Probably not.
Which is why smart and cautious people tend to be selective of who they associate with. |
Yes, because when people start working together, part of the conversation always saying things like, "I'm a pedophile by the way. Is that OK with you?" and other dark and sinister secrets.
Subway hired Jared. I suppose the people that were responsible for hiring him are pedophiles as well . . . given guilt by association and all. |
Well if I'm going to go into business with someone yes I would want it to be with someone I trust and know everything about (as much as possible) |
As I said, pedophilia isn't really something that people just casually confess to.
So if you were married, you'd be fine with your husband bailing on the marriage if one of your primary co-workers was arrested for child porn? Because after all, if you chose to work with that person, you must share their sinister behaviors.
| Quote: | | I wouldn't be surprised if Subway was aware and didn't care as long as it didn't become public. |
I would. This isn't a drug problem, or some extramarital affair issue. This is one of the most disgusting and universally despised crimes one can commit. Even the most hardened of criminals the prison system who will hang out with fellow murderers etc. are sickened by such vile people that prisons typically segregate pedophiles from the rest of the population.
There'd be no upside for Subway ignoring it if they knew it was going on, because the fallout they would face from helping to cover it up if they knew would completely wipeout any financial benefit they might gain from keeping it quiet. The backlash they would face if it became known they knew and ignored it would be catastrophic - particularly if their knowledge was tied to the business trips he was taking for the company. It's far more likely that if they had any indication this was going on they would be compelled to let authorities know simply from a point of self-preservation.
| Quote: | When it became public well he was damaged goods(even though he was to begin with)
Why would that be so hard to believe?
I mean look at Bill Cosby you mean to tell me that his wife was clueless? Or NBC? Others in Hollywood who have now said yes it was an open secret as if saying this somehow makes them look better in comparison.
These people kept quiet and the pervert kept on destroying more innocent lives all because it made the right people $$$ that's all anyone cared about. |
I'm not saying it is hard to believe that his wife may have known. What I am addressing is your idea that once the business partner was arrested, the logical assumption is that anyone associated with him must be a pedophile as well - "guilt by association" in your words.
My guess is the wife was possibly suspicious or aware that there was extramarital activity going on, but I think the idea that she knew he was a complete pedophile is less likely. It's one thing to ignore a cheating spouse because keeping the marriage together is more comfortable. It's quite another to stomach the actions of a vile man who is preying on children.
As for any correlation to the Cosby situation, as atrocious as his acts were, they are not on the level of engaging in child porn and sex trafficking of young girls. This isn't Hollywood in the 70's and 80's and we aren't talking about a huge star slipping women a drug so he could molest them. What Fogle is accused of is not something that a corporation is simply going to ignore with a wink and a nudge in this day and age. |
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| Jared's hubris eventually caught up with him....I mean openly talking about having sex with minors to his close friends? Dude was rich and famous, but not untouchable. |
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http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/25/news/companies/subway-jared-fogle-charity/
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Jared Fogle's decision to plead guilty to child porn and sex abuse charges has drawn attention to questionable practices at the foundation he started to combat childhood obesity.
The Jared Foundation appears to have spent less than a quarter of the money it promised on those worthwhile efforts, according to tax documents.
The charity raised $650,000 between 2008 and 2013, the most recent year for which it has filed tax returns. But it donated just $145,647 to fight obesity in that same time period.
In fact, the foundation paid out more to its director, Russ Taylor, who is listed as a co-conspirator in Fogle's indictment, than it spent promoting the health of children. He earned $40,000 a year for a total of $180,000 through 2013. He remained director for another year and a half, until he was arrested on child porn charges early this year.
It also spent $20,000 on a golf tournament and another $12,000 on meals and entertainment in 2008, but tax records don't disclose how the rest of the money was spent in subsequent years.
The foundation's spending habits are a relatively small transgression compared to Fogle's more serious problems.
Fogle battled obesity himself as a child until he lost 245 pounds eating Subway twice a day in college. That feat made him the center of Subway's marketing campaign starting in 2000.
In 2008 Fogle announced that the Jared Foundation, which he had started two years earlier, would give $1 million a year to 50 schools to promote healthy eating for kids. He pledged another $1 million to education programs for families.
But the Jared Foundation's largess missed that mark by a long shot.
Related: How Jared turned Subway into a quiet fast food giant
"There's a mismatch there between what's promised and what's produced," said Daniel Borochoff, president of CharityWatch. "People need to be wary of celebrity charities," he said. "Often times it is more about image enhancement than about actual charitable work."
And even though Fogle's Subway gig made him a millionaire several times over, he didn't personally donate much to the charity that bore his name, according to records.
A group of foundation insiders that included Fogle gave a total of $128,787 to the cause from 2008 to 2013, or about 20% of the funds it raised. The documents don't disclose exactly how much each individual contributed.
"You would hope he would contribute more than that himself," said Borochoff. "He's the one getting all the credit."
Fogle's criminal attorney did not return a phone call seeking comment about the foundation's activities.
Fogle has to pay his 14 victims $100,000 each and will go to prison for between five and 12-1/2 years. Subway has also fired him. |
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http://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2015/08/28/franchisee-subway-execs-knew-jared-fogles-interest-children/71311528/?hootPostID=70969fd429650a13de2cc4d16227f16e
| Quote: | Cindy Mills, who ran a Subway restaurant franchise in Pensacola, Fla., said she started reaching out to Subway executives about Jared Fogle’s interest in children after he spoke openly about it with her.
In total, Mills talked to three executives with Subway’s advertising unit, known as the Subway Franchisee Advertising Fund Trust, she told Business Insider in an interview that included her lawyer, Robert Beasley. SFAFT pools and manages advertising funds for the restaurant chain’s franchisees.
Mills said she met Fogle at a Subway event and had an affair with him, according to BI’s report. During that time, Fogle told her he’d had sex with prostitutes between the ages of 9 and 16 years old in Thailand and the US, she said. He also asked her to set up a meeting for him with Mills’ cousin, who was underage at the time, she told BI.
Mills became “uncomfortable with relationship” after Fogle allegedly pressured Mills to sell herself on Craigslist, BI said. |
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| If corporate kept the news a secret that is bad news.... |
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| Yes but not the least bit surprising either. |
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Did this woman only go to corporate and not the police or did she go to the police and corporate..
I'm confused |
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| Basketball Fan wrote: | http://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2015/08/28/franchisee-subway-execs-knew-jared-fogles-interest-children/71311528/?hootPostID=70969fd429650a13de2cc4d16227f16e
| Quote: | Cindy Mills, who ran a Subway restaurant franchise in Pensacola, Fla., said she started reaching out to Subway executives about Jared Fogle’s interest in children after he spoke openly about it with her.
In total, Mills talked to three executives with Subway’s advertising unit, known as the Subway Franchisee Advertising Fund Trust, she told Business Insider in an interview that included her lawyer, Robert Beasley. SFAFT pools and manages advertising funds for the restaurant chain’s franchisees.
Mills said she met Fogle at a Subway event and had an affair with him, according to BI’s report. During that time, Fogle told her he’d had sex with prostitutes between the ages of 9 and 16 years old in Thailand and the US, she said. He also asked her to set up a meeting for him with Mills’ cousin, who was underage at the time, she told BI.
Mills became “uncomfortable with relationship” after Fogle allegedly pressured Mills to sell herself on Craigslist, BI said. |
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http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2015/10/27/florida-woman-discuss-jared-fogle-dr-phil/74678032/?hootPostID=2e4178d9d9a19f54ed0162d9ada97b26
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Florida woman to discuss Jared Fogle on Dr. Phil
A Florida woman who made a complaint to Subway about its former pitchman Jared Fogle will appear on Dr. Phil in a two-part program airing Thursday and Friday.
Rochelle Herman-Walrond claims to have secretly taped Fogle discussing sexual encounters with children, a release from the talk show program said.
The program will air the contents of the recorded phone conversations on the show, which airs at 4 p.m. on WTHR-TV Channel 13, the release said.
A federal judge will sentence Fogle Nov. 19 after he agreed to plead guilty to child pornography charges and having sex with minors. The man became Subway's spokesman and a household name after he shed more than 200 pounds by eating Subway sandwiches while he was a student at Indiana University.
A Subway spokesperson last month confirmed that Herman-Walrond made a "serious" complaint in 2011 about Fogle.
The woman also told a Sarasota television station that she recorded phone conversations with Fogle and shared them with the FBI. Authorities have not confirmed this.
Herman-Walrond claims she met Fogle in 2006 when he was a guest on a Florida television show. |
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| when Jared goes to the pen I hope he gets a 12 inch in his ass on a daily basis |
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The most amazing thing to me about this story is how well off financially this guy was.
Needless to say, he lucked into or found a fantastic opportunity with Subway and of course was rightfully terminated forever due to his horrid crimes.
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| LakerLanny wrote: | The most amazing thing to me about this story is how well off financially this guy was.
Needless to say, he lucked into or found a fantastic opportunity with Subway and of course was rightfully terminated forever due to his horrid crimes. |
So he lucked into a great opportunity and lost it all due to stupidity...sounds like your typical lottery winner who is bad with money. |
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I don't buy this. |
You don't think Fogle needed the extra $100 bucks? Me either. That is ridiculous on its face, the guy was a multi-millionaire.
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| lakersken80 wrote: |
So he lucked into a great opportunity and lost it all due to stupidity...sounds like your typical lottery winner who is bad with money. |
That is a great analogy, I agree.
As a financial person, I don't get that yet see it all the time in my business. If I get money, my objective is to keep it and grow it...not everyone has that mindset obviously.
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| LakerLanny wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: |
So he lucked into a great opportunity and lost it all due to stupidity...sounds like your typical lottery winner who is bad with money. |
That is a great analogy, I agree.
[]As a financial person, I don't get that yet see it all the time in my business. If I get money, my objective is to keep it and grow it...not everyone has that mindset obviously. |
you say that now... but I think a guy like you would Jordan Belfort your money |
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you say that now... but I think a guy like you would Jordan Belfort your money |
You don't know how true that is!
That was kind of a strange movie, I wasn't sure if it was serious or not.
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How are we supposed to know, we're not supposed to move right? |
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| LakerLanny wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: |
So he lucked into a great opportunity and lost it all due to stupidity...sounds like your typical lottery winner who is bad with money. |
That is a great analogy, I agree.
As a financial person, I don't get that yet see it all the time in my business. If I get money, my objective is to keep it and grow it...not everyone has that mindset obviously. |
Many people worry about different ways to spend their money rather than worrying about ways to make their money. |
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| dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: |
So he lucked into a great opportunity and lost it all due to stupidity...sounds like your typical lottery winner who is bad with money. |
That is a great analogy, I agree.
As a financial person, I don't get that yet see it all the time in my business. If I get money, my objective is to keep it and grow it...not everyone has that mindset obviously. |
Many people worry about different ways to spend their money rather than worrying about ways to make their money. |
Is that a blurb from Rich Dad, Poor Dad? |
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