I'd like to see them "roll the dice" with him. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns".
This is what I hoped was happening. Mitch basically told him that they would give him the 2 year deal if he kept doing the right things all summer and made it to training camp without any incidents. Smart move to keep him motivated and not back yourself into a corner with him too early in the process. _________________ “This goes far beyond paychecks”
Eric Pincus @EricPincus
As I understand it, the Lakers hope to have Robert Upshaw in training camp, but he has some private personal steps he needs to achieve
Eric Pincus @EricPincus
As I hear it, the Lakers have given a goal along with tremendous support to Robert Upshaw, an open door, but he has to walk through it
Eric Pincus @EricPincus
Upshaw is trying to get help on this personal issues, and in doing so, has a shot to get to training camp with the Lakers
Eric Pincus @EricPincus
It's different than what the Lakers did with Ronny Turiaf and his heart surgery, but some similarities with Robert Upshaw and their support
Eric Pincus @EricPincus
There's a Twitter sense, from those who hit me up, that the Lakers are dropping some ball with Upshaw, but it's the opposite actually
Eric Pincus @EricPincus
Upshaw is trying to get help on this personal issues, and in doing so, has a shot to get to training camp with the Lakers
Eric Pincus @EricPincus
Robert Upshaw has battled through some personal issues that got him kicked off two different college teams
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:29 pm Post subject:
greenfrog wrote:
He's miles better than Black so I do understand the conundrum the Lakers are in. Under normal conditions I would say don't bother.
That's a good question. Is he better than Black? I'm not too sure. He does fit the rim defender mold Hibbert occupies as a starter.
So defensively, not much would change strategically if Upshaw backed up Hibbert.
But due to his mobility and overall effort level, I think Black is superior to Upshaw at the moment.
Upshaw potential > Sacre for sure though. So I'd put him as our 3rd string center on the roster. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:51 pm Post subject:
kikanga wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
He's miles better than Black so I do understand the conundrum the Lakers are in. Under normal conditions I would say don't bother.
That's a good question. Is he better than Black? I'm not too sure. He does fit the rim defender mold Hibbert occupies as a starter.
So defensively, not much would change strategically if Upshaw backed up Hibbert.
But due to his mobility and overall effort level, I think Black is superior to Upshaw at the moment.
Upshaw potential > Sacre for sure though. So I'd put him as our 3rd string center on the roster.
I don't know how much of the summer league you watched, but just from the eye test it wasn't even close IMO.
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 5:29 pm Post subject:
greenfrog wrote:
kikanga wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
He's miles better than Black so I do understand the conundrum the Lakers are in. Under normal conditions I would say don't bother.
That's a good question. Is he better than Black? I'm not too sure. He does fit the rim defender mold Hibbert occupies as a starter.
So defensively, not much would change strategically if Upshaw backed up Hibbert.
But due to his mobility and overall effort level, I think Black is superior to Upshaw at the moment.
Upshaw potential > Sacre for sure though. So I'd put him as our 3rd string center on the roster.
I don't know how much of the summer league you watched, but just from the eye test it wasn't even close IMO.
Yea Black was getting easily dominated by Jeremy Tyler until Upshaw came in and stoped the bleeding.
He's miles better than Black so I do understand the conundrum the Lakers are in. Under normal conditions I would say don't bother.
That's a good question. Is he better than Black? I'm not too sure. He does fit the rim defender mold Hibbert occupies as a starter.
So defensively, not much would change strategically if Upshaw backed up Hibbert.
But due to his mobility and overall effort level, I think Black is superior to Upshaw at the moment.
Upshaw potential > Sacre for sure though. So I'd put him as our 3rd string center on the roster.
I don't know how much of the summer league you watched, but just from the eye test it wasn't even close IMO.
Yea Black was getting easily dominated by Jeremy Tyler until Upshaw came in and stoped the bleeding.
Should be a fun training camp with Tyler, Upshaw, Black and Sacre all competing for probably 2 spots on the final roster. _________________ “This goes far beyond paychecks”
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:55 pm Post subject:
Purp&Gold wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
kikanga wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
He's miles better than Black so I do understand the conundrum the Lakers are in. Under normal conditions I would say don't bother.
That's a good question. Is he better than Black? I'm not too sure. He does fit the rim defender mold Hibbert occupies as a starter.
So defensively, not much would change strategically if Upshaw backed up Hibbert.
But due to his mobility and overall effort level, I think Black is superior to Upshaw at the moment.
Upshaw potential > Sacre for sure though. So I'd put him as our 3rd string center on the roster.
I don't know how much of the summer league you watched, but just from the eye test it wasn't even close IMO.
Yea Black was getting easily dominated by Jeremy Tyler until Upshaw came in and stoped the bleeding.
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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:23 am Post subject:
Per Eric Pincus, LA has given him a path to making the team, but he must meet certain obligations to get there. They aren't handing him a contract until he does so.
Per Eric Pincus, LA has given him a path to making the team, but he must meet certain obligations to get there. They aren't handing him a contract until he does so.
ok so it makes sense. Upshaw needs to just take care of himself and get in the best shape possible and he will get that camp invite to prove himself
Per Eric Pincus, LA has given him a path to making the team, but he must meet certain obligations to get there. They aren't handing him a contract until he does so.
ok so it makes sense. Upshaw needs to just take care of himself and get in the best shape possible and he will get that camp invite to prove himself
As if "just" changing one's attitude about drug-life-work balance were that easy ...
Per Eric Pincus, LA has given him a path to making the team, but he must meet certain obligations to get there. They aren't handing him a contract until he does so.
ok so it makes sense. Upshaw needs to just take care of himself and get in the best shape possible and he will get that camp invite to prove himself
As if "just" changing one's attitude about drug-life-work balance were that easy ...
he has never been an addict... sure he might of did some weed and coke and party ... time to grow up and be a professional. I been following this kid since HS...he can do it..
I wonder if it's the heart condition/physical conditioning or off-the-court issues. Maybe both, but with all the social media out there haven't heard/seen Upshaw getting into trouble. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
Per Eric Pincus, LA has given him a path to making the team, but he must meet certain obligations to get there. They aren't handing him a contract until he does so.
ok so it makes sense. Upshaw needs to just take care of himself and get in the best shape possible and he will get that camp invite to prove himself
As if "just" changing one's attitude about drug-life-work balance were that easy ...
he has never been an addict... sure he might of did some weed and coke and party ... time to grow up and be a professional. I been following this kid since HS...he can do it..
if he can't stop long enough to get drafted or make a team's roster on an unguaranteed contract, he's an addict.
Per Eric Pincus, LA has given him a path to making the team, but he must meet certain obligations to get there. They aren't handing him a contract until he does so.
ok so it makes sense. Upshaw needs to just take care of himself and get in the best shape possible and he will get that camp invite to prove himself
As if "just" changing one's attitude about drug-life-work balance were that easy ...
he has never been an addict... sure he might of did some weed and coke and party ... time to grow up and be a professional. I been following this kid since HS...he can do it..
if he can't stop long enough to get drafted or make a team's roster on an unguaranteed contract, he's an addict.
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