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venturalakersfan
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| Tony Anapolis wrote: | I think alot of Lakers fans put way too much stock in Tarick Black. The Lakers arent going to hit on every later 2nd round pick and undrafted player. Clarkson is the exception not the rule.
If we waived Blaclk today, I bet there is a slim chance someone picks him up, unless it would be for D-league purposes. Only another terrible team would snatch him up imo? |
So you don't think the Rockets, who started him when Howard was down, would pick him up again?
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:46 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Tony Anapolis wrote: | I think alot of Lakers fans put way too much stock in Tarick Black. The Lakers arent going to hit on every later 2nd round pick and undrafted player. Clarkson is the exception not the rule.
If we waived Blaclk today, I bet there is a slim chance someone picks him up, unless it would be for D-league purposes. Only another terrible team would snatch him up imo? |
So you don't think the Rockets, who started him when Howard was down, would pick him up again? |
simply put they had no other option. with T Jones out D Mo was starting at pf i believe. capella was rookie and in d league and dorsey was not even in the nba prior season
more like benefit of circumstances then actual talent based |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:41 am Post subject: |
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| I really like Tarik. He's the player that Jordan Hill used to be when we first got him. And he has waaaay more leadership qualities |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:56 am Post subject: |
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I thought he was a good pickup. He reminds me of Kendrick Perkins a bit, and that's not necessarily a bad thing.
I also liked what I saw from him in the SL, but it's still SL and he has to prove it in actual games. |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| Mindripper2000 wrote: | I thought he was a good pickup. He reminds me of Kendrick Perkins a bit, and that's not necessarily a bad thing.
I also liked what I saw from him in the SL, but it's still SL and he has to prove it in actual games. |
You mean like last year, in the actual games? |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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| 22 wrote: | | I really like Tarik. He's the player that Jordan Hill used to be when we first got him. And he has waaaay more leadership qualities |
Tarik is a valuable bench player & an asset to the team.  |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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| I like him, but I'm the type who likes Sacre too. I'm not sure there's that much difference. |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | I like him, but I'm the type who likes Sacre too. I'm not sure there's that much difference. |
Just the difference between 2nd and third string... |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| 24 wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | I like him, but I'm the type who likes Sacre too. I'm not sure there's that much difference. |
Just the difference between 2nd and third string... |
I'm sorry, is that supposed to mean something? |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Black isnt gonna be top 5 player on a championship team but hes the type of player you need to win championship. He leaves it all out there |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | I like him, but I'm the type who likes Sacre too. I'm not sure there's that much difference. |
Just the difference between 2nd and third string... |
I'm sorry, is that supposed to mean something? |
That's the difference between Black and Sacre. Sacre is a third stringer capable of spot backup work but you're in trouble if he's starting, or if he's your primary backup. Black has shown to be a capable backup who can spot start for you (check out his numbers down the stretch last year). |
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I don't understand how anyone can say Tarik is expendable when Sacre is still on the team.
I definitely wish Tarik could be more of a shot blocker, but he's already put up way better stats than Sacre ever did.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| 24 wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | I like him, but I'm the type who likes Sacre too. I'm not sure there's that much difference. |
Just the difference between 2nd and third string... |
I'm sorry, is that supposed to mean something? |
That's the difference between Black and Sacre. Sacre is a third stringer capable of spot backup work but you're in trouble if he's starting, or if he's your primary backup. Black has shown to be a capable backup who can spot start for you (check out his numbers down the stretch last year). |
I guess I just don't think Sacre is that bad. Admittedly, I just couldn't stomach watching very much of this team down the stretch last season, so perhaps I'm wrong.
FWIW, I could name far worse backup centers on good to great teams than Sacre... mygod, John Salley.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | I like him, but I'm the type who likes Sacre too. I'm not sure there's that much difference. |
Just the difference between 2nd and third string... |
I'm sorry, is that supposed to mean something? |
That's the difference between Black and Sacre. Sacre is a third stringer capable of spot backup work but you're in trouble if he's starting, or if he's your primary backup. Black has shown to be a capable backup who can spot start for you (check out his numbers down the stretch last year). |
I guess I just don't think Sacre is that bad. Admittedly, I just couldn't stomach watching very much of this team down the stretch last season, so perhaps I'm wrong. |
I'm not knocking either guy. Just stating that Black is a considerably better player. |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | I like him, but I'm the type who likes Sacre too. I'm not sure there's that much difference. |
I think there is a big difference, he is a very productive player unlike Sacre per minute played.
Always bet on black.
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| 24 wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | I like him, but I'm the type who likes Sacre too. I'm not sure there's that much difference. |
Just the difference between 2nd and third string... |
I'm sorry, is that supposed to mean something? |
That's the difference between Black and Sacre. Sacre is a third stringer capable of spot backup work but you're in trouble if he's starting, or if he's your primary backup. Black has shown to be a capable backup who can spot start for you (check out his numbers down the stretch last year). |
I guess I just don't think Sacre is that bad. Admittedly, I just couldn't stomach watching very much of this team down the stretch last season, so perhaps I'm wrong. |
I'm not knocking either guy. Just stating that Black is a considerably better player. |
Black and Sacre are different players with different roles. Both have value until they lose the job.
Black is more suited to play small ball center or PF IMO. Sacre is a legitimate center with size to rebound and set screens. Works hard and plays smart.
Curious if Hibbert were to miss 10 games. Would you start Sacre or Black? Personally I think Sacre starts and Black maintains his role with the uptempo 2nd unit. |
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I'd rather keep Black because of his ability to play small ball center. With hibbert you have a massive but immobile big. Sacre isn't the most nimble but Black is much more quicker.
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| Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | I like him, but I'm the type who likes Sacre too. I'm not sure there's that much difference. |
Just the difference between 2nd and third string... |
I'm sorry, is that supposed to mean something? |
That's the difference between Black and Sacre. Sacre is a third stringer capable of spot backup work but you're in trouble if he's starting, or if he's your primary backup. Black has shown to be a capable backup who can spot start for you (check out his numbers down the stretch last year). |
I guess I just don't think Sacre is that bad. Admittedly, I just couldn't stomach watching very much of this team down the stretch last season, so perhaps I'm wrong. |
I'm not knocking either guy. Just stating that Black is a considerably better player. |
Black and Sacre are different players with different roles. Both have value until they lose the job.
Black is more suited to play small ball center or PF IMO. Sacre is a legitimate center with size to rebound and set screens. Works hard and plays smart.
Curious if Hibbert were to miss 10 games. Would you start Sacre or Black? Personally I think Sacre starts and Black maintains his role with the uptempo 2nd unit. |
Makes sense but it may depend on the opponent.
Sacre is a decent 3rd string true center while Black is more versatile, can play C/PF and is more athletic. |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Black was demonstrably better as a starter. |
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Black is a much better player than Sacre and it's not even close. If you don't know that it shows you don't follow this team closely.
Not trying to insult Sacre but that's the truth. |
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| 22 wrote: | Black is a much better player than Sacre and it's not even close. If you don't know that it shows you don't follow this team closely.
Not trying to insult Sacre but that's the truth. |
Pretty much. |
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| Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | I like him, but I'm the type who likes Sacre too. I'm not sure there's that much difference. |
Just the difference between 2nd and third string... |
I'm sorry, is that supposed to mean something? |
That's the difference between Black and Sacre. Sacre is a third stringer capable of spot backup work but you're in trouble if he's starting, or if he's your primary backup. Black has shown to be a capable backup who can spot start for you (check out his numbers down the stretch last year). |
I guess I just don't think Sacre is that bad. Admittedly, I just couldn't stomach watching very much of this team down the stretch last season, so perhaps I'm wrong. |
I'm not knocking either guy. Just stating that Black is a considerably better player. |
Black and Sacre are different players with different roles. Both have value until they lose the job.
Black is more suited to play small ball center or PF IMO. Sacre is a legitimate center with size to rebound and set screens. Works hard and plays smart.
Curious if Hibbert were to miss 10 games. Would you start Sacre or Black? Personally I think Sacre starts and Black maintains his role with the uptempo 2nd unit. |
To play small ball center don't you have to be able to shoot from the outside? |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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^I wouldn't call it small ball, but he can get up and down the floor to set screens and then roll hard to the basket, which Hibbert may be too slow to do consistently. You have a couple top offenses that feature such a player (who can't shoot from outside) in the middle.
Now if we were really going small ball, I could see Randle as the go to center, like we saw in summer league, as traditional 5's have a really tough time guarding him. |
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| 22 wrote: | Black is a much better player than Sacre and it's not even close. If you don't know that it shows you don't follow this team closely.
Not trying to insult Sacre but that's the truth. |
Curious why you felt the snotty little snide comment was necessary? Do you feel more confident now? Superior somehow? Perhaps you shouldn't try so hard and just express your opinion.
As I stated, both players have their roles and strengths and weaknesses. I also consider Black the better player in his role. But IMO Sacre has his also. Against most teams I would be starting Sacre over Black at Center if Hibbert goes down this season. Just my opinion on how their roles fit the team. |
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| Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:13 am Post subject: |
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| Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | | 22 wrote: | Black is a much better player than Sacre and it's not even close. If you don't know that it shows you don't follow this team closely.
Not trying to insult Sacre but that's the truth. |
Curious why you felt the snotty little snide comment was necessary? Do you feel more confident now? Superior somehow? Perhaps you shouldn't try so hard and just express your opinion.
As I stated, both players have their roles and strengths and weaknesses. I also consider Black the better player in his role. But IMO Sacre has his also. Against most teams I would be starting Sacre over Black at Center if Hibbert goes down this season. Just my opinion on how their roles fit the team. |
Except both guys have played multiple games as a starter, and black does it better by almost any measure. |
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