Lavine has not shown the versatility that Clarkson has. He shoots 3s and dunks.
Sounds like an analytic guy's dream prospect
Except he doesn't hit the 3 with any regularity and can only dunk on the break or fed with a lane to the rim.
Lavine had the worst WAR in the league last year by a MASSIVE margin. His WAR was 474th in NBA, at -5.34. The second worst WAR (Derrick Williams, nice job, Phil) was -2.90. For whatever you think that stat is worth.
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:44 pm Post subject:
GoldenThroat wrote:
jonnybravo wrote:
kikanga wrote:
manlisten wrote:
Lavine has not shown the versatility that Clarkson has. He shoots 3s and dunks.
Sounds like an analytic guy's dream prospect
Except he doesn't hit the 3 with any regularity and can only dunk on the break or fed with a lane to the rim.
Lavine had the worst WAR in the league last year by a MASSIVE margin. His WAR was 474th in NBA, at -5.34. The second worst WAR (Derrick Williams, nice job, Phil) was -2.90. For whatever you think that stat is worth.
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 4:09 pm Post subject:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Megaton wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
Anybody else worried about a sophomore slump next year from clarkson? He finished the year great but nobody had seen him play significant minutes until January. I'm worried teams will make adjustments to make things harder for him this year. Hope I'm wrong but I can see it happening. Thoughts?
That's 101 ppg right there not including the bench, so I'm overshooting already. I think it'll be tough for Jordan to average 20 ppg unless Kobe is basically out again.
Kobe's playing time is the unknown factor. Also, the question of who is going to be the #1 option when he doesn't play in b2b games will affect scoring averages and shot distribution. I'm not ready to guess how many points Clarkson will score because there are so many different aspects to this year's team, but I do believed he will be improved in every area and he's going to be fun to watch.
Re: Lavine/Clarkson
Lavine had a lot of flashes the last month of the season. Yes his analytics for the season as a whole are hilariously bad, and he didn't even pass the eye test most of the season - but the last month I think he was good. Also I think when judging rookies, growth and improvement have to be heavily taken into account, rather than just a whole season's #s and analytics.
In his last 16 games he scored 17+ pts 12 times , and shot respectably in 8 of those games, poor in the other 8.
I was a Lavine hater coming out of college , but I liked that he handled PG duties and improved skills like his ball handling. His off the dribble J has a lot of potential, quick release, range - not sure if he's going to be Jamal Crawford chucking that J or if he's not going to chuck as much and try to be much more dynamic - nonetheless I love me a youngster with nice pulllup J potential
Towards the end of the year he also showed flashes of attacking the rim dynamically in the halfcourt. Driving and finishing with explosive layups looking like a spitting image of a flying Russell Westbrook about to dunk on you, but then contorts his body and glides past for the layup. It was cool to see that imitated.
In terms of Lavine v Clarkson.... Clarkson was the more impressive player last year in every way. Im high on both of them though.
If Lavine chooses to be a chucking wanna be splash bro, he's guna be a better version of Gerald Green, but IMO he very well could continue to develop more dynamic attacking skills and be an all star one day. If Clarkson continues to improve on the skills he showed last year, then he's on a more direct path to high level success than Lavine though. could very well be Monta Ellis reincarnated -- one of the best guys in the league at getting to the rim and mid range killer
Look at his drives in the PnR at 1:20+ , I don't think Lavine will everrr be this good as a PnR driver. This is special from Clarkson, it's low center of gravity, shiftiness and squeezeabilty. It's rare that a player can get this low and be able to squeeze through spaces, and then be able to elevate/finish like he does! such a rare combo. Add his midrange J and his probe/pass ability that Nash honed and you could have one of the most dynamic inside the arc PnR players in the league. Yes, I think his slashing ability in it is that special. Some Cp3/Nash hesitations like he's going to pull up for a midrange J is the dribble move that could make him lethal as (bleep)
I don't think the Lavine and Clarkson comparison is fair. Lavine is pretty immature at 20 years old, and Clarkson is 23. Yeah age is not a factor but Clarkson is more experience. Maybe we should see for a few more years.
I'd love a Clarkson vs Lavine rivalry for the next 10 years. Both are compared to Westbrook and both have impressive games.
If you think about it, MCW has way fancier and tighter handles, but he is no where as efficient as Clarkson.
I wonder why? Bball IQ? Or simply the lack of range?
The ability to carry his speed while dribbling the ball.
Mcw has great speed and great handles but not the exact same in unison.
The same problem exum had last year.
But Clarkson also has a very solid change of direction as well as the ability to finish with both hands so he will explode to either direction with his dribble.
If you think about it, MCW has way fancier and tighter handles, but he is no where as efficient as Clarkson.
I wonder why? Bball IQ? Or simply the lack of range?
The ability to carry his speed while dribbling the ball.
Mcw has great speed and great handles but not the exact same in unison.
The same problem exum had last year.
But Clarkson also has a very solid change of direction as well as the ability to finish with both hands so he will explode to either direction with his dribble.
Wow, hope that Russell won't face problems like this.
If you think about it, MCW has way fancier and tighter handles, but he is no where as efficient as Clarkson.
I wonder why? Bball IQ? Or simply the lack of range?
The ability to carry his speed while dribbling the ball.
Mcw has great speed and great handles but not the exact same in unison.
The same problem exum had last year.
But Clarkson also has a very solid change of direction as well as the ability to finish with both hands so he will explode to either direction with his dribble.
Wow, hope that Russell won't face problems like this.
If you think about it, MCW has way fancier and tighter handles, but he is no where as efficient as Clarkson.
I wonder why? Bball IQ? Or simply the lack of range?
The ability to carry his speed while dribbling the ball.
Mcw has great speed and great handles but not the exact same in unison.
The same problem exum had last year.
But Clarkson also has a very solid change of direction as well as the ability to finish with both hands so he will explode to either direction with his dribble.
Also Clarkson is a much better scorer from midrange and the 3 than MCW.
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