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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:36 pm    Post subject: MACCABI -at- LAKERS - 10-11-15 - Thoughts and :-)) Ratings

Cracking the Win Column… The Lakers got a small taste of winning for the first time this preseason. It helped that visiting Maccabi Haifa played role of the Washington Generals for them as the Lakers crushed them 126-83.

The Lakers dominated Maccabi in the first half, smothering them on D and executing their sets with precision early on. Maccabi then got into the passing lanes, overplaying the initial passes of the offense and catching the Lakers off guard. The Lakers still had a 23-point lead at halftime despite their 13 turnovers.

Rookie D’Angelo Russell was eased back into the action coming off the bench as backup PG. (Still out was Bass and Huertas.) Russell led the team with 11 assists in just 18 minutes and the Lakers made 14 threes, knocking them down and generally playing with more lively legs.

“I thought offensively we moved the ball pretty well…the ball didn’t stick, guys were looking for each other,” Scott said, mentioning the 30 assists but also the 22 turnovers.

Enjoyable game to watch with all the shots dropping. It will be nice if they can put that together against an NBA team.


Kobe -- -- Extremely efficient game from Kobe. Not just in his scoring, but in his energy use. Chalk a lot of that up to the young guys, Clarkson, Randle and Russell. “They’re all great creators and attack players, but they can also shoot the ball,” Kobe said. “I couldn’t be more pleased with the way they are developing.” They are making the offensive engine go and Kobe is able to let the game come to him more than have to grind and create for the team. He and Russell seemed to look for each other a little. Nice to see that chemistry (and trust from Kobe). Defensively, he’s cutting some corners. Hibbert had to save him at least once or twice this game. So it’s great that Kobe has that behind him. Kobe’s going to have to pick up the effort a little more on that end of the floor. The Stats: He scored 21 points on 6-10 shooting (4-6 from three, 5-5 from the line) to go with 1 board, 1 assist, 1 steal, 2 turnovers and 1 foul in 18 minutes. He was a +27. The Action: He missed a baseline jumper on iso out of the post. He spun baseline to lose his man and drew FTs at the rim, he made both. He missed a turnaround from the wing. He drained a wing three off an inbounds play. He was fouled on a three off the split play, he made all three FTs. He spotted Russell across court, who quickly swung it to Kelly before coming down, who then hit Lou, who found Kobe again wide open for the three (great ball movement). He hit Russell on a give-and-go bounce pass under the hoop for a layup. He swiped a ball, pushed up the break and hit the turnaround. He missed a wing three. He had 13 points to lead the team at the half. Second Half: He was stripped on the sideline. He swished a three off the triangle with Randle running the split play with him (rare we see that, but they did it twice down the court). He scored a layup off the backdoor find from Randle. He sank an open sideline three off the Randle drive and dish in early offense. He forced up a three over the trapping D and missed.

Clarkson -- -- Not an efficient game but still effective. His ability to get into the paint usually makes good things happen. Whether he finishes or not, it’s giving our bigs opportunities on the offensive glass for putbacks. The offense seemed to have enough flow with Clarkson running it (and the types of sets we run) that Kobe didn’t have to overextend himself. It helps that you’ve got Randle creating for guys and pushing the break. I think Scott will eventually settle on staggering Clarkson/Russell’s rotations so that one is always on the floor. We’ll see how it plays out. The Stats: He scored 10 points on 3-10 shooting (0-2 from three, 4-5 from the line) to go with 4 boards, 4 assists, 1 steal, 2 turnovers and 2 fouls in 23 minutes. He was a +19. The Action: He probed to his left and hit the sneaky pull-up jumper from about 16 feet. He scored a layup off the no-look drop pass from Hibbert as Clarkson cut baseline. He attacked the paint with speed, missed the layup, but Hibbert cleaned it up easily. He probed, kept his dribble alive and drew FTs at the rim, he made one. He couldn’t finish a layup, pushing out and trying to score at high speed. He attacked the pressure D, tripped up his man (using his off hand a little) and scored an And-1 off the glass in the lane, he made the FT. Too low and fast on a bounce pass to Randle on the break, turnover. He drop-stepped his man and was rejected badly by the help D. He attacked and kicked to Young for the three. Wow, looked like a good block on Buckner on help D under the hoop, but he was called for the foul. He got caught in the air with no one to pass to and threw it away. He missed a two-for-one three attempt. He had 8 points in the half. Second Half: He pounded the dribble too long and eventually missed a force shot in the lane. He missed a three in transition. He missed a baseline jumper on iso. He turned the corner into the lane and drew FTs, he made both. He attacked the paint, drew the D and dished to Black for the And-1.

Randle -- Another strong game from Julius. Stringing them together with consistency is the sign of an impact player. It’s great seeing the guards just bust down court when Randle has the ball off a rebound and letting him bring it up. Again, play of the game was Randle pushing the ball up court at high speed for a Laker score. (Well, that or passing sequence with multiple Lakers touching it.) “He’s hungry,” Hibbert said. He said he wants to keep making simple, easy plays and do a better job rebounding. “I expect him to play the way he’s playing right now,” Scott said. “Even at a higher level.” The Stats: He scored 14 points on 7-12 shooting (0-1 from three) to go with 9 boards, 2 assists, 1 steawl, 5 turnovers and 1 foul in 24 minutes. He was a +18. The Action: He swung through, attacked left and scored a layup. He attacked the paint and missed, then fumbled a return pass from Kobe out of bounds. He stripped his man, pushed it out in a crowd and scored a layup. He slammed when Hibbert bound him with a no-looker under the hoop. His post entry was picked off (poor angle). He lost his man with a bump in the paint but missed the 10-footer. He attacked and was blocked. He slipped and lost the ball on the perimeter. He faced up and powered in a layup over his man on the baseline. He attacked baseline and missed the reverse, but Hibbert cleaned up the dribble penetration. He missed a running three at the halftime buzzer. He had 8 points on 4-8 shooting and 5 boards. Second Half: He powered around his man in the post for a layup. He attacked the post, missed, got the loose ball back and scored the layup. He bounced to Kobe cutting backdoor for the layup (so nice). He scored a layup off the high-low lob pass from Hibbert. He hustled for the board, pushed it up, probed with speed and kicked out to Kobe for the wide open three.

Hibbert -- -- He had a huge presence in the paint tonight, swatting shots, altering shots, taking charges, grabbing boards on both ends of the floor. He continues to bring it. “We’re getting better. We’re not where we want to be yet,” Hibbert said of the D. He was impressive again on the boards with 16 (7 offensive), but he also had 5 assists. Hibbert mentioned playing the Princeton offense in college and being comfortable out there with those sets. He certainly looked it with some nice drop passes and high-low feeds. The Stats: He scored 8 points on 4-7 shooting to go with 16 boards (7 offensive), 5 assists, 3 blocks, 1 turnover and no fouls in 23 minutes. He was a +18. The Action: He drew a foul on an offensive board to regain possession. He no-looked to an open Randle under the hoop for a score. He no-looked a drop pass to Clarkson for the layup out of a timeout. He posted up in the triangle, spun baseline to lose his man, then blew the layup. He grabbed a miss, kept it high and banked in the short one. He cleaned up the missed Clarkson layup with an easy putback. He rejected a drive and recovered it. He drew a charge denying the dribble penetration. He drew a hook foul on his man with some more smothering man D. He cleaned up missed drive by Randle. Second Half: He missed a wing jumper on the two-man game. He came weak to strong, took the pass in the middle of the lane and hit the jumphook. He kept a Randle miss alive and Randle scored on it. He swatted the drive to help Kobe. He found Randle on the high-low lob pass for a score. Great help D rejection at the rim to help on the perimeter breakdown.

A. Brown -- -- Quiet game, but that’s okay when he’s with the starters. “I was really happy with Anthony,” Scott said, mentioning he was solid defensively and didn’t try to do too much. You want three and D from him. Score points for Brown in this one with the head coach for just playing steady and helping the D look a little better. When guys can get off some of those junk lineups and deep bench units, it helps them settle into their game. “I was impressed with him,” Kobe said. “He was under control, very poised.” The Stats: He scored 2 points on 1-2 shooting (0-1 from three) to go with 1 turnover in 22 minutes. He was a +19. The Action: Nice challenge on his man to force a shotclock violation. He swished a sideline jumper in front of the Laker bench. He airballed a wing three, yikes. Nice D, nearly stripping his man, the D was scrambled off the loose ball, but he recovered and challenged the jumpshot well to get a miss. Second Half: Nice transition D to hustle back and deny a score. He missed a three from the wing. He attacked off the dribble and was stripped from behind.

Russell -- -- He filled up the assist column tonight in limited minutes. “Nobody was forcing things to that it made it easy for everyone,” Russell said. The Lakers have rested him as a precaution, but Russell certainly didn’t show any signs of injury. He said he felt good and paced himself some. Russell sliced up the Maccabi D with pinpoint passes to teammates. His passing also seemed to be contagious as the ball movement was superb at times he was on the floor. He swished a pull-up three in early offense, something he did a lot of in college. I’m sure he’ll show that more as he gets more games under his belt. You could tell he looked very comfortable and confident out there as he started to thread the needle a little more. He also does some little things well that won’t show up in the stats. He threw about a 40-foot pass to Williams into the front court just to advance the ball and keep the pressure on. Williams attacked on it and drew FTs. That won’t go down in the stats as mentioned, but it’s something he also did very well in college to some of his more athletic players and it would create points out of really nothing. “I think he has the ability like Magic, like Nash,” Worthy said. “He takes a snapshot of the floor like 15 seconds before things happen. He knows the tendencies, knows the playbook and he can make a pass so spontaneously.” I think Worthy was trying to get at something we’ve talked a lot about in the summer. Russell has the ability to see the action before it happens and also react super quickly whenever he needs to. Scott thought he looked well with shooters around him on the floor with Kelly, Lou and Young/Kobe and might play that a little more. “I told him he’s shooting for rookie of the year,” Hibbert said, “but he’s very modest.” The Stats: He scored 5 points on 2-2 shooting (1-1 from three) to go with 3 boards, 11 assists, 2 turnovers and no fouls in 18 minutes. The Action: He waited for the double high screen to come, attacked right and threaded a sweet pass between defenders’ heads to Black for the layup. Lazy flat angle pass on the top of the arc and it was picked off easily. He cut baseline, took a pass, drew the D and kicked to Kelly for the three. He hit Lou coming off the screen for the three. Great cut after giving the ball up to Kobe in the corner, Kobe then found Russell behind the D under the hoop with a bounce pass for a layup. His post entry was picked off (Kobe took the blame on that one as they headed to the sideline for not sealing his man better). Second Half: He no-looked a bounce pass in transition to Black for a slam. He set up Kelly for the dunk off the pocket pass on the sideline pick and roll. He swished a wing pull-up three on a quick pull-up after bringing the ball up court (more please). He hit Kelly for an open three while working off the screen. He found Young open for three. Near touch pass in the lane to Black for the dunk. He broke down the D off the high screen and kicked to Kelly for the open three.

Williams -- -- Lou got to settle into the SG role more in this game with Russell out there. I think the Lakers envisioned Huertas providing that with Russell staring, but injuries have thrown a wrench in those plans. The Lakers had 4 players score in double digits off the bench. Williams did his usual drawing FTs and hit a couple threes. The ball was moving and not sticking with anyone. The Lakers sank 14-26 threes. Nice to see them finally knocking them down with consistency. The Stats: He scored 13 points on 4-7 shooting (2-5 from three, 3-3 from the line) to go with 2 boards, 3 assists, 2 turnovers and 1 foul in 19 minutes. He was a +30. The Action: He missed an early offense three from the wing. He set up Kelly for the open elbow jumper off the two-man game. Quick cut off the high post entry to Kelly, he took the drop pass and scored the And-1 layup. He drew a charge in the post. He forced a pass a little late into a crowd and it was picked off. He swished a step-back sideline three off the Russell feed. He sank the step-back baseline jumper next time down. He had 8 points on 3-4 shooting. Second Half: He missed a wing three. He drew FTs attacking off the long pass from Russell, he made both. He missed a wing jumper coming off a screen. He sank a three off the high screen from Kelly.

Black -- -- These are the kinds of games you want to see from Tarik. Guys setting him for easy scores or dunks, Tarik running the floor or getting offensive boards off hustle. It ads up over the course of his minutes. He didn’t show anything we hadn’t seen from him last year. We just had a better passing guard in Russell out there. Defensively, we’ve seen him able to hold his own last year at the C spot. He’s not going to anchor the D great, but his mobility can help. The Stats: He scored 12 points on 6-9 shooting (0-1 from the line) to go with 4 boards, 1 turnover and 1 foul in 18 minutes. He was a +31. The Action: He threw a pass across court and out of bounds. He scored a layup off the screen-roll with Russell. Second Half: He scored an And-1 reverse off the drive and dish from Clarkson, he missed the FT. He slammed off the no-look bounce pass from Russell in transition (good job changing ends). He missed a jumphook short, got it back and missed again. He dunked off the drive and dish from Kelly. He slammed back down a missed Kelly layup over the D. Nice attack from the elbow off our elbow split play, but he couldn’t finish at the rim. Russell found him with a near touch pass in the lane a few seconds later for the dunk.

Young -- -- Nick was sinking the three ball, including a buzzer beater at the end of the third. That second unit of Black, Kelly, Young, Williams and Russell shot a combined 23-35. Of course, they were against much lesser competition, but they were very effective regardless. Scott will probably give this unit more run to see how they do against tougher competition. A couple of weaker moments from Nick early in the game on both ends, but the rest of the night was strong. The Stats: He scored 16 points on 6-10 shooting (4-6 from three) to go with 4 boards, 1 assist, 1 steal and 2 fouls in 23 minutes. He was a +22. The Action: Poor D off ball and he gave up a layup. He missed a long chuck on iso. He swished the wing jumper coming off the pindown. He missed a wing three. He sank the pull-up off the pindown screen in the chin series. He swished a sideline three on the kickout from Clarkson. Second Half: He missed a wild wing jumper with the shotclock winding down. He missed an elbow jumper coming off the screens. He swished a wing three off a swing pass. He iso’d, worked off the screen and drained the three at the top of the arc at the third quarter buzzer. He swished an open three off the Russell feed.

Upshaw -- -- He got some garbage time run in this one. Hard to really evaluate anyone in those deep bench minutes. He didn’t get the shotblocks or the opportunities to alter shots in his limited time. He also didn’t have any touches on the other end. The Stats: He didn’t score or shoot, had 1 board, 1 turnover and 1 foul in 7 minutes. He was a -6. The Action: He did not play in the half. Second Half: He went to the floor to recover a loose ball.

World Peace -- -- Limited action late in the fourth quarter with the deep bench. He didn’t do much out there as the game was a massive blowout. The Stats: He didn’t score on 0-1 shooting to go with 2 boards and no fouls in 7 minutes. He was a -6. The Action: He did not play in the half. Second Half: He missed a pull-up baseline jumper off the pull-back dribble.

Kelly -- -- This is the Kelly the Lakers want to see more of. It helps when you play him at PF instead of SF. He spread the floor well, sinking open threes as the guards found him. He moved the ball like he always does and he attacked the paint. Having a four that can spread the floor is huge today. This has probably cemented him on the roster with his guaranteed deal. He just needed to show the potential again. Good job hitting the boards with 7 in his 17 minutes. At the SF spot he doesn’t grab many. String these kinds of games together, please. He’s looked good in the clips of practice and now he’s bringing that to the floor so far this season. The Lakers have Bass and Randle at the PF spot, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see Bass played a little more at backup C in a small unit to try to get Kelly PF time and spread the floor for the guards. The Stats: He scored 15 points on 5-7 shooting (3-3 from three, 2-2 from the line) to go with 7 boards, 3 assists, 1 block, 1 turnover and 1 foul in 17 minutes. He was a +31. The Action: He sank the elbow jumper off the two-man game with Williams. He blocked a layup on a recovery. Nice drop pass to Lou for the And-1 layup. He drained the open corner three on the kickout from Russell. He up-faked, attacked and drew FTs, he made both. His pass was picked off for a layup. He had 7 points and 3 assists in 9 minutes. Second Half: He curled down the lane but couldn’t finish the drive. He took a pocket pass from Russell on the wing PnR and dunked. He curled into the lane off the wing screen and dumped a pass to Black for the dunk. He swished a three off the feed from Russell. He pulled down a miss, missed the putback but Black cleaned it up. He sank another open three off the kickout from Russell. He got backdoored for a dunk.

J. Brown -- -- He scratched out some garbage-time trips to the freethrow line, had a couple misses and one turnover. Not enough time to really make an impact and the deep bench lineups make that even more difficult. The Stats: He scored 6 points on 0-2 shooting (6-6 from the line) to go with 2 boards, 1 turnover and 1 foul in 7 minutes. He was a -6. The Action: He did not play in the half. Second Half: He was called for a clear-out foul on the perimeter. He drew FTs filling the lane on the break, he made both. He drew FTs curling into the lane off the floppy sequence, he made both. He attacked and threw a pass away. He somehow avoided a travel call on a step-through brick, got it back and missed the follow-up. He drew FTs and made both.

Nance -- -- He was in with the others in garbage time. He managed a layup and some points from the line and some good rebounding in his limited action. He looked slightly more comfortably out there but I feel it will be a while before he’s really making an impact. He took one jumper and wasn’t close. That’s going to be important for his game, but so is just being able to impose his athleticism on the game. He’s had moments but it hasn’t been there with consistency. The Stats: He scored 4 points on 1-2 shooting (2-2 from the line) to go with 4 boards, 1 steal, 2 turnovers and 1 foul in 7 minutes. He was a -6. The Action: He did not play in the half. Second Half: He grabbed a loose ball and scored a layup. He pushed out a steal and it led to FTs for Jabari. He drew FTs posting up and made both. Good offensive board, but he threw it away expecting a player to continue cutting. He fumbled a perimeter pass away, not paying attention. He missed a face-up sideline jumper.

Frazier -- -- I imagine he’ll be one of the first cuts and will hook up the Defenders. The Lakers have tougher decisions to make elsewhere. He grabbed a couple of boards but missed every shot he attempted in the garbage time. The Stats: He didn’t score on 0-2 shooting (0-1 from three, 0-2 from the line) to go with 2 boards, 1 turnover and 1 foul in 7 minutes. He was a -6. The Action: He did not play in the half. Second Half: He drew FTs in the post, he missed both. He was blocked on a drive. He missed a wing three.

Scott -- -- The Lakers pushed out to a 13-2 lead, smothering Maccabi on man D… Young in For Kobe, up 13… Up 15, he sat Clarkson and A. Brown for Russell and Williams… Black in for Hibbert as the backup C… Kelly in for Randle… The Lakers led 33-16 after the first quarter… He started the same lineup to open the second quarter… He brought in Kobe for Young a minute later… Some great passing sequences among Russell, Kobe, Lou and Kelly in this unit. Some chemistry here… They took a 27-point lead and forced a timeout… Maccabi started jumping passing lanes and the Lakers didn’t adjust, giving up three straight steals. He went back to the starters in the middle of this… The Lakers led 63-40 at the half. The Lakers shot 59% and made 5-12 threes. They had 13 turnovers, however, as Maccabi tallied 10 steals in the half… The Lakers extended to a 79-47 lead, Randle and Kobe taking it to Maccabi... Young in for Kobe… Black in for Hibbert and Lou for Brown… Kelly and Russell in for Clarkson and Randle… The Lakers led 96-58 after back-to-back threes by Russell and Young to end the third quarter… Same unit to start the fourth… Up 116-67, Byron emptied the bench going with Upshaw, Nance, Metta, Jabari and Frazier… The Lakers shot 54% for the game…
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2nd. Thanks DB
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Thanks DB, pleasure as always.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:13 pm    Post subject:

Personally, I am getting the impression that Huertas is on this roster. I think MWP should be on the roster too. And I also want upshaw.

This brings us to Kelly and Bass. Given Kelly's showing tonight, I think he has earned a roster spot as well. I would probably give him the back up minutes behind Randle, with Nance being our third stringer. So what happens to Bass? Back up C. I think Hibbert is best limited to around 30 minutes per game (or less). Put Bass as the back up C behind Hibbert and keep Upshaw. That means we cut Black and Sacre (along with Holmes and Frazier). Unfortunately, I think that's the best decision assuming I am write about Huertas and that MWP sticks around as well. Kelly, if he can reclaim the potential we saw in his rookie year as he is showing thus far, should get minutes.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:21 pm    Post subject:

LakerSanity wrote:
Personally, I am getting the impression that Huertas is on this roster. I think MWP should be on the roster too. And I also want upshaw.

This brings us to Kelly and Bass. Given Kelly's showing tonight, I think he has earned a roster spot as well. I would probably give him the back up minutes behind Randle, with Nance being our third stringer. So what happens to Bass? Back up C. I think Hibbert is best limited to around 30 minutes per game (or less). Put Bass as the back up C behind Hibbert and keep Upshaw. That means we cut Black and Sacre (along with Holmes and Frazier). Unfortunately, I think that's the best decision assuming I am write about Huertas and that MWP sticks around as well. Kelly, if he can reclaim the potential we saw in his rookie year as he is showing thus far, should get minutes.


Even then

Clarkson//Lou/Huertas
Russell/Nick/Anthony
Kobe/MWP/Nance
Randle/Bass/Kelly
Hibbert/Black/Upshaw

That's 15.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:31 pm    Post subject:

Looking forward to watching Russell more. Loved some of his assists. Some passes were ones most guards in the league could not do. It's either that, or we've been missing a real guard for such a long time that I've forgotten what a real guard looks like...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:52 pm    Post subject:

Swaggy is a good shooter when he comes off screens and when there is little pressure. When he plays "Hero Ball" where he pounds the ball, there are too many other options (Kobe, DLO, Randle, Clarkson and Lou Williams)to even consider The Swag.

Interesting to see whoosh will be the backup center - Upshaw, Black or Bass.

Interesting to see what position Swaggu will play - probably SF since Clarkson, Kobe and Lou Williams are much better choices.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:57 pm    Post subject:

Black's energy was there as the game went on but his D was bad from the get go. Disappointing from him, since I thought he could be the backup center.

I might soon subscribe to LakerSanity's plan to waive Black and play Bass as backup C
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:23 pm    Post subject:

Macabbi looked like the Celtics out there. Wonder if that's their normal jerseys.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:32 pm    Post subject:

Washington Generals wore green too
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:54 pm    Post subject:

Thanks DB
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:17 am    Post subject:

Yong wrote:
LakerSanity wrote:
Personally, I am getting the impression that Huertas is on this roster. I think MWP should be on the roster too. And I also want upshaw.

This brings us to Kelly and Bass. Given Kelly's showing tonight, I think he has earned a roster spot as well. I would probably give him the back up minutes behind Randle, with Nance being our third stringer. So what happens to Bass? Back up C. I think Hibbert is best limited to around 30 minutes per game (or less). Put Bass as the back up C behind Hibbert and keep Upshaw. That means we cut Black and Sacre (along with Holmes and Frazier). Unfortunately, I think that's the best decision assuming I am write about Huertas and that MWP sticks around as well. Kelly, if he can reclaim the potential we saw in his rookie year as he is showing thus far, should get minutes.


Even then

Clarkson//Lou/Huertas
Russell/Nick/Anthony
Kobe/MWP/Nance
Randle/Bass/Kelly
Hibbert/Black/Upshaw

That's 15.


MWP has no business there on the roster. He is even slower than he used to be - the thing that got everyone mad and finally lead to his amnesty. And he is shooting no better.

If he is good in the gym with youngsters. Keep him as a coach. But keep the roster for (future) players.


And thanks, DB! Great read as always!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:19 am    Post subject:

tlim wrote:
Looking forward to watching Russell more. Loved some of his assists. Some passes were ones most guards in the league could not do. It's either that, or we've been missing a real guard for such a long time that I've forgotten what a real guard looks like...


Last year it was all about Clarkson. But now even just a few games into the preseason DLO is running the O so much better than JC.

Seems like we'll have good times ahead.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:29 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:41 am    Post subject:

Yong wrote:
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Personally, I am getting the impression that Huertas is on this roster. I think MWP should be on the roster too. And I also want upshaw.

This brings us to Kelly and Bass. Given Kelly's showing tonight, I think he has earned a roster spot as well. I would probably give him the back up minutes behind Randle, with Nance being our third stringer. So what happens to Bass? Back up C. I think Hibbert is best limited to around 30 minutes per game (or less). Put Bass as the back up C behind Hibbert and keep Upshaw. That means we cut Black and Sacre (along with Holmes and Frazier). Unfortunately, I think that's the best decision assuming I am write about Huertas and that MWP sticks around as well. Kelly, if he can reclaim the potential we saw in his rookie year as he is showing thus far, should get minutes.


Even then

Clarkson//Lou/Huertas
Russell/Nick/Anthony
Kobe/MWP/Nance
Randle/Bass/Kelly
Hibbert/Black/Upshaw

That's 15.


This is my choice right now as well. J. Brown does not seem to deserve a spot. We should see some more Holmes, but he has a chance to make the team only if MWP does not.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:26 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB. Great as always. Maccabi may be equal to a decent college team. Nevertheless, its good to have one of these games. I have a feeling KB is going to be a league leader in 3's this year (we have guys that can create and he doesn't have to work as hard getting his points). Also, Kelly did look really good. As Stu pointed out, you just have to forget last season. Enjoy the weekend.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:33 am    Post subject:

I want to say that I am impressed with four guys especially.
Roy Hibbert played exactly what I expecting from him. Great , just great defense, lots of boards, few really nice assists . I really do not care at all how much he is gonna score. Blocks, protecting the rim and boards are his part of the job, we have enough fire power to score.
Second guy, Randle. Great game, he is playing better and better every day. I am expecting from him to stay hungry and to deal with the bad games he is going to have. Its always with the rookies like that. If you can stay hungry and to be able to deal with critics and bad games at the beginning you can become special.
Thrd guy, DLO. He played great in my opinion. This is exactly his job. To play for others and to make them better on the court. For him, scoring will come with the time.First he need to find some good spots for himself, to find ways how to score and to become more comfortable.
Last one, Kelly. I know that lots of fans are against Kelly but in my opinion he is really good player. If you can find him the place in the team and his role he can be really efficient.His shooting is really good, his defence is average but his is not some defensive hole. Good player for 10 minutes if the matchup is good for h.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:34 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:57 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB - missed the first half but what I saw in the second was pretty fun, up until the bottom 5 came in and reminded me of what it was like to watch last years' team.

From the comments of starters and rotation guys it sounds like ball movement is starting to matter to them. Sure, we were up against the 'Washington Generals.' Still, what I saw with DLo orchestrating was some very good basketball. That was fun.

I hear more than a few NBA 'analysts' taking the easy cheap shots that there aren't enough basketballs to go around for ball hogs like Kobe, Lou Williams, Swaggy, and even Jordan Clarkson. What I'm seeing is Kobe actively developing a back and forth game with DLo, JC and several others, JC switching between PG and SG quite willingly depending who's on the floor and moving the ball quite a bit, Williams playing within the offense as well, and even Swaggy toning the iso ball. This looked nothing like the ball hogalla these analysts were predicting. Just the opposite in fact.

The only ball hogging I saw was in the final quarter was once the bottom 5 came in and we got J Brown crashing into people and drawing fouls repeatedly.

A couple more thoughts - I like what Hibbert has to say when he gets a microphone around him, he sounds like a guy who'll help off the court more than I expected. I also like how he's playing his role on court, and I'm surprised how well he can pass the ball.

Randle - seems like he's pissed as hell about the broken leg, missing a season, getting restricted minutes, and he's playing with a chip on his shoulder. "Hungry" as Hibbert said.

Kelly - IF he can keep playing the 4 position and playing it the way he has been so far, I'm willing to forget last season and say he's a keeper, and a rotation guy for that matter. Huge improvement in play so far.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:05 am    Post subject:

Thanks for the game summary DB.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:25 pm    Post subject:

I think UCLA would have given them a harder time, maybe this can serve as a confidence booster, but it is like when you beat up the (bleep) down the street as a kid, no real competition!

Can we please see them defeat an NBA team...
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