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safari_in_cali
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 Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:00 pm Post subject: Tesla Roadster - 100% electric sports car WOW |
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Check this out, just announced last week http://www.teslamotors.com
Performance
* 0-60 mph: around four seconds
* 0-100 mph: under 11 seconds
* Range: 200-250 miles per charge (estimated)
* Top speed: over 130 mph
Available mid-2007 (for about $80,000-$120,000)
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LakerLegend
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Regarding electric cars, have they solved the issue where some of them catch fire when they are recharging?
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safari_in_cali
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerLegend wrote: | | Regarding electric cars, have they solved the issue where some of them catch fire when they are recharging? |
How safe is it to charge?
Our charge system will be listed by a NRTL (Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory), such as UL or CSA, and incorporates a GFCI (Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter) very similar to the plugs in most bathrooms and kitchens. Before every charge, computers in both the car and the charge system make sure the car is both parked and all electrical systems are working perfectly. We've even added additional safety features to shut down charge if the cord is tugged, or if water or smoke is detected.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Nice ride...
But of course, its only affordable for people that don't have to worry much about the price of gas.
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rracer99
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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The specs are simply amazing.
Im not that interested in the "sports" performance, I just never realized battery cars could do ANYTHING like that.
More at:
http://wired.com/news/wiredmag/0,71414-0.html?tw=wn_story_page_prev2
They are talking about the potential for 2x battery capacity in the next few years... Which could double the numbers.
There are so many positives to this technology, if they solve safety, operating time and cost (they have a sedan coming in 2008 that will be cheaper, they are pricing this like a sports car because of how they are positioning it).
From reading this it seems battery pro/cons are far ahead of fuel cell/hybrid, etc. I wonder if the auto industry is investing in the right direction. |
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Dorray
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| Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| JD wrote: | Nice ride...
But of course, its only affordable for people that don't have to worry much about the price of gas.
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| If this company can do this with absolutely no gasoline, this goes to show how long the big motor companies have held back on moving towards this technology in the first place... It's pretty pathetic actually, how naive we can all be. |
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| Tryangles wrote: | | If this company can do this with absolutely no gasoline, this goes to show how long the big motor companies have held back on moving towards this technology in the first place... It's pretty pathetic actually, how naive we can all be. |
I agree.
The only thing we have done as a country by continually suckling on petroleum is foster terrorism.
If the United States could ever get weened off gas then terrorists could no longer buy 50,000 dollar RPG's from Russia. they would simply go back to herding goats in the desert. This technology was stalled on purpose for decades and only now do we realize that mega dollars in the hands of islamo-facists is not a good thing.
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| Kobe>T-mac wrote: | | Tryangles wrote: | | If this company can do this with absolutely no gasoline, this goes to show how long the big motor companies have held back on moving towards this technology in the first place... It's pretty pathetic actually, how naive we can all be. |
I agree.
The only thing we have done as a country by continually suckling on petroleum is foster terrorism.
If the United States could ever get weened off gas then terrorists could no longer buy 50,000 dollar RPG's from Russia. they would simply go back to herding goats in the desert. This technology was stalled on purpose for decades and only now do we realize that mega dollars in the hands of islamo-facists is not a good thing. |
remember folks. Oil was also heavy in Alaska and Texas (US, not middle east). If you jump on this technology as soon as you found it. then really put time and all of the US' resources into safety and pushing as much power out of these battery cars or whatever. say good by to big oil business in the US as well. Then a lot of Texans, and companies who have Dibs on Alaskan oil, would have to get new jobs. Who wants to get a new job. when your current job is paying great? not many. |
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one negative fall back of the "100% Torque, 100% of the Time "
is that, if it accelerates like it says. then that means teens, old schoolers, and everyday folk will be running into to stuff before they get used to that quick acceleration.
and something else just came to me. sure if we went all electricity with it. and start putting batteries in all the cars. it would also help the environment. But, would it be another cause of cancer? kind of like power lines. just imagine constantly being around different types of high powered batteries, all day and all night. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:22 am Post subject: |
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| postandpivot wrote: | | Kobe>T-mac wrote: | | Tryangles wrote: | | If this company can do this with absolutely no gasoline, this goes to show how long the big motor companies have held back on moving towards this technology in the first place... It's pretty pathetic actually, how naive we can all be. |
I agree.
The only thing we have done as a country by continually suckling on petroleum is foster terrorism.
If the United States could ever get weened off gas then terrorists could no longer buy 50,000 dollar RPG's from Russia. they would simply go back to herding goats in the desert. This technology was stalled on purpose for decades and only now do we realize that mega dollars in the hands of islamo-facists is not a good thing. |
remember folks. Oil was also heavy in Alaska and Texas (US, not middle east). If you jump on this technology as soon as you found it. then really put time and all of the US' resources into safety and pushing as much power out of these battery cars or whatever. say good by to big oil business in the US as well. Then a lot of Texans, and companies who have Dibs on Alaskan oil, would have to get new jobs. Who wants to get a new job. when your current job is paying great? not many. |
Good Point, and I am totally not being political here. Responsibility falls on both parties equally. Big oil lobbyists play golf with democrats and republicans.
You would think that after 100 years of automobiles we would have found a way to get rid of gas. We developed the first computer in the 50's with Vacuum tubes. It was huge, it cost millions of dollars and it sat in an army tent and could barely calculate basic math. 50 Years later we have microchips the size of a grain of salt.
The difference is no one was seeking to impede the progress of computer technology.
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The original cars were run on electric batteries... it's not until the Rockerfellers and other oil tycoons gained more political power that the internal combustion engine became the norm.
Someone mentioned it earlier, but the Who Killed the Electric Car? site is great with information. |
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I know it all sounds great, but where does the electricity come from to recharge these cars? They never mention that replacing all the gas powered cars with electric would require power generators to increase their capacity to recharge these batteries. A lot of the electricity we use is generated in coal fired plants, which can be extremely dirty. Also avoided in these discussions is the disposal of all those lead/acid batteries at the end of their life-cycle.
The only way to go to not replace one polution source with another is solar powered hydrogen tandem cells, which use the sun to extract hyrogen from water, which then is used to power a hydrogen power cell to generate electricity. It's basically a closed system as the sun seperates the wather into hydrogen and oxygen, the cell tehn recombines the hydrogen and oxygen back into water, generating electricity in the process.
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re4ee
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| mike_dee23 wrote: | The original cars were run on electric batteries... it's not until the Rockerfellers and other oil tycoons gained more political power that the internal combustion engine became the norm.
Someone mentioned it earlier, but the Who Killed the Electric Car? site is great with information. |
Some of their info is incorrect, especially the "cons" regarding hydrogen power. Just look at this site... BMW Hydrogen Cars | Quote: | BMW has cars that...
* Run on water
* Emit water vapor at the tailpipe
* Fill automatically with robots
* Use hydrogen made from sunlight
...and they have been at it for over 30 years! |
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re4ee
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| JD wrote: | Nice ride...
But of course, its only affordable for people that don't have to worry much about the price of gas.
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They do claim to be working on a more affordable model that will be competitvely priced, and available 2-3 years after the first sales of this car. |
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Too late.
Sold Out: Tesla's All-Electric Sports Car a Hit With Buyers
| Quote: | SAN CARLOS, Calif. — All 100 of the first all-electric Tesla roadsters, which are due out in summer 2007, are spoken for, reports the company on its Web site.
The carbon-fiber-bodied Tesla Roadster, which was designed by and jointly developed with Lotus, made its debut on July 19 in Santa Monica. At that point, 37 buyers had plunked down deposits.
The car is fitted with a lithium-ion battery pack and a 185kW (248 hp) electric motor driving the rear wheels through a clutchless 2-speed automatic transmission. Tesla says its roadster goes from zero to 60 mph in about four seconds, on a par with a Ferrari. But you get a hum instead of a vroom. The company also says the car achieves the equivalent of 135 mpg.
Among Tesla's investors are Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin.
What this means to you: The opportunity to get your hands on this electric supercar has come and gone — for now.
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