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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:03 pm    Post subject:

lakerican wrote:
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Down the stretch Randle hit two big shots, and Kobe took some bad shots. Lou fumbled the pass out of bounds.

Thank God for the veterans


Please, don't mention Kobe ill advised shots, specially, the last one...


(bleep) that. Kobe is why we won tonight.


wow...


Kobe playing with the ball in his hands once they cross half court started in the second quarter. Kobe started 0/6 in the first catching and shooting. Then he got on the ball up top in the second and told people where to go, he was the one talking and setting it up over Russell and Clarkson up top trying to ... From that point on he went 5/10 3rebs and 3asts with 16 points. He's much more comfortable doing that to he gets his arm strength back

Russell A++ (**** Scott kid, you belonged out there)
Kobe B
Clarkson C (he can't play just one end, Scott isn't helping by rewarding him for not playing D)
Randle A (loved his screens and activity off the ball)
Hibbert C- (hit that glass harder)
Lou B- (better D than Huertas, hope the hand is okay)
Swaggy B (better D than Clarkson, should not have gotten pulled in the fourth)
Metta A+ (intensity and attention to detail, plus he hit a in game 3 unlike Kelly)
Nance A ( loved the defense, hustle, cutting)
Black A (I like bass, but Black is better if Scott's stuck on bass as a 5, even stayed out of foul trouble)

Kobe made Russell far more comfortable in the offense with the ball up top. He also froze out JC's tunnel vision. He even rewarded the bigs with a spoon feed and hit Nance off a cut, Lou off a oin down, Nick off a pin down, Roy, and others while telling them verbally where to go. IT was more organized.

People have to accept Kobe isn't Pierce and we don't have a Wall. They have to accept he simply can't catch and shoot after 8 months without lifting, shooting, or dribbling.That doesn't make him non-useful. HE can still be the Blazers version of Pippen that played with Stoudemire and Bonzi, directing the O as a qb in the pocket to get things going from the floor after the younger guy advances it vs pressure.Heck he didnt even play in the preseason with the lienup that is starting now but a game and a quarter which people ignore when talking about its spacing or defense

Kobe being on the ball opened the floor up, kept guys from being clustered together, and it gave Randle the room to iso, to roll and to move without ping ponging everyone. The second unit still ran smoother in an actual game that counts and had better spacing than when Huertas, Kelly, and Bass play as Kobe had the ball primarily which allows Nick to spot up or Lou to come off picks and draw fouls.

Kobe alone isn't why we won, but his use and actually being allowed to play like he was raised and taught to play by Phil got us our first win and made everyone more comfortable.

Kobe did not ask anyone to do anything when he moved on the ball, he began to bark and point, and the youngings reacted to actual direction


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:11 pm    Post subject:

foshowtime wrote:
Metta is so entertaining
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:13 pm    Post subject:

wow...

The GOAT shall be able to pass the ball...
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:18 pm    Post subject:

MWPs first appearance and Lakers first win. Coincidence? I don't think so!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:27 pm    Post subject:

Nance should get all the backup PF minutes

Black should get all the backup C minutes

Huertas shouldnt play

Metta is good for the guys out there. Eventually wanna see Brown get in the mix too

Let Huertas, Sacre, Kelley and Bass ride the bench

Give less mins to Swaggy and Lou and more to JC and DLo
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:30 pm    Post subject:

Kblo247! wrote:
lakerican wrote:
All_Star_Laker wrote:
lakerican wrote:
foshowtime wrote:
Down the stretch Randle hit two big shots, and Kobe took some bad shots. Lou fumbled the pass out of bounds.

Thank God for the veterans


Please, don't mention Kobe ill advised shots, specially, the last one...


(bleep) that. Kobe is why we won tonight.


wow...


Kobe playing with the ball in his hands once they cross half court started in the second quarter. Kobe started 0/6 in the first catching and shooting. Then he got on the ball up top in the second and told people where to go, he was the one talking and setting it up over Russell and Clarkson up top trying to ... From that point on he went 5/10 3rebs and 3asts with 16 points. He's much more comfortable doing that to he gets his arm strength back

Russell A++ (**** Scott kid, you belonged out there)
Kobe B
Clarkson C (he can't play just one end, Scott isn't helping by rewarding him for not playing D)
Randle A (loved his screens and activity off the ball)
Hibbert C- (hit that glass harder)
Lou B- (better D than Huertas, hope the hand is okay)
Swaggy B (better D than Clarkson, should not have gotten pulled in the fourth)
Metta A+ (intensity and attention to detail, plus he hit a in game 3 unlike Kelly)
Nance A ( loved the defense, hustle, cutting)
Black A (I like bass, but Black is better if Scott's stuck on bass as a 5, even stayed out of foul trouble)

Kobe made Russell far more comfortable in the offense with the ball up top. He also froze out JC's tunnel vision. He even rewarded the bigs with a spoon feed and hit Nance off a cut, Lou off a oin down, Nick off a pin down, Roy, and others while telling them verbally where to go. IT was more organized.

People have to accept Kobe isn't Pierce and we don't have a Wall. They have to accept he simply can't catch and shoot after 8 months without lifting, shooting, or dribbling.That doesn't make him non-useful. HE can still be the Blazers version of Pippen that played with Stoudemire and Bonzi, directing the O as a qb in the pocket to get things going from the floor after the younger guy advances it vs pressure.Heck he didnt even play in the preseason with the lienup that is starting now but a game and a quarter which people ignore when talking about its spacing or defense

Kobe being on the ball opened the floor up, kept guys from being clustered together, and it gave Randle the room to iso, to roll and to move without ping ponging everyone. The second unit still ran smoother in an actual game that counts and had better spacing than when Huertas, Kelly, and Bass play as Kobe had the ball primarily which allows Nick to spot up or Lou to come off picks and draw fouls.

Kobe alone isn't why we won, but his use and actually being allowed to play like he was raised and taught to play by Phil got us our first win and made everyone more comfortable.

Kobe did not ask anyone to do anything when he moved on the ball, he began to bark and point, and the youngings reacted to actual direction



Quality post!

Kobe is also the best post-entry passer on the team.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:35 pm    Post subject:

Kblo247! wrote:
lakerican wrote:
All_Star_Laker wrote:
lakerican wrote:
foshowtime wrote:
Down the stretch Randle hit two big shots, and Kobe took some bad shots. Lou fumbled the pass out of bounds.

Thank God for the veterans


Please, don't mention Kobe ill advised shots, specially, the last one...


(bleep) that. Kobe is why we won tonight.


wow...


Kobe playing with the ball in his hands once they cross half court started in the second quarter. Kobe started 0/6 in the first catching and shooting. Then he got on the ball up top in the second and told people where to go, he was the one talking and setting it up over Russell and Clarkson up top trying to ... From that point on he went 5/10 3rebs and 3asts with 16 points. He's much more comfortable doing that to he gets his arm strength back

Russell A++ (**** Scott kid, you belonged out there)
Kobe B
Clarkson C (he can't play just one end, Scott isn't helping by rewarding him for not playing D)
Randle A (loved his screens and activity off the ball)
Hibbert C- (hit that glass harder)
Lou B- (better D than Huertas, hope the hand is okay)
Swaggy B (better D than Clarkson, should not have gotten pulled in the fourth)
Metta A+ (intensity and attention to detail, plus he hit a in game 3 unlike Kelly)
Nance A ( loved the defense, hustle, cutting)
Black A (I like bass, but Black is better if Scott's stuck on bass as a 5, even stayed out of foul trouble)

Kobe made Russell far more comfortable in the offense with the ball up top. He also froze out JC's tunnel vision. He even rewarded the bigs with a spoon feed and hit Nance off a cut, Lou off a oin down, Nick off a pin down, Roy, and others while telling them verbally where to go. IT was more organized.

People have to accept Kobe isn't Pierce and we don't have a Wall. They have to accept he simply can't catch and shoot after 8 months without lifting, shooting, or dribbling.That doesn't make him non-useful. HE can still be the Blazers version of Pippen that played with Stoudemire and Bonzi, directing the O as a qb in the pocket to get things going from the floor after the younger guy advances it vs pressure.Heck he didnt even play in the preseason with the lienup that is starting now but a game and a quarter which people ignore when talking about its spacing or defense

Kobe being on the ball opened the floor up, kept guys from being clustered together, and it gave Randle the room to iso, to roll and to move without ping ponging everyone. The second unit still ran smoother in an actual game that counts and had better spacing than when Huertas, Kelly, and Bass play as Kobe had the ball primarily which allows Nick to spot up or Lou to come off picks and draw fouls.

Kobe alone isn't why we won, but his use and actually being allowed to play like he was raised and taught to play by Phil got us our first win and made everyone more comfortable.

Kobe did not ask anyone to do anything when he moved on the ball, he began to bark and point, and the youngings reacted to actual direction


Quality post. Too bad a lot of people will only see the 0-6 in the first quarter and cry he's stunting the development of youth.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:03 pm    Post subject:

iimarshon wrote:
Nance should get all the backup PF minutes

Black should get all the backup C minutes

Huertas shouldnt play

Metta is good for the guys out there. Eventually wanna see Brown get in the mix too

Let Huertas, Sacre, Kelley and Bass ride the bench

Give less mins to Swaggy and Lou and more to JC and DLo


Completely agree. Completely!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:06 pm    Post subject:

iimarshon wrote:
Nance should get all the backup PF minutes

Black should get all the backup C minutes

Huertas shouldnt play

Metta is good for the guys out there. Eventually wanna see Brown get in the mix too

Let Huertas, Sacre, Kelley and Bass ride the bench

Give less mins to Swaggy and Lou and more to JC and DLo


Let's see what happens if it sticks I mean Bass was best at PF than C.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:13 pm    Post subject:

I'm happy for the win, but after reading some of the messages on this board it sounds like a bunch millennials coming off of an ADHD high. Support the players...
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:42 pm    Post subject: Like to see Kobe run the offense

The best PG the Lakers have is Kobe Bryant. He is not the shooter is
was due to his injury. But his court knowledge should be used.
Russell can learn from watching Kobe, but he just can't run a NBA team
right now. But in a year maybe.

Clarkson has to play defense. That is why playing MWP is the key to defense
success. He will teach to rookies.
If Lou concentrates on being a backup PG he can be more effective. His 4 for 18 shooting is not as effective as he running the team.

Black is more effective as back up center.

Sacre, Kelly, and Huertas should ride the bench. Bass and Nance as backup PF depending on matchups.

I sure hope that Byron Scott goes with what works instead of what is perceived to work.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Like to see Kobe run the offense

laker50 wrote:
The best PG the Lakers have is Kobe Bryant. He is not the shooter is
was due to his injury. But his court knowledge should be used.
Russell can learn from watching Kobe, but he just can't run a NBA team
right now. But in a year maybe.

Clarkson has to play defense. That is why playing MWP is the key to defense
success. He will teach to rookies.
If Lou concentrates on being a backup PG he can be more effective. His 4 for 18 shooting is not as effective as he running the team.

Black is more effective as back up center.



Sacre, Kelly, and Huertas should ride the bench. Bass and Nance as backup PF depending on matchups.

I sure hope that Byron Scott goes with what works instead of what is perceived to work.


Which is Kobe runs the offense and as a byproduct scores more comfortably and other players feel better
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:33 am    Post subject:

props to pio2 for manning up in order to win a game
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:47 am    Post subject:

It was good to see the Lakers getting their first win of the season. Nance Jr and Metta finally got some minutes which made a difference defensively IMO. Hopefully Brown features soon as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:00 am    Post subject:

Kblo247! wrote:
lakerican wrote:
All_Star_Laker wrote:
lakerican wrote:
foshowtime wrote:
Down the stretch Randle hit two big shots, and Kobe took some bad shots. Lou fumbled the pass out of bounds.

Thank God for the veterans


Please, don't mention Kobe ill advised shots, specially, the last one...


(bleep) that. Kobe is why we won tonight.


wow...


Kobe playing with the ball in his hands once they cross half court started in the second quarter. Kobe started 0/6 in the first catching and shooting. Then he got on the ball up top in the second and told people where to go, he was the one talking and setting it up over Russell and Clarkson up top trying to ... From that point on he went 5/10 3rebs and 3asts with 16 points. He's much more comfortable doing that to he gets his arm strength back

Russell A++ (**** Scott kid, you belonged out there)
Kobe B
Clarkson C (he can't play just one end, Scott isn't helping by rewarding him for not playing D)
Randle A (loved his screens and activity off the ball)
Hibbert C- (hit that glass harder)
Lou B- (better D than Huertas, hope the hand is okay)
Swaggy B (better D than Clarkson, should not have gotten pulled in the fourth)
Metta A+ (intensity and attention to detail, plus he hit a in game 3 unlike Kelly)
Nance A ( loved the defense, hustle, cutting)
Black A (I like bass, but Black is better if Scott's stuck on bass as a 5, even stayed out of foul trouble)

Kobe made Russell far more comfortable in the offense with the ball up top. He also froze out JC's tunnel vision. He even rewarded the bigs with a spoon feed and hit Nance off a cut, Lou off a oin down, Nick off a pin down, Roy, and others while telling them verbally where to go. IT was more organized.

People have to accept Kobe isn't Pierce and we don't have a Wall. They have to accept he simply can't catch and shoot after 8 months without lifting, shooting, or dribbling.That doesn't make him non-useful. HE can still be the Blazers version of Pippen that played with Stoudemire and Bonzi, directing the O as a qb in the pocket to get things going from the floor after the younger guy advances it vs pressure.Heck he didnt even play in the preseason with the lienup that is starting now but a game and a quarter which people ignore when talking about its spacing or defense

Kobe being on the ball opened the floor up, kept guys from being clustered together, and it gave Randle the room to iso, to roll and to move without ping ponging everyone. The second unit still ran smoother in an actual game that counts and had better spacing than when Huertas, Kelly, and Bass play as Kobe had the ball primarily which allows Nick to spot up or Lou to come off picks and draw fouls.

Kobe alone isn't why we won, but his use and actually being allowed to play like he was raised and taught to play by Phil got us our first win and made everyone more comfortable.

Kobe did not ask anyone to do anything when he moved on the ball, he began to bark and point, and the youngings reacted to actual direction
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:01 am    Post subject: Re: Like to see Kobe run the offense

ReaListik wrote:
laker50 wrote:
The best PG the Lakers have is Kobe Bryant. He is not the shooter is
was due to his injury. But his court knowledge should be used.
Russell can learn from watching Kobe, but he just can't run a NBA team
right now. But in a year maybe.

Clarkson has to play defense. That is why playing MWP is the key to defense
success. He will teach to rookies.
If Lou concentrates on being a backup PG he can be more effective. His 4 for 18 shooting is not as effective as he running the team.

Black is more effective as back up center.



Sacre, Kelly, and Huertas should ride the bench. Bass and Nance as backup PF depending on matchups.

I sure hope that Byron Scott goes with what works instead of what is perceived to work.


Which is Kobe runs the offense and as a byproduct scores more comfortably and other players feel better
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:02 am    Post subject:

Chronicle wrote:
props to pio2 for manning up in order to win a game


PROPS TO THE LAKERS FOR MANNING UP!


*Special shout-out to Metta, Nance Jr, T. Black & D-LO.

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“I think Metta did a great job of changing the tempo of the game,” he said. "He was everywhere.
At one point I leaned over to Julius (Randle) and said, ‘Imagine him when he was 22.’ Because he covers so much ground.”


MAN-UP L.A.!!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:57 pm    Post subject:

Brooklyn has more Kobe fans than Lakers+nets fans combined.
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