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Mike D
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Curry + Thompson?
Westbrook + XYZ?
Rubio/Lavine + Wiggins?
Beverly + Harden?
Kyrie + XYZ?
A single transcendent talent automatically elevates an average player into the conversation of "elite backcourts." Substitute that average player for a strong one who contributes areas like defense, range shooting, or playmaking, and it gets even better.
Neither JC nor DA have shown themselves to be an elite player. |
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| Mike D wrote: | Curry + Thompson?
Westbrook + XYZ?
Rubio/Lavine + Wiggins?
Beverly + Harden?
Kyrie + XYZ?
A single transcendent talent automatically elevates an average player into the conversation of "elite backcourts." Substitute that average player for a strong one who contributes areas like defense, range shooting, or playmaking, and it gets even better.
Neither JC nor DA have shown themselves to be an elite player. |
Damm, there are some great backcourt that are going to be around for awhile. The Lakers are still behind the eight ball. Context is important, you just put the NBA backcourt situation in the proper context.
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^John Wall and Bradley Beal are better than any of the ones you named
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| Mike D wrote: | Curry + Thompson?
Westbrook + XYZ?
Rubio/Lavine + Wiggins?
Beverly + Harden?
Kyrie + XYZ?
A single transcendent talent automatically elevates an average player into the conversation of "elite backcourts." Substitute that average player for a strong one who contributes areas like defense, range shooting, or playmaking, and it gets even better.
Neither JC nor DA have shown themselves to be an elite player. |
JC is starting to show signs in my opinion. I think the fact that he was taken in the second round sits in the back of everyone's mind, maybe even subconsciously. But he is physically gifted, has the drive to be the best, improves every time he steps on the court it seems...Not saying he's elite yet, but I think it's time we start shifting our expectations for him a bit. I think for most of last season we all saw a good player, maybe one that becomes a starter on a championship level team. But he's starting to show that "it" factor that may turn him into a franchise guard. What's really stopping him? He has the tools and the drive. I think it's the stain of being taken in the second round that's holding fans expectations at bay. |
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| in honor of golden state's "splash brothers" and trying to bring back some showtime back to the lakers; i nominate calling russell and clarson the "flash brothers" because the back-court is gonna be ridiculousy exciting and really flashy. there's gonna be highlights of them every time they play. |
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KobeRe-Loaded
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Guess Curry & Thompson don't count.
SMH |
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| Mike bibby,Jason terry |
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| GRE4T ONE wrote: | | Mike bibby,Jason terry |
I'll raise you a Magic / Cooper
(NVE & Eddie weren't too shabby either)
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| Chronicle wrote: | | oops looks like I went to overreact.net again |
Actually it might not take 3 years to be one of the top PG-SG combos
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| Mike D wrote: | Curry + Thompson?
Westbrook + XYZ?
Rubio/Lavine + Wiggins?
Beverly + Harden?
Kyrie + XYZ?
A single transcendent talent automatically elevates an average player into the conversation of "elite backcourts." Substitute that average player for a strong one who contributes areas like defense, range shooting, or playmaking, and it gets even better.
Neither JC nor DA have shown themselves to be an elite player. |
Neither have Thompson, XYZ, Rubio, Lavine, Wiggins, Beverly or Kyrie but you included them.
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| KobeButler wrote: | | too bad we didnt lock clarkson up when we had a chance...he restircted next year. |
That means the Lakers can match all of the Max offers  |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Mike D wrote: | Curry + Thompson?
Westbrook + XYZ?
Rubio/Lavine + Wiggins?
Beverly + Harden?
Kyrie + XYZ?
A single transcendent talent automatically elevates an average player into the conversation of "elite backcourts." Substitute that average player for a strong one who contributes areas like defense, range shooting, or playmaking, and it gets even better.
Neither JC nor DA have shown themselves to be an elite player. |
Neither have Thompson, XYZ, Rubio, Lavine, Wiggins, Beverly or Kyrie but you included them. |
 exactly. |
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Mike D
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Mike D wrote: | Curry + Thompson?
Westbrook + XYZ?
Rubio/Lavine + Wiggins?
Beverly + Harden?
Kyrie + XYZ?
A single transcendent talent automatically elevates an average player into the conversation of "elite backcourts." Substitute that average player for a strong one who contributes areas like defense, range shooting, or playmaking, and it gets even better.
Neither JC nor DA have shown themselves to be an elite player. |
Neither have Thompson, XYZ, Rubio, Lavine, Wiggins, Beverly or Kyrie but you included them. |
Disagree on Thompson, Kyrie, and Wiggins.
Thompson is an AS level guy, and an excellent two way player. Between his lights out (historical level) shooting, willing and capable defender, and history of healthiness, he has a ton of value around the league. Further, he's an All-NBA guy too; that's not elite to you? Who on this roster wouldn't be traded for him? Maybe Russell, and that's it.
Kyrie is a top flight level point guard; he's an Olympian, AS, and he's still young. Injuries will be his undoing, if anything.
Wiggins has shown, albeit briefly, that he has huge potential and is putting it together. Elite athleticism, a growing offensive and defensive game, and you certainly see why he's considered one of the highest potential players out of the last 5 years.
Beverly is not elite, but when you couple him to Harden, that's certainly an elite back court.
Whoever you couple to Wiggins (LaVine or Rubio) has potential to be part of an elite backcourt.
Maybe you should stick to your Kobe blasting, VLF.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Mike D wrote: | Curry + Thompson?
Westbrook + XYZ?
Rubio/Lavine + Wiggins?
Beverly + Harden?
Kyrie + XYZ?
A single transcendent talent automatically elevates an average player into the conversation of "elite backcourts." Substitute that average player for a strong one who contributes areas like defense, range shooting, or playmaking, and it gets even better.
Neither JC nor DA have shown themselves to be an elite player. |
Neither have Thompson, XYZ, Rubio, Lavine, Wiggins, Beverly or Kyrie but you included them. |
Thompson and Kyrie are CLEARLY elite players. Just because Thompson had a subpar finals doesn't mean we need to demote him. They are both all-stars and have had virtuoso games, which are the signs of a great player. A great player will have those unconscious nights, and these guys have both had those special games. |
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| epak wrote: | | KobeButler wrote: | | too bad we didnt lock clarkson up when we had a chance...he restircted next year. |
Why is that bad? |
Cause we could of offered a 2+2 team option contract..now we gotta hope a team doesnt overpay next summer and make us match.
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| Treble Clef wrote: | | KobeButler wrote: | | too bad we didnt lock clarkson up when we had a chance...he restircted next year. |
That means the Lakers can match all of the Max offers |
And all any other team can offer is the MLE for the first two years. Great deal by the FO. Clarkson can't be paid by any other team until 2018-2019, the Lakers can pay him more starting in 2016-2017. Advantage Lakers.
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| All those other duos had plenty of time to develop.. This duo is gonna need to some time . |
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I think OP said in 3 years.
We are in year 1.
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Haven't really seen enough from these two to believe they'll be this championship combo like a Curry/Thompson.
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| ReaListik wrote: | | Haven't really seen enough from these two to believe they'll be this championship combo like a Curry/Thompson. |
I don't think they'll be as good as those two but they could still form a solid core to make a very good run or two in the future. |
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| pio2u wrote: | | ReaListik wrote: | | Haven't really seen enough from these two to believe they'll be this championship combo like a Curry/Thompson. |
I don't think they'll be as good as those two but they could still form a solid core to make a very good run or two in the future. |
They would need to step up their level of play immensely in the next 3 years on both ends of the floor. If one lacks in defense then the other needs to be badass enough to make up for any deficiency.
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| ReaListik wrote: | | pio2u wrote: | | ReaListik wrote: | | Haven't really seen enough from these two to believe they'll be this championship combo like a Curry/Thompson. |
I don't think they'll be as good as those two but they could still form a solid core to make a very good run or two in the future. |
They would need to step up their level of play immensely in the next 3 years on both ends of the floor. If one lacks in defense then the other needs to be badass enough to make up for any deficiency. |
They both definitely need to dramatically improve on the defensive end. It's all a work in progress. |
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