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kaoss128
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 Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:30 am Post subject: Re: Hassan Whiteside - what's the story on him? |
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| shnxx wrote: | How did someone this good slip through the hands of every other team except the Miami Heat?
He's single handedly propelling Miami into a playoff team. |
Huge character issues. |
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ocho
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | @haralabob 2m2 minutes ago
In case you missed it Hassan Whiteside has played 77 games and tallied 9 assists in his CAREER. Thats amazing. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Well in fairness he's basically a play finisher. He's not given the ball all that much in the post to do anything but finish plays or score or put back in misses. |
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tj24
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | tj24 wrote: | Lakers worked him out last year but signed Ronnie Price instead  |
Was Wayne Ellington. |
thats our gm. more concerned with giving former unc guys jobs than team needs. |
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ocho
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | | Well in fairness he's basically a play finisher. He's not given the ball all that much in the post to do anything but finish plays or score or put back in misses. |
I agree with all of that. But still. There are a good amount of centers who are asked to just be finishers. He's just about dead last in Assist Rate among Centers this year. Last year he was dead last. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| ocho wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: | | Well in fairness he's basically a play finisher. He's not given the ball all that much in the post to do anything but finish plays or score or put back in misses. |
I agree with all of that. But still. There are a good amount of centers who are asked to just be finishers. He's just about dead last in Assist Rate among Centers this year. Last year he was dead last. |
There's probably an argument to be made that it's actually more useful as a center to be a deadly finisher overall for the offense. |
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ocho
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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| jonnybravo wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: | | Well in fairness he's basically a play finisher. He's not given the ball all that much in the post to do anything but finish plays or score or put back in misses. |
I agree with all of that. But still. There are a good amount of centers who are asked to just be finishers. He's just about dead last in Assist Rate among Centers this year. Last year he was dead last. |
There's probably an argument to be made that it's actually more useful as a center to be a deadly finisher overall for the offense. |
I think it would be hard to make the argument that never passing or being able to assist a basket other than your own is a positive. He's obviously still an effective player. But that's a big hole in his game. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| ocho wrote: | | jonnybravo wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: | | Well in fairness he's basically a play finisher. He's not given the ball all that much in the post to do anything but finish plays or score or put back in misses. |
I agree with all of that. But still. There are a good amount of centers who are asked to just be finishers. He's just about dead last in Assist Rate among Centers this year. Last year he was dead last. |
There's probably an argument to be made that it's actually more useful as a center to be a deadly finisher overall for the offense. |
I think it would be hard to make the argument that never passing or being able to assist a basket other than your own is a positive. He's obviously still an effective player. But that's a big hole in his game. |
I meant in relation to a dump it down into the post and watch him go to work type of guy. Agreed on the assists. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Tark the Shark wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Umm, big miss by EVERY team (including the one where he was actually a part of) except Miami (who passed on him the first time too).  |
Still a big miss considering the rebuild we're in. Come one we keep rostering and guaranteeing a no upside Sacre.
All they had to do was put Whiteside up against Sacre in a workout, and it should have been an easy decision. |
And when he worked out for the Lakers Whiteside was no upside Sacre.
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Tark the Shark
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| Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Tark the Shark wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Umm, big miss by EVERY team (including the one where he was actually a part of) except Miami (who passed on him the first time too). |
Still a big miss considering the rebuild we're in. Come one we keep rostering and guaranteeing a no upside Sacre.
All they had to do was put Whiteside up against Sacre in a workout, and it should have been an easy decision. |
And when he worked out for the Lakers Whiteside was no upside Sacre. |
I realize that you're an FO apologist, but anyone could see that Sacre is a stiff and should be replaced sooner rather than later. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| Tark the Shark wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Tark the Shark wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Umm, big miss by EVERY team (including the one where he was actually a part of) except Miami (who passed on him the first time too). |
Still a big miss considering the rebuild we're in. Come one we keep rostering and guaranteeing a no upside Sacre.
All they had to do was put Whiteside up against Sacre in a workout, and it should have been an easy decision. |
And when he worked out for the Lakers Whiteside was no upside Sacre. |
I realize that you're an FO apologist, but anyone could see that Sacre is a stiff and should be replaced sooner rather than later. |
And when he worked out with the Lakers Whiteside was little more than a stiff. You seem to have a real issue with staying on topic.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:36 am Post subject: |
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| Some things are unpredictable, just let it (bleep) be. |
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It took him more than a month to get any decent playing time in Miami behind Udonis Haslem and Chris Anderson but somehow the Lakers are idiots for not realizing his potential during one workout.
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ch3cky0selff00
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:47 am Post subject: |
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| gng930 wrote: | | It took him more than a month to get any decent playing time in Miami behind Udonis Haslem and Chris Anderson but somehow the Lakers are idiots for not realizing his potential during one workout. |
This times a million lol.
Is it not a possibility that maybe Hassan Whiteside just didn't impress during that workout? It's not as though the Lakers were the only team that worked him out and passed.
I'm happy for him. I hope he's matured because I read he wasn't really a player who was open to suggestions or working out with veteran players when he was younger. |
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| ocho wrote: | | Quote: | @haralabob 2m2 minutes ago
In case you missed it Hassan Whiteside has played 77 games and tallied 9 assists in his CAREER. Thats amazing. |
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If I shot 63 percent I wouldn't pass either
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SuperboyReformed
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| Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: Hassan Whiteside - what's the story on him? |
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| ocho wrote: | | shnxx wrote: | How did someone this good slip through the hands of every other team except the Miami Heat?
He's single handedly propelling Miami into a playoff team. |
The short version is that the league is insanely competitive from a talent perspective. Some times players need the right situation to blossom. Some players bloom late. Some players get better rapidly. Others regress.
Whiteside got drafted by the Kings and was sent to the D-League twice before being waived. He spent some time playing in Lebanon. Spent time playing in China. He signed with the Grizzlies, got waived, signed with them again, and got waived again. Signed with Miami and got sent down to the D-League and came back up. He has temperament issues, as recently as last season, and his teammates in Miami have publicly complained about his attitude. It's awesome that Whiteside has discovered and displayed his talents, but it's not like other teams are fools for passing on a volatile player who has been a journeyman already at age 26. He's a 2nd round pick with an attitude problem.
That's the dilemma going into next summer. He's going to get a max contract from somebody. He may or may not be the kind of guy you want to invest in. On the one hand, you've got a 26 year old rim protecting, rebounding monster. On the other hand, you could have the next Andrew Bynum. I'm leaning towards rolling the dice on him, but he's not a sure thing between the ears. |
now that is an informed post! |
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