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A man draped in an American flag attempts to pre-empt elections and takeover the White House in yet another failed Republican Presidential bid. Mr. Donald Mitt-Bush was apprehended by Secret Service after dropping to his knees and praying to Gollah for forgiveness. Secret Service Officials declined to engage in a Turkey Shoot.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:53 am    Post subject:

White male domestic terrorist with long gun and explosive devices takes hostages, kills 3 (including police officer), wounds 9, manages to surrender to police alive, and the outrage is where? ::crickets::
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:36 am    Post subject:

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White male domestic terrorist with long gun and explosive devices takes hostages, kills 3 (including police officer), wounds 9, manages to surrender to police alive, and the outrage is where? ::crickets::


It's those (bleep) English immigrants/refugees! I warned people that they and their descendants would be trouble, but no one listened. Well, America, you reap what you sow.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:32 pm    Post subject:

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White male domestic terrorist with long gun and explosive devices takes hostages, kills 3 (including police officer), wounds 9, manages to surrender to police alive, and the outrage is where? ::crickets::


Another mass shooting here in the US.

Another "Enough is enough" speech by President Obama.

I voted for him twice and would do so again if it were an option. But I'm sick of the hollow condemnations of these shooting that come with no attempts to do anything about them.

The Right has been saying for years now that Obama is coming for their guns. Time to prove them right Mr. Obama, or save us the speeches.
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White male domestic terrorist with long gun and explosive devices takes hostages, kills 3 (including police officer), wounds 9, manages to surrender to police alive, and the outrage is where? ::crickets::


Another mass shooting here in the US.

Another "Enough is enough" speech by President Obama.

I voted for him twice and would do so again if it were an option. But I'm sick of the hollow condemnations of these shooting that come with no attempts to do anything about them.

The Right has been saying for years now that Obama is coming for their guns. Time to prove them right Mr. Obama, or save us the speeches.


What could he do? Is there some sort of executive order he could issue?
Kinda seems like a problem only the legislative branch could solve.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:06 pm    Post subject:

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White male domestic terrorist with long gun and explosive devices takes hostages, kills 3 (including police officer), wounds 9, manages to surrender to police alive, and the outrage is where? ::crickets::

I would love it if other countries started restricting United States immigrants from entering their country.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:47 pm    Post subject:

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White male domestic terrorist with long gun and explosive devices takes hostages, kills 3 (including police officer), wounds 9, manages to surrender to police alive, and the outrage is where? ::crickets::


No doubt. Imagine if the shooter was a Black GangBanger wearing a DooRag? It would be an early Christmas in Right-Wing Bubbleshpere. The NRA would be promoting arming Planned Parenthood Clinics whilst A.L.E.C proposed new Stand Your Ground Laws specifically designed for Police allowing them to execute darker skinned people who are found inside clinics, whether they are armed or not, and even if proof was found on their persons that they were at the clinic for a procedure - because you just never know when a black guy might turn out to be a gangbanger bent on forcing an abortion upon his enslaved white girlfriend.
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White male domestic terrorist with long gun and explosive devices takes hostages, kills 3 (including police officer), wounds 9, manages to surrender to police alive, and the outrage is where? ::crickets::


No doubt. Imagine if the shooter was a Black GangBanger wearing a DooRag? It would be an early Christmas in Right-Wing Bubbleshpere. The NRA would be promoting arming Planned Parenthood Clinics whilst A.L.E.C proposed new Stand Your Ground Laws specifically designed for Police allowing them to execute darker skinned people who are found inside clinics, whether they are armed or not, and even if proof was found on their persons that they were at the clinic for a procedure - because you just never know when a black guy might turn out to be a gangbanger bent on forcing an abortion upon his enslaved white girlfriend.

Not really. Just had a black gangbanger execute a 9yr old black boy and all the focus is still on the white cop shooting a black guy on pcp wielding a knife 17 times
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Halflife wrote:
Aussiesuede wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
White male domestic terrorist with long gun and explosive devices takes hostages, kills 3 (including police officer), wounds 9, manages to surrender to police alive, and the outrage is where? ::crickets::


No doubt. Imagine if the shooter was a Black GangBanger wearing a DooRag? It would be an early Christmas in Right-Wing Bubbleshpere. The NRA would be promoting arming Planned Parenthood Clinics whilst A.L.E.C proposed new Stand Your Ground Laws specifically designed for Police allowing them to execute darker skinned people who are found inside clinics, whether they are armed or not, and even if proof was found on their persons that they were at the clinic for a procedure - because you just never know when a black guy might turn out to be a gangbanger bent on forcing an abortion upon his enslaved white girlfriend.

Not really. Just had a black gangbanger execute a 9yr old black boy and all the focus is still on the white cop shooting a black guy on pcp wielding a knife 17 times


Surely you're not referencing the incident where less than 30 seconds on the scene, an officer is caught on film showing a guy walking away from the officers before one of them opens fire from about 10 feet away and where the officer keeps shooting for about 15 seconds - after the teen fell to the ground? The incident where another officer testified that he asked that officer to stop firing when he saw that officer reload his weapon? Then the Police Dept totally fabricates a story about the incident that it has to walk back after prosecutors examine the film?


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Alvarez said she was confident her office could prove its case against Van Dyke, and told reporters that other officers on the scene said they didn't see McDonald lunge at police or do anything threatening.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:27 pm    Post subject:

Aussiesuede wrote:
Halflife wrote:
Aussiesuede wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
White male domestic terrorist with long gun and explosive devices takes hostages, kills 3 (including police officer), wounds 9, manages to surrender to police alive, and the outrage is where? ::crickets::


No doubt. Imagine if the shooter was a Black GangBanger wearing a DooRag? It would be an early Christmas in Right-Wing Bubbleshpere. The NRA would be promoting arming Planned Parenthood Clinics whilst A.L.E.C proposed new Stand Your Ground Laws specifically designed for Police allowing them to execute darker skinned people who are found inside clinics, whether they are armed or not, and even if proof was found on their persons that they were at the clinic for a procedure - because you just never know when a black guy might turn out to be a gangbanger bent on forcing an abortion upon his enslaved white girlfriend.

Not really. Just had a black gangbanger execute a 9yr old black boy and all the focus is still on the white cop shooting a black guy on pcp wielding a knife 17 times


Surely you're not referencing the incident where less than 30 seconds on the scene, an officer is caught on film showing a guy walking away from the officers before one of them opens fire from about 10 feet away and where the officer keeps shooting for about 15 seconds - after the teen fell to the ground? The incident where another officer testified that he asked that officer to stop firing when he saw that officer reload his weapon? Then the Police Dept totally fabricates a story about the incident that it has to walk back after prosecutors examine the film?


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Alvarez said she was confident her office could prove its case against Van Dyke, and told reporters that other officers on the scene said they didn't see McDonald lunge at police or do anything threatening.

Cop should go to jail for life. Imo the guy shooting child is equally disturbing and sticking with political nature of thread the 9yr olds death is a missed/ignored opportunity of the black lives matter brigade
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:48 pm    Post subject:

Halflife wrote:
Aussiesuede wrote:
Halflife wrote:
Aussiesuede wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
White male domestic terrorist with long gun and explosive devices takes hostages, kills 3 (including police officer), wounds 9, manages to surrender to police alive, and the outrage is where? ::crickets::


No doubt. Imagine if the shooter was a Black GangBanger wearing a DooRag? It would be an early Christmas in Right-Wing Bubbleshpere. The NRA would be promoting arming Planned Parenthood Clinics whilst A.L.E.C proposed new Stand Your Ground Laws specifically designed for Police allowing them to execute darker skinned people who are found inside clinics, whether they are armed or not, and even if proof was found on their persons that they were at the clinic for a procedure - because you just never know when a black guy might turn out to be a gangbanger bent on forcing an abortion upon his enslaved white girlfriend.

Not really. Just had a black gangbanger execute a 9yr old black boy and all the focus is still on the white cop shooting a black guy on pcp wielding a knife 17 times


Surely you're not referencing the incident where less than 30 seconds on the scene, an officer is caught on film showing a guy walking away from the officers before one of them opens fire from about 10 feet away and where the officer keeps shooting for about 15 seconds - after the teen fell to the ground? The incident where another officer testified that he asked that officer to stop firing when he saw that officer reload his weapon? Then the Police Dept totally fabricates a story about the incident that it has to walk back after prosecutors examine the film?


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Alvarez said she was confident her office could prove its case against Van Dyke, and told reporters that other officers on the scene said they didn't see McDonald lunge at police or do anything threatening.

Cop should go to jail for life. Imo the guy shooting child is equally disturbing and sticking with political nature of thread the 9yr olds death is a missed/ignored opportunity of the black lives matter brigade


Please elaborate?

Gangbangers are criminals, yet we don't have a national problem with gangbangers executing civilians. Gangbangers predominantly restrict their killing to other gangbangers (ie, willing combatants on their repulsive battlefield).

But we do have a national problem with Police killing civilians. Think about how repulsive it is that more unarmed civilians that are not affiliated with gang activity will die at the hands of Police than they will at the hands of a criminal gangbanger. For those of us who aren't part of ganglife, we've less chance of being shot by a gangbanger than we do by a cop. You don't think that's problematic enough to attract attention, or "movements" ?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:51 pm    Post subject:

Aussiesuede wrote:
Halflife wrote:
Aussiesuede wrote:
Halflife wrote:
Aussiesuede wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
White male domestic terrorist with long gun and explosive devices takes hostages, kills 3 (including police officer), wounds 9, manages to surrender to police alive, and the outrage is where? ::crickets::


No doubt. Imagine if the shooter was a Black GangBanger wearing a DooRag? It would be an early Christmas in Right-Wing Bubbleshpere. The NRA would be promoting arming Planned Parenthood Clinics whilst A.L.E.C proposed new Stand Your Ground Laws specifically designed for Police allowing them to execute darker skinned people who are found inside clinics, whether they are armed or not, and even if proof was found on their persons that they were at the clinic for a procedure - because you just never know when a black guy might turn out to be a gangbanger bent on forcing an abortion upon his enslaved white girlfriend.

Not really. Just had a black gangbanger execute a 9yr old black boy and all the focus is still on the white cop shooting a black guy on pcp wielding a knife 17 times


Surely you're not referencing the incident where less than 30 seconds on the scene, an officer is caught on film showing a guy walking away from the officers before one of them opens fire from about 10 feet away and where the officer keeps shooting for about 15 seconds - after the teen fell to the ground? The incident where another officer testified that he asked that officer to stop firing when he saw that officer reload his weapon? Then the Police Dept totally fabricates a story about the incident that it has to walk back after prosecutors examine the film?


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Alvarez said she was confident her office could prove its case against Van Dyke, and told reporters that other officers on the scene said they didn't see McDonald lunge at police or do anything threatening.

Cop should go to jail for life. Imo the guy shooting child is equally disturbing and sticking with political nature of thread the 9yr olds death is a missed/ignored opportunity of the black lives matter brigade


Please elaborate?

Gangbangers are criminals, yet we don't have a national problem with gangbangers executing civilians. Gangbangers predominantly restrict their killing to other gangbangers (ie, willing combatants on their repulsive battlefield).

But we do have a national problem with Police killing civilians. Think about how repulsive it is that more unarmed civilians that are not affiliated with gang activity will die at the hands of Police than they will at the hands of a criminal gangbanger. For those of us who aren't part of ganglife, we've less chance of being shot by a gangbanger than we do by a cop. You don't think that's problematic enough to attract attention, or "movements" ?


Who kills more blacks than blacks? Yet no one marches
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:54 pm    Post subject:

Halflife wrote:
Aussiesuede wrote:
Halflife wrote:
Aussiesuede wrote:
Halflife wrote:
Aussiesuede wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
White male domestic terrorist with long gun and explosive devices takes hostages, kills 3 (including police officer), wounds 9, manages to surrender to police alive, and the outrage is where? ::crickets::


No doubt. Imagine if the shooter was a Black GangBanger wearing a DooRag? It would be an early Christmas in Right-Wing Bubbleshpere. The NRA would be promoting arming Planned Parenthood Clinics whilst A.L.E.C proposed new Stand Your Ground Laws specifically designed for Police allowing them to execute darker skinned people who are found inside clinics, whether they are armed or not, and even if proof was found on their persons that they were at the clinic for a procedure - because you just never know when a black guy might turn out to be a gangbanger bent on forcing an abortion upon his enslaved white girlfriend.

Not really. Just had a black gangbanger execute a 9yr old black boy and all the focus is still on the white cop shooting a black guy on pcp wielding a knife 17 times


Surely you're not referencing the incident where less than 30 seconds on the scene, an officer is caught on film showing a guy walking away from the officers before one of them opens fire from about 10 feet away and where the officer keeps shooting for about 15 seconds - after the teen fell to the ground? The incident where another officer testified that he asked that officer to stop firing when he saw that officer reload his weapon? Then the Police Dept totally fabricates a story about the incident that it has to walk back after prosecutors examine the film?


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Alvarez said she was confident her office could prove its case against Van Dyke, and told reporters that other officers on the scene said they didn't see McDonald lunge at police or do anything threatening.

Cop should go to jail for life. Imo the guy shooting child is equally disturbing and sticking with political nature of thread the 9yr olds death is a missed/ignored opportunity of the black lives matter brigade


Please elaborate?

Gangbangers are criminals, yet we don't have a national problem with gangbangers executing civilians. Gangbangers predominantly restrict their killing to other gangbangers (ie, willing combatants on their repulsive battlefield).

But we do have a national problem with Police killing civilians. Think about how repulsive it is that more unarmed civilians that are not affiliated with gang activity will die at the hands of Police than they will at the hands of a criminal gangbanger. For those of us who aren't part of ganglife, we've less chance of being shot by a gangbanger than we do by a cop. You don't think that's problematic enough to attract attention, or "movements" ?


Who kills more blacks than blacks? Yet no one marches




Who kills more whites than other whites?



Why would you have protests when criminals act like criminals? Protests are usually against Supposed NON-CRIMINALS committing crimes like killing and then getting away with the crime without commensurate punishment.

Do we have a national problem of Blacks getting away with killing other Blacks without prosecution? Or Whites killing other Whites without prosecution?

Do we have a national problem of Cops killing civilians without prosecution?

Ahhh...THAT would be the problem.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:07 pm    Post subject:

Aussiesuede wrote:
Halflife wrote:
Aussiesuede wrote:
Halflife wrote:
Aussiesuede wrote:
Halflife wrote:
Aussiesuede wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
White male domestic terrorist with long gun and explosive devices takes hostages, kills 3 (including police officer), wounds 9, manages to surrender to police alive, and the outrage is where? ::crickets::


No doubt. Imagine if the shooter was a Black GangBanger wearing a DooRag? It would be an early Christmas in Right-Wing Bubbleshpere. The NRA would be promoting arming Planned Parenthood Clinics whilst A.L.E.C proposed new Stand Your Ground Laws specifically designed for Police allowing them to execute darker skinned people who are found inside clinics, whether they are armed or not, and even if proof was found on their persons that they were at the clinic for a procedure - because you just never know when a black guy might turn out to be a gangbanger bent on forcing an abortion upon his enslaved white girlfriend.

Not really. Just had a black gangbanger execute a 9yr old black boy and all the focus is still on the white cop shooting a black guy on pcp wielding a knife 17 times


Surely you're not referencing the incident where less than 30 seconds on the scene, an officer is caught on film showing a guy walking away from the officers before one of them opens fire from about 10 feet away and where the officer keeps shooting for about 15 seconds - after the teen fell to the ground? The incident where another officer testified that he asked that officer to stop firing when he saw that officer reload his weapon? Then the Police Dept totally fabricates a story about the incident that it has to walk back after prosecutors examine the film?


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Alvarez said she was confident her office could prove its case against Van Dyke, and told reporters that other officers on the scene said they didn't see McDonald lunge at police or do anything threatening.

Cop should go to jail for life. Imo the guy shooting child is equally disturbing and sticking with political nature of thread the 9yr olds death is a missed/ignored opportunity of the black lives matter brigade


Please elaborate?

Gangbangers are criminals, yet we don't have a national problem with gangbangers executing civilians. Gangbangers predominantly restrict their killing to other gangbangers (ie, willing combatants on their repulsive battlefield).

But we do have a national problem with Police killing civilians. Think about how repulsive it is that more unarmed civilians that are not affiliated with gang activity will die at the hands of Police than they will at the hands of a criminal gangbanger. For those of us who aren't part of ganglife, we've less chance of being shot by a gangbanger than we do by a cop. You don't think that's problematic enough to attract attention, or "movements" ?


Who kills more blacks than blacks? Yet no one marches




Who kills more whites than other whites?



Why would you have protests when criminals act like criminals? Protests are usually against Supposed NON-CRIMINALS committing crimes like killing.


wheres the energy period inside their community? There is none. The Laquan killing is tragic and unjustified but let be honest. He was strung out on pcp, wielding a knife (though small). Slashing tires. Belligerently walking down the street. I still don't know what happened to the taser or billyclub but let's stop acting like all of these killings are happening to people just chillin obeying the rules. Look at the St. Louis killing. Did he deserve to die? No, but evidence proved to let cops off and all of the witnesses lied or misremembered.

If the Colorado shooter was black would it have made a difference media wise? No. Planned parenthood is a political rallying cry on both sides.
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wheres the energy period inside their community? There is none. The Laquan killing is tragic and unjustified but let be honest. He was strung out on pcp, wielding a knife (though small). Slashing tires. Belligerently walking down the street. I still don't know what happened to the taser or billyclub but let's stop acting like all of these killings are happening to people just chillin obeying the rules. Look at the St. Louis killing. Did he deserve to die? No, but evidence proved to let cops off and all of the witnesses lied or misremembered.

If the Colorado shooter was black would it have made a difference media wise? No. Planned parenthood is a political rallying cry on both sides.


I don't know of any particular demographic in this country that rallies around the issue of thier children being killed with any particular vigor except for perhaps MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving)

I don't have an answer to why that is. Even though more white mothers than any other demographic lose a child to violence, I don't know why they don't organize like MADD? I do know their are some inner city organizations of predominantly minority mothers who have organised, but there is no clear reason why White, Black, Hispanis, or Asian mothers haven't organised in the manner of MADD.

If the Colorado shooter was a Middle Eastern Muslim, then the media would have had an even bigger field day, suddenly labeling it a 'Terrorist' incident. That's what the infotainment media does - sensationalises.

And finally, there is never an adequate excuse for Police to execute a citizen that is not presenting a dire threat. A death sentence is overkill punishment for commuting the act of being an arsehole - hence it get's people a bit unhinged.
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wheres the energy period inside their community? There is none. The Laquan killing is tragic and unjustified but let be honest. He was strung out on pcp, wielding a knife (though small). Slashing tires. Belligerently walking down the street. I still don't know what happened to the taser or billyclub but let's stop acting like all of these killings are happening to people just chillin obeying the rules. Look at the St. Louis killing. Did he deserve to die? No, but evidence proved to let cops off and all of the witnesses lied or misremembered.

If the Colorado shooter was black would it have made a difference media wise? No. Planned parenthood is a political rallying cry on both sides.


I don't know of any particular demographic in this country that rallies around the issue of thier children being killed with any particular vigor except for perhaps MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving)

I don't have an answer to why that is. Even though more white mothers than any other demographic lose a child to violence, I don't know why they don't organize like MADD? I do know their are some inner city organizations of predominantly minority mothers who have organised, but there is no clear reason why White, Black, Hispanis, or Asian mothers haven't organised in the manner of MADD.

If the Colorado shooter was a Middle Eastern Muslim, then the media would have had an even bigger field day, suddenly labeling it a 'Terrorist' incident. That's what the infotainment media does - sensationalises.

And finally, there is never an adequate excuse for Police to execute a citizen that is not presenting a dire threat. A death sentence is overkill punishment for commuting the act of being an arsehole - hence it get's people a bit unhinged.
if the Colorado shooter was Muslim it more than likely would have been a radical jihadist which ultimately changes the narrative even though both would be terrorist attacks. I can't but a certain wing of the American population probably look at Colorado shooter as being able to rationalize his hideous actions.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:03 am    Post subject:

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White male domestic terrorist with long gun and explosive devices takes hostages, kills 3 (including police officer), wounds 9, manages to surrender to police alive, and the outrage is where? ::crickets::


In the past week we've had two incidents that could be considered white male domestic terrorism that didn't garner outrage this one and the shooting at the BLM protest in Minnesota.

But instead of condemning these actions some people are actually praising what this guy did.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelzarrell/some-pro-life-supporters-cheered-planned-parenthood-shooting#.sb2k4RAP

https://mobile.twitter.com/KeeganNYC/status/670443316803145728
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Aussiesuede wrote:
Halflife wrote:
Aussiesuede wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
White male domestic terrorist with long gun and explosive devices takes hostages, kills 3 (including police officer), wounds 9, manages to surrender to police alive, and the outrage is where? ::crickets::


No doubt. Imagine if the shooter was a Black GangBanger wearing a DooRag? It would be an early Christmas in Right-Wing Bubbleshpere. The NRA would be promoting arming Planned Parenthood Clinics whilst A.L.E.C proposed new Stand Your Ground Laws specifically designed for Police allowing them to execute darker skinned people who are found inside clinics, whether they are armed or not, and even if proof was found on their persons that they were at the clinic for a procedure - because you just never know when a black guy might turn out to be a gangbanger bent on forcing an abortion upon his enslaved white girlfriend.

Not really. Just had a black gangbanger execute a 9yr old black boy and all the focus is still on the white cop shooting a black guy on pcp wielding a knife 17 times


Surely you're not referencing the incident where less than 30 seconds on the scene, an officer is caught on film showing a guy walking away from the officers before one of them opens fire from about 10 feet away and where the officer keeps shooting for about 15 seconds - after the teen fell to the ground? The incident where another officer testified that he asked that officer to stop firing when he saw that officer reload his weapon? Then the Police Dept totally fabricates a story about the incident that it has to walk back after prosecutors examine the film?


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Alvarez said she was confident her office could prove its case against Van Dyke, and told reporters that other officers on the scene said they didn't see McDonald lunge at police or do anything threatening.


You forgot the part where said police force also deleted 86 minutes of security camera footage that covered the shooting.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:48 am    Post subject:

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White male domestic terrorist with long gun and explosive devices takes hostages, kills 3 (including police officer), wounds 9, manages to surrender to police alive, and the outrage is where? ::crickets::


Another mass shooting here in the US.

Another "Enough is enough" speech by President Obama.

I voted for him twice and would do so again if it were an option. But I'm sick of the hollow condemnations of these shooting that come with no attempts to do anything about them.

The Right has been saying for years now that Obama is coming for their guns. Time to prove them right Mr. Obama, or save us the speeches.


What could he do? Is there some sort of executive order he could issue?
Kinda seems like a problem only the legislative branch could solve.


It's certainly not something he can do on his own.

My point is that to keep telling the American people that we can't allow these kinds of things to happen if he is not going to take assertive action in his capacity as President to start things in that direction rings empty.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:17 pm    Post subject:

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Halflife wrote:
Aussiesuede wrote:
Halflife wrote:
Aussiesuede wrote:
Halflife wrote:
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White male domestic terrorist with long gun and explosive devices takes hostages, kills 3 (including police officer), wounds 9, manages to surrender to police alive, and the outrage is where? ::crickets::


No doubt. Imagine if the shooter was a Black GangBanger wearing a DooRag? It would be an early Christmas in Right-Wing Bubbleshpere. The NRA would be promoting arming Planned Parenthood Clinics whilst A.L.E.C proposed new Stand Your Ground Laws specifically designed for Police allowing them to execute darker skinned people who are found inside clinics, whether they are armed or not, and even if proof was found on their persons that they were at the clinic for a procedure - because you just never know when a black guy might turn out to be a gangbanger bent on forcing an abortion upon his enslaved white girlfriend.

Not really. Just had a black gangbanger execute a 9yr old black boy and all the focus is still on the white cop shooting a black guy on pcp wielding a knife 17 times


Surely you're not referencing the incident where less than 30 seconds on the scene, an officer is caught on film showing a guy walking away from the officers before one of them opens fire from about 10 feet away and where the officer keeps shooting for about 15 seconds - after the teen fell to the ground? The incident where another officer testified that he asked that officer to stop firing when he saw that officer reload his weapon? Then the Police Dept totally fabricates a story about the incident that it has to walk back after prosecutors examine the film?


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Alvarez said she was confident her office could prove its case against Van Dyke, and told reporters that other officers on the scene said they didn't see McDonald lunge at police or do anything threatening.

Cop should go to jail for life. Imo the guy shooting child is equally disturbing and sticking with political nature of thread the 9yr olds death is a missed/ignored opportunity of the black lives matter brigade


Please elaborate?

Gangbangers are criminals, yet we don't have a national problem with gangbangers executing civilians. Gangbangers predominantly restrict their killing to other gangbangers (ie, willing combatants on their repulsive battlefield).

But we do have a national problem with Police killing civilians. Think about how repulsive it is that more unarmed civilians that are not affiliated with gang activity will die at the hands of Police than they will at the hands of a criminal gangbanger. For those of us who aren't part of ganglife, we've less chance of being shot by a gangbanger than we do by a cop. You don't think that's problematic enough to attract attention, or "movements" ?


Who kills more blacks than blacks? Yet no one marches




Who kills more whites than other whites?



Why would you have protests when criminals act like criminals? Protests are usually against Supposed NON-CRIMINALS committing crimes like killing and then getting away with the crime without commensurate punishment.

Do we have a national problem of Blacks getting away with killing other Blacks without prosecution? Or Whites killing other Whites without prosecution?

Do we have a national problem of Cops killing civilians without prosecution?

Ahhh...THAT would be the problem.


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white Americans are just as likely to be killed by other whites. According to Justice Department statistics (pdf), 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites.


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The truth? As the largest racial group, whites commit the majority of crimes in America. In particular, whites are responsible for the vast majority of violent crimes. With respect to aggravated assault, whites led blacks 2-1 in arrests; in forcible-rape cases, whites led all racial and ethnic groups by more than 2-1. And in larceny theft, whites led blacks, again, more than 2-1.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:51 pm    Post subject:

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But we do have a national problem with Police killing civilians. Think about how repulsive it is that more unarmed civilians that are not affiliated with gang activity will die at the hands of Police than they will at the hands of a criminal gangbanger. For those of us who aren't part of ganglife, we've less chance of being shot by a gangbanger than we do by a cop. You don't think that's problematic enough to attract attention, or "movements" ?


Some of the statistical arguments on this subject are a little weird. More unarmed civilians will be killed by police officers than by zombie attacks, too. What's your point? For that matter, why do you think gangbangers avoid shooting civilians? Hint: It isn't a matter of fair play and good sportsmanship.

I have a lot of concerns about the lack of accountability of police officers, and I also have concerns that we have developed a police culture that emphasizes action over de-escalation. However, despite all of the publicity surrounding the recent shootings, I've seen no evidence that we have an epidemic of police shootings.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:58 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
kikanga wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
White male domestic terrorist with long gun and explosive devices takes hostages, kills 3 (including police officer), wounds 9, manages to surrender to police alive, and the outrage is where? ::crickets::


Another mass shooting here in the US.

Another "Enough is enough" speech by President Obama.

I voted for him twice and would do so again if it were an option. But I'm sick of the hollow condemnations of these shooting that come with no attempts to do anything about them.

The Right has been saying for years now that Obama is coming for their guns. Time to prove them right Mr. Obama, or save us the speeches.


What could he do? Is there some sort of executive order he could issue?
Kinda seems like a problem only the legislative branch could solve.


It's certainly not something he can do on his own.

My point is that to keep telling the American people that we can't allow these kinds of things to happen if he is not going to take assertive action in his capacity as President to start things in that direction rings empty.


Republicanss have the majority in the House of Representatives 247 to 188. And a 54 to 46 majority in the Senate.

He said in his speech there needs to be stricter laws so dangerous men can't get a weapon and kill innocent civilians.
I don't know what more he can do. Can you give me an example of the "assertive action" you're thinking of? Is it much different than what he's doing now?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:58 am    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
kikanga wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
White male domestic terrorist with long gun and explosive devices takes hostages, kills 3 (including police officer), wounds 9, manages to surrender to police alive, and the outrage is where? ::crickets::


Another mass shooting here in the US.

Another "Enough is enough" speech by President Obama.

I voted for him twice and would do so again if it were an option. But I'm sick of the hollow condemnations of these shooting that come with no attempts to do anything about them.

The Right has been saying for years now that Obama is coming for their guns. Time to prove them right Mr. Obama, or save us the speeches.


What could he do? Is there some sort of executive order he could issue?
Kinda seems like a problem only the legislative branch could solve.


It's certainly not something he can do on his own.

My point is that to keep telling the American people that we can't allow these kinds of things to happen if he is not going to take assertive action in his capacity as President to start things in that direction rings empty.


The problem is that the American people don't care about it that much. Sure, we are outraged for a few days, offer the obligatory prayers and thoughts, and then we move on. Just like we do with many important issues that affect society in profound ways. We move on. And it's because we are not capable of having a rational conversation about this, mostly due to the efforts by the political class in dividing us on this issue.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:03 am    Post subject:

I probably shouldn't say this (and I am in no way wanting this to happen or advocating it at all), but it will probably take a Republican politician or their family member getting shot for the R's in congress move to do something. Even after Reagan was shot, it took years to get something done. And it does have to be the R's because they are in control and have the power to block votes on bills that D's have presented or could present.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:15 am    Post subject:

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I probably shouldn't say this (and I am in no way wanting this to happen or advocating it at all), but it will probably take a Republican politician or their family member getting shot for the R's in congress move to do something. Even after Reagan was shot, it took years to get something done. And it does have to be the R's because they are in control and have the power to block votes on bills that D's have presented or could present.


Never going to happen. They know that too much of their voting base is against meaningful gun regulation. They don't have the courage to stand up to that.
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