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DangeRuss
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My ideal offseason starts with getting the number 1 pick. Then we trade Randle, a.brown, and the 32nd pick for Noel. The free agent acquisitions would be batum, Barnes, Stephenson, and lance Thomas. Then the roster would look something like this.
Russell/ clarkson
Batum/Stephenson
H.barnes/ L.thomas
Simmons/ nance
Noel/ black
Boom, young team with a good mix of vets that could compete and grow. Nice spacing and talent, and most importantly, defense..Critiques? Thoughts? If this happened, or 50% of it happened, I'd be a happy guy. |
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If they are trading Noel and keeping Okafor, then they would probably have little interest in Randle.
Wings and PG are the positions they need to improve more than PF and Center. |
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Why would we trade Randle for an inferior player?
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DangeRuss
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| Bard207 wrote: | If they are trading Noel and keeping Okafor, then they would probably have little interest in Randle.
Wings and PG are the positions they need to improve more than PF and Center. |
Well I just figured since they have been playing Noel out of position at the pf spot a lot this year |
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DangeRuss
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| Lakers2015 wrote: | | Why would we trade Randle for an inferior player? |
Well because I don't think Noel is inferior to Randle, I think he could be a defensive beast, and he fits my dream team better considering I had us getting the number 1 pick in my dream scenario |
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Bard207
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| DangeRuss wrote: | | Bard207 wrote: | If they are trading Noel and keeping Okafor, then they would probably have little interest in Randle.
Wings and PG are the positions they need to improve more than PF and Center. |
Well I just figured since they have been playing Noel out of position at the pf spot a lot this year |
Lately, they have had Noel playing closer to the basket and Okafor further away because as you mentioned PF is not the position for Noel.
Philly has been encouraging Okafor to increase his shooting range to improve the spacing for Noel near the basket and he made a three pointer in the Rising Stars game on Friday night. |
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lewis
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| DangeRuss wrote: | | Bard207 wrote: | If they are trading Noel and keeping Okafor, then they would probably have little interest in Randle.
Wings and PG are the positions they need to improve more than PF and Center. |
Well I just figured since they have been playing Noel out of position at the pf spot a lot this year |
They have J. Grant which complements Okafor very well and Embiid may playsome as well next year. They play Noel at PF so he is not sent to the bench .. They may want Clarkson, but not Randle. |
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lewis
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| DangeRuss wrote: | | Lakers2015 wrote: | | Why would we trade Randle for an inferior player? |
Well because I don't think Noel is inferior to Randle, I think he could be a defensive beast, and he fits my dream team better considering I had us getting the number 1 pick in my dream scenario |
Noel is not the ideal fit next to Simmons, we will have the same problems as PHI have this year, but agreed he is not an inferior player to Randle in any way, defense matters as well.. especially elite defense in pick and roll scenarios.
M. Turner may be the ideal fit next to Simmons  since we are talking dream scenarios |
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He is definitely an inferior player in many ways
And don't give me that "defense also matters" line. If you've been watching the lakers the last dozen games or so you'll have noticed that Randle is steadily becoming a very solid defender
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| I rather have Randle then Noel. If the 76ers trade any of their bigs it'll be Okafor. Noel fits Dantoni system. |
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lewis
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| Chronicle wrote: | He is definitely an inferior player in many ways
And don't give me that "defense also matters" line. If you've been watching the lakers the last dozen games or so you'll have noticed that Randle is steadily becoming a very solid defender |
I have watched all Lakers games and at least 20 PHI games this season. Did you saw Noel play or are just looking at box scores? |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | cKPayasoLoco wrote: | | didnt an all star pg want to come to LA for cheap a couple years back but this FO blew it??? |
Gary Payton? |
Gary Lance Payton Jr. |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:49 am Post subject: |
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| I think Noel's a considerably better player than Randle at this point. I'm not sure why Philly would do that trade. |
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| lewis wrote: | | Chronicle wrote: | He is definitely an inferior player in many ways
And don't give me that "defense also matters" line. If you've been watching the lakers the last dozen games or so you'll have noticed that Randle is steadily becoming a very solid defender |
I have watched all Lakers games and at least 20 PHI games this season. Did you saw Noel play or are just looking at box scores? |
Yeah. Noel is a defensive stud. I love Randle but if it was straight up for Noel I would seriously consider it. I just think Philly really values him.
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| DangeRuss wrote: | My ideal offseason starts with getting the number 1 pick. Then we trade Randle, a.brown, and the 32nd pick for Noel. The free agent acquisitions would be batum, Barnes, Stephenson, and lance Thomas. Then the roster would look something like this.
Russell/ clarkson
Batum/Stephenson
H.barnes/ L.thomas
Simmons/ nance
Noel/ black
Boom, young team with a good mix of vets that could compete and grow. Nice spacing and talent, and most importantly, defense..Critiques? Thoughts? If this happened, or 50% of it happened, I'd be a happy guy. |
Hey man,
Nice post and welcome to the board.
It's a well thought out roster and your trade is realistic.
I agree, that IF we are lucky enough to keep the pick and end up with Simmons, and IF we feel he is a future star and see him primarily as an NBA PF, then gauging Randle's value would make some sense.
You always overpay for Centers, so drafting one or trading for one who is cost controlled like Noel or WCS would allow us to man that vital position at a very reasonable cost, freeing up our FA dollars for other positions of need (like wings in our case).
Not sure The Sixers would do your trade as Noel has higher value than Randle right now, but it is certainly possible, though the way Randle is playing lately could change that.
Barnes may to tough to get unless the W's pursue KD, but I agree, he is exactly the kind of player we need.
In your scenario, I would like to punt some cap space into 2017 and be able to at least have the option of signing Westbrook, and that's one of the reasons that I like the idea of acquiring the cost controlled 5 (like Noel or WCS), as opposed to signing a guy like Whiteside at 21 mil this year.
I think in your scenario we could still have a max slot in 2017 providing we didn't overpay your backups, Stevenson and Thomas, so nice job man.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:42 am Post subject: |
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I would rather see how simmons plays at center and randle at pf before trading for noel.
Can u imagine all 5 players rebounding the ball and pushing it on O?
Simmons shot wont matter cause he will be playing center |
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| Dave20 wrote: | | I rather have Randle then Noel. If the 76ers trade any of their bigs it'll be Okafor. Noel fits Dantoni system. |
Offcourse u would, cause u r emotionally involved in randle and clarkson |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | I would rather see how simmons plays at center and randle at pf before trading for noel.
Can u imagine all 5 players rebounding the ball and pushing it on O?
Simmons shot wont matter cause he will be playing center |
That we be nice. But you can't run that line up full time, just too much wear/tear on a guy like Simmons. There's a reason the Warriors run their Death lineup at high leverage points instead of trotting Dray Green out for 40 mpg at the center spot.
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| Bard207 wrote: | If they are trading Noel and keeping Okafor, then they would probably have little interest in Randle.
Wings and PG are the positions they need to improve more than PF and Center. |
Yeah, Clarkson or DLO make more sense for Philly.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Bard207 wrote: | If they are trading Noel and keeping Okafor, then they would probably have little interest in Randle.
Wings and PG are the positions they need to improve more than PF and Center. |
Yeah, Clarkson or DLO make more sense for Philly. |
No way I trade DLO for Noel. JC isn't enough for Philly.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Bard207 wrote: | If they are trading Noel and keeping Okafor, then they would probably have little interest in Randle.
Wings and PG are the positions they need to improve more than PF and Center. |
Yeah, Clarkson or DLO make more sense for Philly. |
No way I trade DLO for Noel. JC isn't enough for Philly. |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Bard207 wrote: | If they are trading Noel and keeping Okafor, then they would probably have little interest in Randle.
Wings and PG are the positions they need to improve more than PF and Center. |
Yeah, Clarkson or DLO make more sense for Philly. |
No way I trade DLO for Noel. JC isn't enough for Philly. |
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I don't think JC/#32 is enough for Noel either.
Speaking with my 76ers friends they love Noel a lot, especially since Oak isn't much of a defensive anchor.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Bard207 wrote: | If they are trading Noel and keeping Okafor, then they would probably have little interest in Randle.
Wings and PG are the positions they need to improve more than PF and Center. |
Yeah, Clarkson or DLO make more sense for Philly. |
No way I trade DLO for Noel. JC isn't enough for Philly. |
Me either on Dlo. He shows a ton of potential. I love his game more and more. Very controlled.
Clarkson is our bes asset for trade and wit guys like Derozen available this summer, I would definitely be open to trading Clarkson. |
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| Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:59 am Post subject: |
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I'd prefer to trade the pick then Clarkson before DLO or Randle.
Although if you turn two of those into PG or Jimmy Butler you have to do it. |
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| Roon wrote: | I'd prefer to trade the pick then Clarkson before DLO or Randle.
Although if you turn two of those into PG or Jimmy Butler you have to do it. |
Top 3 pick >>>>>>>>>> clarkson
Its not wven a question |
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