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KindCrippler2000
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| Vancouver Fan wrote: | | Mindripper2000 wrote: | How about Russell finding out first and breaking the news to him?  |
Not surprising they were celebrating. Doing their money dance. |
As much as Russell and Clarkson benefit from it, Ingram's a lucky SOB. Now he can just focus on lifting and not have to deal with those gulag style training camps. |
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yinoma2001
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| Mindripper2000 wrote: | | Vancouver Fan wrote: | | Mindripper2000 wrote: | | How about Russell finding out first and breaking the news to him? |
Not surprising they were celebrating. Doing their money dance. |
As much as Russell and Clarkson benefit from it, Ingram's a lucky SOB. Now he can just focus on lifting and not have to deal with those gulag style training camps. |
No doubt. Byron would have had a field day with his skinny ass.
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oldschool32
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Love hearing this stuff about JC. As close to 40% 3fg has been my goal for him. If he can do that, and improve his defense to at least being an average to slightly above average defender, the Lakers could be set at the guard positions for a while.
I'm hoping Luke and the staff will be doing a lot of film work with JC to help him defensively. He can make major strides if he just quits biting on fakes. It's like he hasn't eaten in a month, because he bites on every fake they give him.
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oldschool32
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Mindripper2000 wrote: | | Vancouver Fan wrote: | | Mindripper2000 wrote: | | How about Russell finding out first and breaking the news to him? |
Not surprising they were celebrating. Doing their money dance. |
As much as Russell and Clarkson benefit from it, Ingram's a lucky SOB. Now he can just focus on lifting and not have to deal with those gulag style training camps. |
No doubt. Byron would have had a field day with his skinny ass. |
Training camp had to be the first thought that ran across those guy's minds. Glad Byron doesn't get to play games with Ingram/Simmons, and "have fun" at the rooks expense. These "rooks" getting better sooner than later, will help a coach keep his job.
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Outspoken
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Vancouver Fan wrote: | Love this,
| Quote: | | "He got better last year, but we want to see him get above 40 percent from three this year," Hanlen said. "We don’t think he got enough assists. We thought he was sped up at times, and we thought he was out of control at other times. So just being able to play at a controlled pace, make better decisions, make more plays and create for himself and others." |
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Better get the heck out of here Hanlen before Outspoken says you are wrong. |
what do you mean? that's a fair analysts - I agree with him. |
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Rivershow
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| I hope they are also working on his defense. He needs to be at least an average defender. |
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DancingBarry
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Fastbreak32 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | So much for the "his ego is too big to come off the bench" argument. |
Exactly. The kid is a hard worker and we are lucky to have him. I know that wasn't an all encompassing interview, but it bothers that he is talking about defense but not doing anything else about it. |
Hopefully, he is working on the D, and it just wasn't brought up. |
Sounded like it was part of his morning workout every day.
Good read. |
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Fastbreak32
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2016 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| DancingBarry wrote: | | Fastbreak32 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | So much for the "his ego is too big to come off the bench" argument. |
Exactly. The kid is a hard worker and we are lucky to have him. I know that wasn't an all encompassing interview, but it bothers that he is talking about defense but not doing anything else about it. |
Hopefully, he is working on the D, and it just wasn't brought up. |
Sounded like it was part of his morning workout every day.
Good read. |
Good. Good.
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Why is he answering interviews when he should be in the gym learning to man up !
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nash
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| Outspoken wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Vancouver Fan wrote: | Love this,
| Quote: | | "He got better last year, but we want to see him get above 40 percent from three this year," Hanlen said. "We don’t think he got enough assists. We thought he was sped up at times, and we thought he was out of control at other times. So just being able to play at a controlled pace, make better decisions, make more plays and create for himself and others." |
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Better get the heck out of here Hanlen before Outspoken says you are wrong. |
what do you mean? that's a fair analysts - I agree with him. |
Clarkson has the athleticism to break down a defense creating for others. Losing the starting PG job from day one and probably being told to adapt to the SG spot had a negative effect on his mindset and it seems like he was in attack mode too often on the small window he had the ball on his hands. |
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nash
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| Rivershow wrote: | | I hope they are also working on his defense. He needs to be at least an average defender. |
Agreed.
He has a pretty good offensive package with lesser holes to improve, it's more about polishing here, but he lacks almost everything on the defensive end.
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:26 am Post subject: |
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| nash wrote: | | Outspoken wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Vancouver Fan wrote: | Love this,
| Quote: | | "He got better last year, but we want to see him get above 40 percent from three this year," Hanlen said. "We don’t think he got enough assists. We thought he was sped up at times, and we thought he was out of control at other times. So just being able to play at a controlled pace, make better decisions, make more plays and create for himself and others." |
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Better get the heck out of here Hanlen before Outspoken says you are wrong. |
what do you mean? that's a fair analysts - I agree with him. |
Clarkson has the athleticism to break down a defense creating for others. Losing the starting PG job from day one and probably being told to adapt to the SG spot had a negative effect on his mindset and it seems like he was in attack mode too often on the small window he had the ball on his hands. |
I don't think it had a "negative effect on his mindset." If anything, of the young crew, he was the most consistent in terms of effort and attitude. He's been a great trooper in that sense, and hearing that he's amenable to a 6th man role if a better option joins the Lakers also shows that.
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| Quote: | There were 56 players who attempted at least 80 pull-up threes last season. Clarkson made 35.2 percent of his 108 tries.
His volume was lower on a per-game average, but, for the optimistic, this technically made him more accurate than Damian Lillard, Chris Paul and James Harden while holding his own compared to Klay Thompson and Bradley Beal. |
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2643174-jordan-clarkson-is-ready-for-the-biggest-offseason-of-his-life |
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Dave20
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:10 am Post subject: |
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| pio2u wrote: | | Quote: | There were 56 players who attempted at least 80 pull-up threes last season. Clarkson made 35.2 percent of his 108 tries.
His volume was lower on a per-game average, but, for the optimistic, this technically made him more accurate than Damian Lillard, Chris Paul and James Harden while holding his own compared to Klay Thompson and Bradley Beal. |
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2643174-jordan-clarkson-is-ready-for-the-biggest-offseason-of-his-life |
Not having the ball with the additional ball handlers changed his mindset. Hopefully, he can get more opportunities like he did his rookie year. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:12 am Post subject: |
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| pio2u wrote: | | Quote: | There were 56 players who attempted at least 80 pull-up threes last season. Clarkson made 35.2 percent of his 108 tries.
His volume was lower on a per-game average, but, for the optimistic, this technically made him more accurate than Damian Lillard, Chris Paul and James Harden while holding his own compared to Klay Thompson and Bradley Beal. |
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2643174-jordan-clarkson-is-ready-for-the-biggest-offseason-of-his-life |
Holding his own to Klay Thompson!!! Love it!!!
Not to play Debbie downer but I still have him around Jamal Crawford level currently but I do feel he's gonna prove me wrong soon, very soon |
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pio2u
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:15 am Post subject: |
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| governator wrote: | | pio2u wrote: | | Quote: | There were 56 players who attempted at least 80 pull-up threes last season. Clarkson made 35.2 percent of his 108 tries.
His volume was lower on a per-game average, but, for the optimistic, this technically made him more accurate than Damian Lillard, Chris Paul and James Harden while holding his own compared to Klay Thompson and Bradley Beal. |
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2643174-jordan-clarkson-is-ready-for-the-biggest-offseason-of-his-life |
Holding his own to Klay Thompson!!! Love it!!!
Not to play Debbie downer but I still have him around Jamal Crawford level currently but I do feel he's gonna prove me wrong soon, very soon |
At this point Jamal Crawford level is nothing to be ashamed of as they both are good ballers and Clarkson is younger. |
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Fastbreak32
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| Dave20 wrote: | | pio2u wrote: | | Quote: | There were 56 players who attempted at least 80 pull-up threes last season. Clarkson made 35.2 percent of his 108 tries.
His volume was lower on a per-game average, but, for the optimistic, this technically made him more accurate than Damian Lillard, Chris Paul and James Harden while holding his own compared to Klay Thompson and Bradley Beal. |
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2643174-jordan-clarkson-is-ready-for-the-biggest-offseason-of-his-life |
Not having the ball with the additional ball handlers changed his mindset. Hopefully, he can get more opportunities like he did his rookie year. |
I know you think Clarkson having the ball less than he did his rookie year was a negative, but playing off ball was good for his shooting. He benefited from the occasional weakside pass, which allowed him to square up and release.
In Luke's offense, he should get enough touches on offense, but not necessarily "handle" the ball as much as he did his rookie year.
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Dave20
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| Playing off the ball was beneficial for him, but he's at his best with the ball breaking down the defense in P&R. |
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Jordan Clarkson working hard on improving his defense! 
| Quote: | | Jordan Clarkson is really getting out there and being active this offseason. The impending restricted free agent from the Los Angeles Lakers has been vocal in the press about wanting to stay in Los Angeles, about his personal life, and has simply been visible in his activities. |
http://lakeshowlife.com/2016/05/31/jordan-clarkson-blocks-kid-china-video/ |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| pio2u wrote: | Jordan Clarkson working hard on improving his defense!
| Quote: | | Jordan Clarkson is really getting out there and being active this offseason. The impending restricted free agent from the Los Angeles Lakers has been vocal in the press about wanting to stay in Los Angeles, about his personal life, and has simply been visible in his activities. |
http://lakeshowlife.com/2016/05/31/jordan-clarkson-blocks-kid-china-video/ |
Clarkson is a poor man's Bill Russell |
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Fastbreak32
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:41 am Post subject: |
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| Dave20 wrote: | | Playing off the ball was beneficial for him, but he's at his best with the ball breaking down the defense in P&R. |
I'd say he's good at both, and should have opportunity to do both.
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pio2u
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| Fastbreak32 wrote: | | Dave20 wrote: | | Playing off the ball was beneficial for him, but he's at his best with the ball breaking down the defense in P&R. |
I'd say he's good at both, and should have opportunity to do both. |
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nash
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | nash wrote: | | Outspoken wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Vancouver Fan wrote: | Love this,
| Quote: | | "He got better last year, but we want to see him get above 40 percent from three this year," Hanlen said. "We don’t think he got enough assists. We thought he was sped up at times, and we thought he was out of control at other times. So just being able to play at a controlled pace, make better decisions, make more plays and create for himself and others." |
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Better get the heck out of here Hanlen before Outspoken says you are wrong. |
what do you mean? that's a fair analysts - I agree with him. |
Clarkson has the athleticism to break down a defense creating for others. Losing the starting PG job from day one and probably being told to adapt to the SG spot had a negative effect on his mindset and it seems like he was in attack mode too often on the small window he had the ball on his hands. |
I don't think it had a "negative effect on his mindset." If anything, of the young crew, he was the most consistent in terms of effort and attitude. He's been a great trooper in that sense, and hearing that he's amenable to a 6th man role if a better option joins the Lakers also shows that. |
I mean the tunnel vision thing. He was clearly trying to score when he had the ball and we know from the previous season he is an able distributor. He is not really a "passing savant", but his AST totals and AST/TO ratio were pretty decent. |
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lukewaltonsdad
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| pio2u wrote: | | Quote: | There were 56 players who attempted at least 80 pull-up threes last season. Clarkson made 35.2 percent of his 108 tries.
His volume was lower on a per-game average, but, for the optimistic, this technically made him more accurate than Damian Lillard, Chris Paul and James Harden while holding his own compared to Klay Thompson and Bradley Beal. |
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2643174-jordan-clarkson-is-ready-for-the-biggest-offseason-of-his-life |
That's great to hear and very promising for the system Luke plans to implement next season. |
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LakersRGolden
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Dave20 wrote: | | Playing off the ball was beneficial for him, but he's at his best with the ball breaking down the defense in P&R. |
But when is the team the best? That's the answer that matters the most. |
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